Posted by NCJohn

Yeah but a lot of the quests ared coded in gs1 and would need to be updates. Also it's not as simple as simply copying the code and pasting it onto an iOS server. The are a lot more variables and what not that would have to be taken into account (i.e. the much larger player count).

Why did they have to make graal its own coding system?  

Posted by Bin

Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.

I CAN USE BIGGER WORDS THAN YOU TO REENFORCE MY STATEMENTS!

 

Posted by Bin

Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.

Can't believe you're that idiotic.  

Posted by Bin

Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CALLING DUSTY A JOKE IS A JOKE IN ITSELF YOU MORON. DEVELOPERS AREN'T PAYED AND RESCRIPTING TAKES TIME + SKILL. ICLASSIC HAS BEEN DOING FINE CONSIDERING IT HAS 0 CONTENT.

Obnoxious ****head.  

Posted by Crono

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CALLING DUSTY A JOKE IS A JOKE IN ITSELF YOU MORON. DEVELOPERS AREN'T PAYED AND RESCRIPTING TAKES TIME + SKILL. ICLASSIC HAS BEEN DOING FINE CONSIDERING IT HAS 0 CONTENT.

Obnoxious ****head.

Stop with the "staff isn't paid crap". It's volunteer work if you're going to be a lazy and just use excuses than don't volunteer for the job... You volunteered for it, noone forced you to take the job.  

Posted by Bin

Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

[compensating]It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.[/compensating]

I'll humor myself and respond to this.

The fact that versions of the gnome quest has existed at once point or another in the past has absolutely no bearing on whether it should exist now. Also, you assume it would even be worth rescripting and porting over.

You seemed to have failed to grasp that the current iClassic is not tailored at all towards questing. There are no questing items, there are no quests, and the overworld is not designed for progression. Hell, there aren't even any hp/damage powerups. Adding a single quest changes all of that.

Then there's also the question as to whether or not adding this quest would even have much benefit. They're one-time things. People do the quest once and then it's never revisited again. This is further compacted with the above points taken into consideration where there's no reason to backtrack and explore with new items. To overhaul the entire server to be more quest-oriented would be way more than a "few weeks" of scripting. I mean, have you even played the quests? You see a few screenshots and you assume it's decent content, and I hate to burst your bubble but most of the quests from old Classic quests were pretty damn bad.

Now, all of this is coming from someone who is a huge supporter of not only questing, but designing quests. iClassic has taken a step back and realized that in the end what made all variations of Classic in the past replayable were not quests and content, but in fact the social aspect, pk/sparring, and item collecting. These are what players always came back for. Most of the time you end up with a ****load of stuff in your inventory from all the various quests and you never even use it. Also take into consideration how much more time it takes to not only develop quests, but to design them. It's a very time-consuming process with very little payout. On the other hand focusing on aspects that provide more replayability, like the aforementioned social stuff, takes much less effort and gives players more "bang for their buck."

Posted by GotenGraal

Stop with the "staff isn't paid crap". It's volunteer work if you're going to be a lazy and just use excuses than don't volunteer for the job... You volunteered for it, noone forced you to take the job.

No, but I don't see you working and spending your time helping out? Regardless of whether it's a choice or not doesn't change the fact that it's time spent helping thankless, inconsiderate people who do nothing but whine even when they're given what they want. People don't need to put up with the **** players like Bin dish out but they do it anyways, and they do it on their own time. The point is to shut the **** up and be thankful anything gets done because if it weren't for these volunteers you players would be getting absolutely jack ****.  

Don't ever think iClassic will be like Classic PC or original Classic. They're in way too deep to rewrite systems and prepare the overworld for questing. Stephane Portha and Xor don't give single **** about quests, all they care about is you staying on the game and making them money. They know if something big was to be added we'd enjoy it and then be the same begging assholes and say more stuff needs to be added. If one quest was added then hundreds more would have to follow up. People like Dusty and Rufus who have truly love the game will try their best to make the expierence somewhat better for us without XOR getting angry that money is too easy to get or prices are too low.  

