"The Force Awakens the Last Jedi" maybe there will be new jedi/s introduced

Or you know, just Luke's paper in the trilogy:

 

Posted by Caferino

"The Force Awakens the Last Jedi" maybe there will be new jedi/s introduced

Or you know, just Luke's paper in the trilogy:

I always thought that Luke would have a larger role in Episode 8. Maybe the title 'The Last Jedi' means reflects that?  

Posted by Snow7

I always thought that Luke would have a larger role in Episode 8. Maybe the title 'The Last Jedi' means reflects that?

It's the last Jedi because he will literally be the last 'Jedi'.

The first 6 starwars movies were about the Jedi and the Sith who are the 2 polar extreme opposites of each other.
The new starwars will focus on the inbetween. Luke probably found out after defeating the sith and still being betrayed that there is no better side and so he will be the last jedi and Rey/ whoever else will something new so neither Jedi or Sith. (same has already happened with Kylo Ren and the first Order, he isn't a Sith and neither is Snoke but has been trained in the light and darkside so he is basically both.)
Doesn't mean there will be no more lightsaber wielding good guys, they just won't explicitly follow the Jedi code or whatever anymore.  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

It's the last Jedi because he will literally be the last 'Jedi'.

The first 6 starwars movies were about the Jedi and the Sith who are the 2 polar extreme opposites of each other.
The new starwars will focus on the inbetween. Luke probably found out after defeating the sith and still being betrayed that there is no better side and so he will be the last jedi and Rey/ whoever else will something new so neither Jedi or Sith. (same has already happened with Kylo Ren and the first Order, he isn't a Sith and neither is Snoke but has been trained in the light and darkside so he is basically both.)
Doesn't mean there will be no more lightsaber wielding good guys, they just won't explicitly follow the Jedi code or whatever anymore.

I never really thought of it that way. It definitely sounds like an interesting theory they might follow along with. I do remember watching a theory about how Luke was slowly 'turning to the Dark side' throughout Episode V and VI. There was also the temptation for him to join the Darkside in Episode VI and even lashing out at Darth Vader so it would fit pretty well with him experiencing both sides. If they do follow along with a Grey Jedi plot, I think that would be pretty cool - especially with the new set of characters since it hasn't been explored in the movies.  

You might be right but as far as I remember, maybe I am wrong but doesn't joining the dark side corrupt you? Like, the force feels stronger in the dark side, it consumes the user and the user has access to abilities that jedis don't. So I don't know, maybe users will always have to decide between one, also heard that grey jedis need extreme focus and balance, therefor their rareness.  

I don't think Luke realized that both sides are equivalent in terms of potential evil-ness, rather, he realized that people can change. Anakin made the decision to join the dark side, and he can make the decision to leave it. You aren't "born" into it; it isn't innate. I believe that's the subject out of the entire Star Wars series.  

Posted by Caferino

You might be right but as far as I remember, maybe I am wrong but doesn't joining the dark side corrupt you? Like, the force feels stronger in the dark side, it consumes the user and the user has access to abilities that jedis don't. So I don't know, maybe users will always have to decide between one, also heard that grey jedis need extreme focus and balance, therefor their rareness.

I suppose it's how far to the darkside you've gone. Technically, anyone can be redeemed, take Darth Vader as an example. It wasn't until the very end he redeemed himself. Grey Jedi are typically people who have had experiences with both sides of the force and typically don't align themselves. It's more about them doing what they feel is right and for the good of others where typically their respective 'side' doesn't go out of their way to help. That's why some people considered Qui-Gon Jinn a Grey Jedi since he didn't support the council's decisions as he felt they weren't looking at the bigger picture (Though that didn't turn out too well..)

Posted by TWIZ

I don't think Luke realized that both sides are equivalent in terms of potential evil-ness, rather, he realized that people can change. Anakin made the decision to join the dark side, and he can make the decision to leave it. You aren't "born" into it; it isn't innate. I believe that's the subject out of the entire Star Wars series.

I do like this approach on Star Wars and it would be pretty cool if they do push forward with this idea. I've seen some interviews and I do recall the actor who plays Kylo Ren, Adam Driver, talking about how they wanted to push the story in a way that makes the Order have some justification for the events that happened in Force Awakens. It would be interesting for Kylo Ren to go through a story arc where he sees what he's done and comes to the realisation of his wrong doing, I'm hoping that's how it plays out - would have really liked for him to have met his mother in the end but... yeah..  

