Funny/Cringey Moments/Statuses/Guild News - 210

Striken · 02-10-2017

Posted by David

she wasn't innocent.

My post wasn't directed towards her, just in general.

David · 02-10-2017

If GPs gave 1/10000000 of a crap about what happens in battle arena they would have known a long time ago. You're just proving to me that battle arena is not a well patrolled area of iClassic. Because people with 0-0 stats don't care about what happens there, naturally.

Also the fact that carly (or any equivalent speeder/booster) is capable of outsmarting any GP is a joke. She did it in front of literally every person in the arena.

Striken · 02-10-2017

Posted by David

If GPs gave 1/10000000 of a crap about what happens in battle arena they would have known a long time ago. You're just proving to me that battle arena is not a well patrolled area of iClassic. Because people with 0-0 stats don't care about what happens there, naturally.

Also the fact that carly (or any equivalent speeder/booster) is capable of outsmarting any GP is a joke. She did it in front of literally every person in the arena.

Don't tell me the arena isn't patrolled when I did get banned within 5 seconds of inappropiate behavior.

David · 02-10-2017

Don't tell me the arena is patrolled when it's plagued with speed and health hackers every other day?

Striken · 02-10-2017

Did I say it was 24/7? Keep at it bud, I like a flame war.

David · 02-10-2017

"Let's deviate from the actual topic so that I look like I have an idea when I got nothin"

That isn't how you have a normal discussion you baboon

was fungg

Dusty · 02-10-2017

Posted by David

If GPs gave 1/10000000 of a crap about what happens in battle arena they would have known a long time ago. You're just proving to me that battle arena is not a well patrolled area of iClassic. Because people with 0-0 stats don't care about what happens there, naturally.

Also the fact that carly (or any equivalent speeder/booster) is capable of outsmarting any GP is a joke. She did it in front of literally every person in the arena.

It's almost like reviewing chat logs for dealing with incidents is a lot easier than analyzing every single report about "speed hackers." Do you know how many people report others for hacking just because they lose? And when that happens you have to sit there for minutes on end waiting for them to slip up again. And that's only if it's an obvious hacker. Its the subtle ones that make it hard to detect and that takes even longer and in the end they need to decide if that person is moving juuuuust slightly faster than others for a minor advantage. With no hard evidence to back it up.

Oh, and then if they do get banned they just come back in a few minutes on a fresh account and do this for hours until they get bored. Meanwhile someone gets reported for something they say and it takes a few minutes to check their chat and see if they actually said it. Easy!

And guess who she didn't do it in front of? GPs, the only people who matter when it comes to witnessing! It doesn't matter if she got reported 50 times in an hour, that's not evidence. People file false reports all the time and sometimes they even organize their friends to all report people to try to get them in trouble.

Sorry, but hacking is the most difficult thing to deal with. The only way to truly detect is either obvious hacking(moving insanely fast or not losing health), or having the numbers to back it up. Hackers have learned that keeping their speed boost subtle and within the margin of error of detection tools keeps them safe. Or to do so sparingly so they lessen their chance of getting caught.

The fact that she was caught is proof they handle it when there is actual proof.

Raeven · 02-10-2017

Posted by Galen Verge

Just means that you aren't passionate about swinging your sword at things for hours. I have a 0-15 spar ratio but I'm a lead in the 6th best GS guild seasonally Just be cause you don't like one thing doesn't mean you suck.

lol

David · 02-10-2017

http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...8&postcount=88
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=99
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=121
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=104
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=18
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=58
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=62
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=75

and a whole lot more (a ton of it in-game), all about her cheating. When people from different guilds, social circles, activities all agree on one thing it usually means they're on to something. The fact that it took as long as it did is a joke (sorry can't think of a better word) and it only proves that admins are not in touch with the battle arena.

GPs are allowed to go invisible whenever they want, can't they? They should be able to catch these speeders/boosters veeeeeery easily with that. If they don't then it becomes a problem with activity and/or their lack of interest in patrolling the battle arena in general. Obviously they aren't going to PM GPs "hey come watch me cheat!", so it's important to hire at least some people who know sparring/pking well enough to catch this kind of stuff when it's happening. I've seen multiple health and speed hackers frequent the arena night after night doing this on the same account they were on the night before.

I'd also like to add that Sarah's video of carly boosting has been up since November.

Skyzer · 02-10-2017

Posted by David

dumb ****

You sure ****ing love bitching.

Dusty · 02-10-2017

Posted by David

http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...8&postcount=88
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=99
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=121
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=104
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=18
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=58
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=62
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=75

and a whole lot more (a ton of it in-game), all about her cheating. When people from different guilds, social circles, activities all agree on one thing it usually means they're on to something. The fact that it took as long as it did is a joke (sorry can't think of a better word) and it only proves that admins are not in touch with the battle arena.

GPs are allowed to go invisible whenever they want, can't they? They should be able to catch these speeders/boosters veeeeeery easily with that. If they don't then it becomes a problem with activity and/or their lack of interest in patrolling the battle arena in general. Obviously they aren't going to PM GPs "hey come watch me cheat!", so it's important to hire at least some people who know sparring/pking well enough to catch this kind of stuff when it's happening. I've seen multiple health and speed hackers frequent the arena night after night doing this on the same account they were on the night before.

I'd also like to add that Sarah's video of carly boosting has been up since November.

