I would rather watch it on twitch honestly it's just easier imo  

Posted by Zetectic

aguzo u should go to era or something. i don't see classic doing that for next 5 years.

he wants real graal pvp, not that era gun ****  

Posted by Zetectic

just gonna drop a era gst link

aguzo u should go to era or something.

That's more defensive than every idev finals combined.

Posted by Crono

he wants real graal pvp, not that era gun ****

A real man's game, not 2D counter strike.  

Wow sparring on era is actual garbage. Props to the guy who managed to commentate that for 7 hours lmao.  

that commentary is actually great, wish someone competent enough had done it for iclassic gsts  

that tournament looks like boring, defensive trash but at least they have a real commentator  

Tentative plan: I would be willing to stream the GST unless something comes up. Unfortunately, I could only spectate one toom at a time and there would be no commentary as I don't have a mic connected to my PC (and my commentary would probably be terrible anyways).  

Posted by Imprint

Tentative plan: I would be willing to stream the GST unless something comes up. Unfortunately, I could only spectate one toom at a time and there would be no commentary as I don't have a mic connected to my PC (and my commentary would probably be terrible anyways).

Took the shot as quickly as I could (Reason for blurriness). My cpu was going 100%, after I added the 4th graal screen. I didn't want to damage anything, cause I accidentally ripped a capacitor a while ago.

If you have a better cpu than an x4 860k, then yeah, you can get 4 screens, and maybe add a scoreboard or comments of the stream at the bottom. Maybe an i3 6100, more than likely an i5 6500 could handle that many graals running at the same time. I'm guessing there is no dev tool on graal that let's you monitor multiple areas at once?



4 screens looks terrible either way, image is too small to enjoy watching the match. I mostly just wanted to see if it could be done. If you do decide to stream, it's better with a single full-screen.

What you could do is after the tourney gets down to 4 teams, then devs could slow it down a bit, so you can stream each of those matches. Before that, I guess the chat could decide on which matches they want to watch.  

I could probably run like 20 Graal's tf

Posted by Aguzo

4 screens looks terrible either way, image is too small to enjoy watching the match. I mostly just wanted to see if it could be done. If you do decide to stream, it's better with a single full-screen.

What you could do is after the tourney gets down to 4 teams, then devs could slow it down a bit, so you can stream each of those matches. Before that, I guess the chat could decide on which matches they want to watch.

If you have a browser that lets you seperate the graal client into its own window, you can make it a lot more efficient for streaming, combined with a higher reso, you could achieve 8+ windows per screen if your computer can handle it. Mock-up shown below, I kept the browser zoom at my normal 90% for the initial screenshot, although it looks like regular zoom could also fit 8 clients on one 2560x1440 screen.

 

Posted by Zideruic

I could probably run like 20 Graal's tf



If you have a browser that lets you seperate the graal client into its own window, you can make it a lot more efficient for streaming, combined with a higher reso, you could achieve 8+ windows per screen if your computer can handle it. Mock-up shown below, I kept the browser zoom at my normal 90% for the initial screenshot, although it looks like regular zoom could also fit 8 clients on one 2560x1440 screen.

Yeah this is exactly how I would do it too, when I record this is what I do with 2 accounts so I get every match.

The hard part is idling and being disconnected because you have to remember to move every 10 minutes or so on each account which can be an absolute pain. I actually didn't record 1 match last season because I didn't realize one of my accounts was disconnected.

I also believe there is a way to cut up 1 account into sub regions that would be placed individually in the stream so you don't have the browser border included.

Edit: Here is how you can accomplish multiple sub regions so you can capture up to 2 (or more depending on your resolution) matches per account without having the browser border being included:

So then you could customize it however you want (quick mockup below):
 

Posted by Zideruic

Mock-up shown below, I kept the browser zoom at my normal 90% for the initial screenshot, although it looks like regular zoom could also fit 8 clients on one 2560x1440 screen.

****ing privileged 1440p asshole u better watch urself around us 1080 plebs  

Wow nice guys, thanks james, I didn't know how to find that video. I kept searching for "multiple windows" and "how to have multiple full-screen windows." Although I did try sub-regions, but it didn't work.

Wait, did you both 6 graals running while having the preview shown on obs? Most of the cpu usage was the fact that it was encoding.

I'll test it out on maxthon.  

Posted by Aguzo

Wow nice guys, thanks james, I didn't know how to find that video. I kept searching for "multiple windows" and "how to have multiple full-screen windows." Although I did try sub-regions, but it didn't work.

Wait, did you both 6 graals running while having the preview shown on obs? Most of the cpu usage was the fact that it was encoding.

I'll test it out on maxthon.

Mine was just a patched together example i did in paint.

Also, I think james and I have better pc's than you, FM2+ chipset was kind of a budget pc style  

Posted by Aguzo

Wait, did you both 6 graals running while having the preview shown on obs? Most of the cpu usage was the fact that it was encoding.

I'll test it out on maxthon.

Technically you wouldn't need 6 graals open depending on your resolution. There are a couple tricks to maybe accomplish it with just using 2 or maybe 1 account. I can test some stuff this weekend.

Basically if you have a huge resolution you could technically zoom out (depending on the browser to do this right, opera generally has the best results for zooming unless you are using a mac) then increase the flash window size which could allow you to see most of the GST rooms. Probably could be accomplished with 2 accounts if you have a high resolution.

If you are stuck with 1080p resolution then you technically would need 3 accounts. When I record I use 2 different PC's for that all together so I am not lagging on my main account and can spar/interact without having to worry about interrupting the recording. For streaming I think you could accomplish all of this on 1 PC but it would have to be a very specific setup and again you would have to take into account the idling/disconnect issue (probably could create some macro to prevent this... but that's technically against the rules )

How I would do it:
- 3 accounts on, each one looking at 1 row of arenas (so 2 each account)
- OBS multi sub region and crop each match and organize your window structure in OBS and what would stream

#2 How I would do it:
- 2 accounts on, zoomed out browser, increased flash window size to see more on 1 account. 1 account would see 4 arenas and other would see final 2 (or however many remain)
- OBS multi sub region and crop each match and organize your window structure in OBS and what would stream

I'll do some testing on it this weekend, maybe try to stream all the belle/pub/streak arenas as just a test and see the easiest setup. If you have more than 1 PC then it will be way easier for you and overall better viewing experience for visitors...  

Thanks guys, so I enabled nvidia nvenc in the encoding settings. That way it used the gpu, instead of the cpu. I only did 4, cause I didn't feel like opening more browsers, but at least this time things were running fast, while encoding. Maybe devs have a setting where they don't get d/c for idling? Otherwise you would have to move the screen a bit every 5 mins or so.

Note: You have to disable hardware acceleration in order for the image to show up on obs.