In other news, I got the xbox 360 R2D2 version this weekend:

 

Didn't the empire die?  

Posted by Harriskar

Didn't the empire die?

Not really  

Posted by Guri

In other news, I got the xbox 360 R2D2 version this weekend:

That actually looks pretty cool!

Posted by Harriskar

Didn't the empire die?

Posted by TWIZ

Not really

Technically they did in Episode VI, the new 'Empire' in The Force Awakens is the First Order. After the rebels succeeded, I'd assume they'd be the New Republic but for some reason they're now known as The Resistance?..  

Posted by Caferino

You might be right but as far as I remember, maybe I am wrong but doesn't joining the dark side corrupt you? Like, the force feels stronger in the dark side, it consumes the user and the user has access to abilities that jedis don't. So I don't know, maybe users will always have to decide between one, also heard that grey jedis need extreme focus and balance, therefor their rareness.

Not always, there are positives and negatives. Sith gain more power faster but Jedi over a long period of time can be just as strong/ stronger.
Look at Count Dooku, he was a Sith but wasn't really corrupt. He more just changed sides because he had a different political view.

He wasn't really 'evil' like the others and didn't even have the sith eyes.

Posted by Harriskar

Didn't the empire die?

Pretty much. I'm sure the new order has some members from the Empire but the new order isn't the old empire as that was pretty much built on the Emperor who is dead.

But yea you can definitely see the Grey Jedi thing is what Disney is going to do. Before Disney took over grey jedi didn't exist/ weren't acknowledged (at least in anything directed by George Lucas) as he didn't want people to see the possibility of what's in the middle as he just wanted the two sides to be complete opposites of each other.

Recently after Disney bought the rights and rebooted the franchise you can see in the starwars rebels cartoons that out of nowhere they have introduced the inbetween possibility. Asohka has two grey lightsabers, being the first time the official franchise has accepted the existence of Grey Jedi, and in one of the episodes the Kanan character meets a force creature who didn't see the light side and darkside as good or bad, it just depended on how the information was used and that he was neither.
Like I said in a previous post, the new movies use a lot of foresight, and like to show glimpses/ plant seeds of what is to come. They've used and officially stated that they want/will be using parts of the cartoons in the movies.


I'm fairly confident Rey will be getting a doublesided lightsaber, I mean she uses a staff and the staff itself kind of looks like a lightsaber (some people have speculated that it's made of lightsaber parts). Whether it actually is a lightsaber I doubt but could be, but what I think is going to happen is she will turn her staff into one, and use the part of the staff as the lightsaber. I think it'd be pretty cool if going off the grey jedi thing that she's given a white/ grey lightsaber, or at least something new, maybe orange. At this point i'm over seeing blue and green lightsabers.
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Both "sith" and Jedi are "force-sensitive", the only thing that defines and contrasts the two is their philosophy on what the Force is and how one should use it.

In the now non-canon EU books Luke becomes a sith temporarily and returns to the light side with a deeper understanding that helps him become a better jedi so it is possible to walk the line but not many characters can do it successfully.

As for powers, Jedi can heal others much more effectively than sith, sith requires further use of bacta tanks and traditional medicine because their philosophy of the force is not compatible with rejuvenation, but the sith have stronger "strength" with the force in that they can move heavier objects and cast force lightning.

The Empire wasn't destroyed at the end of the Return of the Jedi, they only cut the head off the snake. There are/were still Grand Admirals and star destroyers running around and vying for control of imperial forces etc.  

Posted by Snow7

Technically they did in Episode VI, the new 'Empire' in The Force Awakens is the First Order. After the rebels succeeded, I'd assume they'd be the New Republic but for some reason they're now known as The Resistance?..

I never really understood the resistance thing, it's such a cheesy name imo. They should have, like you said, went with something like the New Republic.  

Posted by Skyzer

Wielding a lightsaber does not make Rey a Jedi.


Also, she's the reincarnation of Anakin Skywalker.

The thing about them crazy skywalkers is theyre known the have temper issues, they want you to believe she's a Skywalker, but Rey is calm, and she used the jedi mind trick, who else can do this? Obi wan Kenobi. Ovo