Towering's Dead. - 3

Sky VS · 08-18-2017

York town is cool but it's getting old I think Admins will Update it soon

Zorma Knight · 08-18-2017

Heres a idea: Stop playing Graal on September cuz there prob to be nothing new, except new hats at destiny or other shops, and the go back to play at October for graaloween event :L

Reemas · 08-18-2017

Posted by Zorma Knight

Heres a idea: Stop playing Graal on September cuz there prob to be nothing new, except new hats at destiny or other shops, and the go back to play at October for graaloween event :L

How about enjoy the new items that you just bought? Thats an idea. Thats new. Its fresh. I dont see a need for something new every day just to keep coming back to play.

deadowl · 09-06-2017

Why not change it to something similar to my implementation from like 10 years ago where you have to hold for two minutes to gain a guild win and a single slash brings about a new flag-holder? That US vs. Ventrue battle when I first implemented it was intense af.

Rusix · 09-06-2017

Towering kinda is more then dead. It's an unflavored and undesired sport in graal now. Graal removed the one thing that made many more players than there is now to do it. Though one could argue people still enjoy it, which yes of course people will enjoy towering regardless, especially if your from Maphasy or other tower guilds. It's just your thing.

Towering now is extremely out of balance. There is no longer a single reward or anything at all for towering regardless of how much you end up doing so as far as my knowledge is since they removed hats about a year or two ago.

Along with the disappearance within the years towers in York, Castle, Snowtown.ect players are now forced to take over towers that was once Their friendly tower neighbor. Forcing fiercer competition and even killing competition among guilds who are no longer able to tower or even be unsuccessful at towering after a point in time, which also made it impossible for newer rising tower guilds to compete with the more fierce competiting tower guilds during the times when tower guilds was starting to disappear more and more.

As a result of all these incidents,towering has became most likely the most unpracticed activitiy in graal than it ever was in recent years, with new tower guilds rarely appearing leaving only the older guilds to rule over that tower for however long they feel like it.

So after all these slam attack of incidents, what are we led with? An extremely unflavored activitiy in Graal. One which not even new guilds are appearing into anymore to do. And if they do it is seemingly extremely rare.

Compared to the other most known activity in graal, Sparring. Towering has become very unbalanced when compared to it. In sparring you could spar enough to get your name written in a book for 40k ect. Or get good enough to attend a GST which give you the mystery gift for 2500.

But towering now anyway. There is absolutely no reward. Nothing to even motivate or pull newer players to attend the activity.

WaFFL3Cake · 09-06-2017

Towering isn't dead; you're dead.

McCullough · 09-06-2017

This is less about the guild system but more about what kind of incentive needs to be implemented. What would pull all of you into wanting to tower again? With the way the system was exploited, which was absolutely disgusting, what kind of rewards would you enjoy "towering" over?

I never cared for hats when I towered, I just wanted to make a guild that would some day be notorious in taking and holding a towers much like Maphasy or Ninja Warriors. As soon as I started getting my stats to a worthy look, the reward system was eradicated and towering became nothing more than something to do if ye didn't feel like sparring or buying stuff for your house. I didn't think this would kill towering, but I was wrong since they hadn't put in a secure system to replace the old one.

As of now there is no point in towering at all, unless you just want to do it to have fun there isn't anything to compete for now. Hats alone are meh, I don't think that would spark everyone's interest at this point since not too many currently care for hats. I could be wrong, though.

We saw something about a guild shop, which opens up many opportunities such as points for how many hours a guild holds a tower to spend on items or things in the guild shop.

A new loyalty system should be in place to prevent anymore of that rec, use, kick and repeat BS. Perhaps a penalty system if ye kick a member. "But that can also be exploited since people will troll guilds!" Keep the word loyalty in mind, because a guild shouldn't be filled with randoms to aid your goals.

Rusix · 09-07-2017

Posted by McCullough

This is less about the guild system but more about what kind of incentive needs to be implemented. What would pull all of you into wanting to tower again? With the way the system was exploited, which was absolutely disgusting, what kind of rewards would you enjoy "towering" over?

I never cared for hats when I towered, I just wanted to make a guild that would some day be notorious in taking and holding a towers much like Maphasy or Ninja Warriors. As soon as I started getting my stats to a worthy look, the reward system was eradicated and towering became nothing more than something to do if ye didn't feel like sparring or buying stuff for your house. I didn't think this would kill towering, but I was wrong since they hadn't put in a secure system to replace the old one.

As of now there is no point in towering at all, unless you just want to do it to have fun there isn't anything to compete for now. Hats alone are meh, I don't think that would spark everyone's interest at this point since not too many currently care for hats. I could be wrong, though.

We saw something about a guild shop, which opens up many opportunities such as points for how many hours a guild holds a tower to spend on items or things in the guild shop.

A new loyalty system should be in place to prevent anymore of that rec, use, kick and repeat BS. Perhaps a penalty system if ye kick a member. "But that can also be exploited since people will troll guilds!" Keep the word loyalty in mind, because a guild shouldn't be filled with randoms to aid your goals.

Such a system could work. Guild shops, loyalty points, ect. But you are also right these things can be exploited fairly easily. If anything makes competition risky by either playe not helping in towering or giving the wrong guild member kick powers

LoX · 09-08-2017

To reduce exploiting guilds, they could be penalised for kicking too many people in a short span of time, say 3-5 in only a few hours

Rusix · 09-08-2017

Posted by LoX

To reduce exploiting guilds, they could be penalised for kicking too many people in a short span of time, say 3-5 in only a few hours

That still could still be a double edged blade. Exploiting a guild and getting in and leaving is also pretty doable. Just have someone rec and get could leave on their own which could hurt the guild. Also multiple people could kick multiple people

Red · 09-08-2017

removing 1k hats is one of the worst decisions ever.

whats the point in towering anymore.