Staff aren't just going to sit in Battle Arena all day waiting for hackers. Like I said, it's a lot easier to respond to other reports which just involve looking at chat then to sit and analyze spar movement. And also like I said, hiring "experienced" sparrers won't make a difference either because them feeling like the person is moving slightly faster isn't proof! Even someone being flagged for boosting by the system isn't proof enough to ban them without seeing it first hand.

The problem with videos is that there is no way for the staff to verify who the people in the video are. Again, I need to reiterate a bunch of people complaining isn't proof. It doesn't matter if they all come from different walks in life and are coming together to complain... it's not proof.

David · 02-10-2017

I wouldn't consider people voicing their displeasure over someone running rampant for 2 years speeding and boosting "complaining" but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Not saying that anyone should sit in the battle arena and do nothing but wait for hackers to come on but there has to be a healthy balance between that and never being active enough in the battle arena to see people who constantly do it for long periods of time.

Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this entirely cause I wholeheartedly believe that when whittled down this comes down to a GPs general interest in sparring and pking as activities.

Colin · 02-10-2017

May seem like complaining but more so voicing active concerns

For people involved with the spar community and who have been for years it just really sucks to see people like Carly ruin it and get away with it I understand the need for proof but almost everyone in the spar community knew what she was doing

- account isn't even hers, belongs to a player named Luvious
- videos that show her swinging and moving faster
- boosting video has 'Carly (TEAM BEER)' queing up against an alt account that instantly logs to give her a free win several times, when it stopped and the account logged out another account named "Carly" with Canadian flag logins right after
- PM'd a 14/15 year old girl where she lives and goes to school and threatened to DOX her if she didn't leave a guild, had 100% proof but was told it's okay because she didn't actually do it just threatened it (wtf????)

I understand the issue with mass reporting, but when people are capturing videos, pictures, and several forms of proof and constantly discussing it I think it's obvious they are actually doing something they shouldn't

The situation is just different depending on which perspective you come from, she ruined the main focus of a lot of peoples game play as well as other hackers because it's something they can easily get away with it seems

TeK · 02-10-2017

Where the Graal court system @

Bryan* · 02-10-2017

If it took so long, you guys are either too incompetent or ignorant to verify things in any format of evidence.

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David of Orange Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 826	If GPs gave 1/10000000 of a crap about what happens in battle arena they would have known a long time ago. You're just proving to me that battle arena is not a well patrolled area of iClassic. Because people with 0-0 stats don't care about what happens there, naturally. Also the fact that carly (or any equivalent speeder/booster) is capable of outsmarting any GP is a joke. She did it in front of literally every person in the arena.

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David of Orange Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 826	Don't tell me the arena is patrolled when it's plagued with speed and health hackers every other day?

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Striken Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,180	Did I say it was 24/7? Keep at it bud, I like a flame war.

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David of Orange Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 826	"Let's deviate from the actual topic so that I look like I have an idea when I got nothin" That isn't how you have a normal discussion you baboon was fungg

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David of Orange Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 826	http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...8&postcount=88 http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=99 http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=121 http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=104 http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=18 http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=58 http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=62 http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=75 and a whole lot more (a ton of it in-game), all about her cheating. When people from different guilds, social circles, activities all agree on one thing it usually means they're on to something. The fact that it took as long as it did is a joke (sorry can't think of a better word) and it only proves that admins are not in touch with the battle arena. GPs are allowed to go invisible whenever they want, can't they? They should be able to catch these speeders/boosters veeeeeery easily with that. If they don't then it becomes a problem with activity and/or their lack of interest in patrolling the battle arena in general. Obviously they aren't going to PM GPs "hey come watch me cheat!", so it's important to hire at least some people who know sparring/pking well enough to catch this kind of stuff when it's happening. I've seen multiple health and speed hackers frequent the arena night after night doing this on the same account they were on the night before. I'd also like to add that Sarah's video of carly boosting has been up since November.

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David of Orange Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 826	I wouldn't consider people voicing their displeasure over someone running rampant for 2 years speeding and boosting "complaining" but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Not saying that anyone should sit in the battle arena and do nothing but wait for hackers to come on but there has to be a healthy balance between that and never being active enough in the battle arena to see people who constantly do it for long periods of time. Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this entirely cause I wholeheartedly believe that when whittled down this comes down to a GPs general interest in sparring and pking as activities.

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Colin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,204	May seem like complaining but more so voicing active concerns For people involved with the spar community and who have been for years it just really sucks to see people like Carly ruin it and get away with it I understand the need for proof but almost everyone in the spar community knew what she was doing - account isn't even hers, belongs to a player named Luvious - videos that show her swinging and moving faster - boosting video has 'Carly (TEAM BEER)' queing up against an alt account that instantly logs to give her a free win several times, when it stopped and the account logged out another account named "Carly" with Canadian flag logins right after - PM'd a 14/15 year old girl where she lives and goes to school and threatened to DOX her if she didn't leave a guild, had 100% proof but was told it's okay because she didn't actually do it just threatened it (wtf????) I understand the issue with mass reporting, but when people are capturing videos, pictures, and several forms of proof and constantly discussing it I think it's obvious they are actually doing something they shouldn't The situation is just different depending on which perspective you come from, she ruined the main focus of a lot of peoples game play as well as other hackers because it's something they can easily get away with it seems

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TeK ClanDestine Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 953	Where the Graal court system @

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Bryan* Verified ✔️ Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: M.I.A Posts: 3,408	If it took so long, you guys are either too incompetent or ignorant to verify things in any format of evidence.