Posted by Seeker99

Don't ever think iClassic will be like Classic PC or original Classic. They're in way too deep to rewrite systems and prepare the overworld for questing. Stephane Portha and Xor don't give single **** about quests, all they care about is you staying on the game and making them money. They know if something big was to be added we'd enjoy it and then be the same begging assholes and say more stuff needs to be added. If one quest was added then hundreds more would have to follow up. People like Dusty and Rufus who have truly love the game will try their best to make the expierence somewhat better for us without XOR getting angry that money is too easy to get or prices are too low.

Uh I think you mean Unixmad not Xor  

Unixmad and Xor both get money and are both assholes.  

Posted by iHot

In the bank a book says that gnomes collected tears.

Anybody tried crying somewhere near the gnomes yet?  

Posted by 123tepig

Anybody tried crying somewhere near the gnomes yet?

By tears they mean tears of Hera which are dropped down by the Gods of Graal when they take pity on a graalian who needs help.  

Posted by 123tepig

Anybody tried crying somewhere near the gnomes yet?

Specific types of tears, they can be sold for high amounts of money and are VERY rare.  

Pachuka, the legendary one of mischief, played a venomously harsh trick (involving mortals being slaughtered) on Hera (legendary one of life and emotions) and made her run away crying, feeling empathy for the poor mortals and their fragile limited life, her tears plummeted to the ground, turning into strange gems as they sparkled in the sunlight....

translation for the less intelligent: "daamn Pachuka, yo bitchslapped dat ho Hera so hard her tears turned ta bling-bling!"  

Don't you find those tears on classic PC?
Classic PC makes me sad on how much us iOS players are missing out on.  

Posted by Dusty

I'll humor myself and respond to this.

The fact that versions of the gnome quest has existed at once point or another in the past has absolutely no bearing on whether it should exist now. Also, you assume it would even be worth rescripting and porting over.

You seemed to have failed to grasp that the current iClassic is not tailored at all towards questing. There are no questing items, there are no quests, and the overworld is not designed for progression. Hell, there aren't even any hp/damage powerups. Adding a single quest changes all of that.

Then there's also the question as to whether or not adding this quest would even have much benefit. They're one-time things. People do the quest once and then it's never revisited again. This is further compacted with the above points taken into consideration where there's no reason to backtrack and explore with new items. To overhaul the entire server to be more quest-oriented would be way more than a "few weeks" of scripting. I mean, have you even played the quests? You see a few screenshots and you assume it's decent content, and I hate to burst your bubble but most of the quests from old Classic quests were pretty damn bad.

Now, all of this is coming from someone who is a huge supporter of not only questing, but designing quests. iClassic has taken a step back and realized that in the end what made all variations of Classic in the past replayable were not quests and content, but in fact the social aspect, pk/sparring, and item collecting. These are what players always came back for. Most of the time you end up with a ****load of stuff in your inventory from all the various quests and you never even use it. Also take into consideration how much more time it takes to not only develop quests, but to design them. It's a very time-consuming process with very little payout. On the other hand focusing on aspects that provide more replayability, like the aforementioned social stuff, takes much less effort and gives players more "bang for their buck."


No, but I don't see you working and spending your time helping out? Regardless of whether it's a choice or not doesn't change the fact that it's time spent helping thankless, inconsiderate people who do nothing but whine even when they're given what they want. People don't need to put up with the **** players like Bin dish out but they do it anyways, and they do it on their own time. The point is to shut the **** up and be thankful anything gets done because if it weren't for these volunteers you players would be getting absolutely jack ****.

I'll humor myself by not reading your ridiculously lengthy response (seriously, go do some actual work instead) and assume you meant to say "staff are lazy asses who will write five paragraphs on a message board filled with excuses for not doing work instead of actually doing the work."

Work on solutions, not excuses.