Kouji · 09-09-2017

Such system has been in the rumors for longer than I can remember

Jose Papp · 09-09-2017

Posted by Red

removing 1k hats is one of the worst decisions ever.

whats the point in towering anymore.

Before i'm eaten alive, i actually understand it is uncomfortable and dumb not to have a system while the other keeps developing, but i don't think they actually have another server to test things in. Roughly half of the work of the NGS is on fp4. We've waited for over a year, why don'tcha guys try to enjoy the other parts of the game? Slow and steady, as they say. Ranting ain't gonna boost it off. The complaints have already been noticed. I actually prefer a complete almost bugless system than a buggy incomplete piece of code (we have something similar though) so why don't we wait a lil' more? This ain't delteria we're talking about

Red · 09-11-2017

Posted by Jose Papp

Before i'm eaten alive, i actually understand it is uncomfortable and dumb not to have a system while the other keeps developing, but i don't think they actually have another server to test things in. Roughly half of the work of the NGS is on fp4. We've waited for over a year, why don'tcha guys try to enjoy the other parts of the game? Slow and steady, as they say. Ranting ain't gonna boost it off. The complaints have already been noticed. I actually prefer a complete almost bugless system than a buggy incomplete piece of code (we have something similar though) so why don't we wait a lil' more? This ain't delteria we're talking about

because they're literally more boring then towering already is...

Jose Papp · 09-11-2017

Posted by Red

because they're literally more boring then towering already is...

If that's so why don't ya try silent strike? Half of posts are from towering's dead complains

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Sky VS Peut un porte Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Moncuq Posts: 110	York town is cool but it's getting old I think Admins will Update it soon

08-18-2017	32
Zorma Knight Retired PK Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 358	Heres a idea: Stop playing Graal on September cuz there prob to be nothing new, except new hats at destiny or other shops, and the go back to play at October for graaloween event :L

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deadowl Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 783	Why not change it to something similar to my implementation from like 10 years ago where you have to hold for two minutes to gain a guild win and a single slash brings about a new flag-holder? That US vs. Ventrue battle when I first implemented it was intense af.

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Rusix The Eternal Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: York Town Posts: 1,152	Towering kinda is more then dead. It's an unflavored and undesired sport in graal now. Graal removed the one thing that made many more players than there is now to do it. Though one could argue people still enjoy it, which yes of course people will enjoy towering regardless, especially if your from Maphasy or other tower guilds. It's just your thing. Towering now is extremely out of balance. There is no longer a single reward or anything at all for towering regardless of how much you end up doing so as far as my knowledge is since they removed hats about a year or two ago. Along with the disappearance within the years towers in York, Castle, Snowtown.ect players are now forced to take over towers that was once Their friendly tower neighbor. Forcing fiercer competition and even killing competition among guilds who are no longer able to tower or even be unsuccessful at towering after a point in time, which also made it impossible for newer rising tower guilds to compete with the more fierce competiting tower guilds during the times when tower guilds was starting to disappear more and more. As a result of all these incidents,towering has became most likely the most unpracticed activitiy in graal than it ever was in recent years, with new tower guilds rarely appearing leaving only the older guilds to rule over that tower for however long they feel like it. So after all these slam attack of incidents, what are we led with? An extremely unflavored activitiy in Graal. One which not even new guilds are appearing into anymore to do. And if they do it is seemingly extremely rare. Compared to the other most known activity in graal, Sparring. Towering has become very unbalanced when compared to it. In sparring you could spar enough to get your name written in a book for 40k ect. Or get good enough to attend a GST which give you the mystery gift for 2500. But towering now anyway. There is absolutely no reward. Nothing to even motivate or pull newer players to attend the activity.

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WaFFL3Cake Baddy Killer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: United States Posts: 582	Towering isn't dead; you're dead.

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McCullough Úsáideoir Cláraithe Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 527	This is less about the guild system but more about what kind of incentive needs to be implemented. What would pull all of you into wanting to tower again? With the way the system was exploited, which was absolutely disgusting, what kind of rewards would you enjoy "towering" over? I never cared for hats when I towered, I just wanted to make a guild that would some day be notorious in taking and holding a towers much like Maphasy or Ninja Warriors. As soon as I started getting my stats to a worthy look, the reward system was eradicated and towering became nothing more than something to do if ye didn't feel like sparring or buying stuff for your house. I didn't think this would kill towering, but I was wrong since they hadn't put in a secure system to replace the old one. As of now there is no point in towering at all, unless you just want to do it to have fun there isn't anything to compete for now. Hats alone are meh, I don't think that would spark everyone's interest at this point since not too many currently care for hats. I could be wrong, though. We saw something about a guild shop, which opens up many opportunities such as points for how many hours a guild holds a tower to spend on items or things in the guild shop. A new loyalty system should be in place to prevent anymore of that rec, use, kick and repeat BS. Perhaps a penalty system if ye kick a member. "But that can also be exploited since people will troll guilds!" Keep the word loyalty in mind, because a guild shouldn't be filled with randoms to aid your goals.

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LoX Battle Arena AFKer Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 102	To reduce exploiting guilds, they could be penalised for kicking too many people in a short span of time, say 3-5 in only a few hours

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Red Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 3,255	removing 1k hats is one of the worst decisions ever. whats the point in towering anymore.

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Kouji Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 108	Such system has been in the rumors for longer than I can remember