Posted by Rexx

they have an advantage and its fairly obvious.

Explain this advantage.  

Posted by iPoptart

Explain this advantage.

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There advantage is clearly obvious, just spar a few. A very simple solution: Add one or two spar rooms in battle arena iPhone players only. Than one or two Pc players only. Than one that has both and than the tournament spar which has both. This would make everyone happy and the many old sparrers that stopped due to pcers would probably come back.  

Posted by Rexx

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I was hoping you would have some crazy secret unmentioned advantage  

Just make one of the smaller arenas iPhone only, simple and everyone is happy.  

All I'm seeing is "Boo hoo Thay do to have an advantage clearly cause I'm getting owned".  

Posted by Gambit Drakul

All I'm seeing is "Boo hoo Thay do to have an advantage clearly cause I'm getting owned".

But they do have an advantage. Not sure why this is being debated, in fact the advantage was so obvious that Stefan gave iPhone players a speed boost to compensate(not sure if this still applies). Physical controls are superior to touch-screen controls, this goes beyond the matter of Graal and into gaming in general; it's simply more responsive. Also strafing has been mentioned as well.  

Posted by GotenGraal

Lol how can you say pc have the disadvantage? YOU NEVER SAW 10:1 RATIOS EVER BEFORE PCERS CAME. When you spar a pc on iphone you will notice sometimes you swing your sword and they walk right through it no dmg being done. I spar both iphone and pcers I notice a huge different in difficulty when sparring a pc. And no not cause They've been pc players for 10 years lol. Every pc player, even new ones I struggle against, and most iphone sparrers who have been here before pc was added would agree with this.

This^^^^^ its so true, its not them lagging either but when sparring a pc ive had them get hit with no dmg.

Posted by Gambit Drakul

All I'm seeing is "Boo hoo Thay do to have an advantage clearly cause I'm getting owned".

Look who uses a pc.  

Posted by spades of feare

Look who uses a pc.

Thanks for pointing that out captain obvious I'm pretty sure everyone knows I use a PC I have been since 05 on the original server and I also do on iPhone.  

i think a pc only and a iphone only room should be made, and keep one as mixed. so you can choose.  

Posted by Higbey

i think a pc only and a iphone only room should be made, and keep one as mixed. so you can choose.

pc only would always be empty, they know they have an advantage and like to beat down on kids playing on slow ipods, so they can boost their records.  

Posted by Rexx

pc only would always be empty, they know they have an advantage and like to beat down on kids playing on slow ipods, so they can boost their records.

well if you play in the mixed spar you take that risk, if you dont want that risk, go in the iphone only spar.  

Yeah Rexx is right I see now, if there was a pc spar room only pcers would actually get accurate records but they don't want that, they want to have 10:1 ratios. When I look at a spar that high and know that person uses pc, I don't think "Wow, he's pretty good" I think, "Another pc nub who thinks he's actually good".  

Posted by GotenGraal

Yeah Rexx is right I see now, if there was a pc spar room only pcers would actually get accurate records but they don't want that, they want to have 10:1 ratios. When I look at a spar that high and know that person uses pc, I don't think "Wow, he's pretty good" I think, "Another pc nub who thinks he's actually good".

or a iphoner who is really good.  

^Only should be finally lol. and Higbey I can tell if someone uses pc most of the time, it's not hard and has nothing to do with skill. Once they walk through a few hits and hit me somehow through a far distance you know it's a pc lol.