Don't ip ban - 3

Higbey · 10-09-2011

Tell that to captain hax. And those guys on iera that kept coming back and pissing the staff off as they tried to find a way to keep them off.

NYN · 10-09-2011

Posted by Higbey

Tell that to captain hax. And those guys on iera that kept coming back and pissing the staff off as they tried to find a way to keep them off.

A legendary troll. I am not worthy.

BboyEatsbacon · 10-09-2011

Posted by Skill

(no I'm not raging, I am not banned in any way nor is anyone I know)

I hate how Stefan and the gms think that they're stopping hackers by ip banning them. They are not solving problems, they are only causing more.
We all know local account bans are overrun by making a new account with a device id faking program or a new fb account. However, a whole network can be blocked using an ip ban,or at least they think. Admins think this stops the best of hackers, but in reality it only causes more problems. Allow me to explain.

Player h4xor(made up) hacks walls and is invincible. Admins ban his account but he keeps returning with new accounts so they ip ban him.

Now h4xor uses a proxy server to connect to graal, which basically puts another server in the middle to change the ip received by the server.(highly simplified) He can now connect by using various proxy servers on new accounts.

We now know that ip bans are easily avoidable, but what harm can they do?

I recently went to a local fast food restaurant in an urban city and attempted to log into graal. Apparently someone got ip banned there so I couldn't connect. If Graal becomes a large game, then this could become a major problem. People getting permanently ip banned at public networks can lead to graal becoming unplayable away from home.

More information, did it come up with the ban screen, or did it just not connect?
If it didn't connect, the Restaurant just doesn't allow their internet to be used on the same ports that Graal connects to.

Posted by Higbey

Tell that to captain hax. And those guys on iera that kept coming back and pissing the staff off as they tried to find a way to keep them off.

He stopped coming back awhile ago.

NYN · 10-09-2011

Posted by BboyEatsbacon

He stopped coming back awhile ago.

He's busy with school and a girlfriend.

Skill · 10-09-2011

Posted by NYN

Yeah they can. Some people like to go through the trouble of doing it. For us it only takes 2 seconds to reban them. We can find them easily because these players seem to work in patterns. For example Captainhaxs would just put his name back to Captainhaxs. He would do it for the lulz though so we love him for it. There are other ways besides names that are automatically logged so we can find them without much of an effort. Have fun continuing to reset your account I suppose.

doesn't reseting just change your ip within its range? I thought Graal banned the whole ip range.

Twinny · 10-09-2011

Posted by Skill

doesn't reseting just change your ip within its range? I thought Graal banned the whole ip range.

You are in error. The new system only allows single address bans and does not allow for wild masking.

Jatz · 10-09-2011

Posted by Higbey

Tell that to captain hax. And those guys on iera that kept coming back and pissing the staff off as they tried to find a way to keep them off.

Captainhax was banned about 2 months ago on iera and hasn't been back since. 'that other guy' just got bored.

Lion · 10-09-2011

lol

who likes it

Maikeru · 10-10-2011

Posted by Lion

lol

who likes it

Lol. Wrong section buddy.

Chaotic · 10-10-2011

Way to steal haro's images by the way

°Seeker99 · 10-12-2011

Timmy is 11. He likes to spar and never does anything bad. Seeker99 is his next-door-neighbor, he's not a very l33t haxor, so when he got IP banned he needs a new internet connection. So he walks to the west side of his house and logs onto his internet, within a few minutes Seeker99 is IP banned again. Poor Timmy can't play Graal anymore.

Higbey · 10-12-2011

I doubt the game is popular enough to have that happebn

°Seeker99 · 10-12-2011

Oh, I've done it before! Timmy actually wasn't a little kid it was one of my friends but the IP ban has now expired.

reyalS · 10-12-2011

Posted by MattKan

Really? Cuz the idea of IP banning people sounds awfully satisfactory...

IP banning is satisfying! You feel great banning someone and knowing that they can't ***** at you!

MrSimons · 10-15-2011

How do u guys resist the urge to IP ban every player u see?

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Lion new USER new name SATAN Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7	like lol who likes it Attached Thumbnails

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	Tell that to captain hax. And those guys on iera that kept coming back and pissing the staff off as they tried to find a way to keep them off.

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Chaotic busy Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,270	Way to steal haro's images by the way

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°Seeker99 Idle like a boss! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 789	Timmy is 11. He likes to spar and never does anything bad. Seeker99 is his next-door-neighbor, he's not a very l33t haxor, so when he got IP banned he needs a new internet connection. So he walks to the west side of his house and logs onto his internet, within a few minutes Seeker99 is IP banned again. Poor Timmy can't play Graal anymore.

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MrSimons :) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: no. Posts: 10,309	How do u guys resist the urge to IP ban every player u see?