Posted by God

You think you had it unfair? A couple gst's ago , my guild faced US first round . Lol .

Same thing happened to me. I was in Mentos' guild Akira. Well we faced US first and got creamed.  

Just wondering something. Do you admins even keep a log of who was warned or banned? Shouldn't they be cross checking the lists when players submit their gst teams? That way if they see a banned player on them they pm the guild leader saying they have to remove the player because they are on the banned list and resubmit there team if they wish to participate in the gst.  

Posted by ufoburan

Just wondering something. Do you admins even keep a log of who was warned or banned? Shouldn't they be cross checking the lists when players submit their gst teams? That way if they see a banned player on them they pm the guild leader saying they have to remove the player because they are on the banned list and resubmit there team if they wish to participate in the gst.

We do keep logs of all bans and warnings. The problem is that players make new accounts when they get banned in their main. The disqualifications happen when the team is using a banned player on an alternate account.  

Posted by iHot

Same thing happened to me. I was in Mentos' guild Akira. Well we faced US first and got creamed.

same iHot i was in Akira with Mentos, Nyx and a few others back in 2011 for the VIP/FB server iDevice Gst we lost to us first round sad.....  

Posted by Jack {A}

same iHot i was in Akira with Mentos, Nyx and a few others back in 2011 for the VIP/FB server iDevice Gst we lost to us first round sad.....

Lol I remember that. We had such high hopes. I even played on PC to be better,  

I didn't see any of the "everyone" guild's matches other than the finals, but to me it looked like they won really convincingly. If it was 3-2 or something and some player was teleporting around getting Goku hits then alright, but 3-0 and having several people alive each round says to me they won it either way.  

'Everyone' really does all lag horribly and is probably the laggiest Gst team put together. From experience I know 7mood is probably the biggest lagger in the game from being pked by him at sardines. And Sarah I dunno much about but I think I've seen everyone on the game call her a lagger lol, yeah I know some people may just be raging but when it's like every single person that spars her you know something is up. Sebastian, Tucker, Abood I haven't sparred them or anything much but I'm going to take it they lag bad since so many complained and I think abood was even forced to sit out. Lastly, Jack Sparrow who I know is one of the worst laggers in the game lol. I've gsed a bunch against him his delay allows him to run through peoples swords and do hax almost on the same level as Rufus. (On a serious note Jack lags like ****).

And from watching the final fight I saw some of this. I saw 7mood get hit when noone was even near him which doesn't really add up lol. How can someone land a hit on him if it's that random. I understand these kids can't control there delay and what not because it's there country. But i'm sure some of them can and just were desperate to win. I think Sage made a good point. "2 people warped out for excessive lag, that's disqualification of the whole team". According to the rules that's correct I recall (correct me if i'm wrong).

Now now when the lag complaints get this bad the admins instead of just judging by watching they SHOULD of sparred them themselves. A couple trustworthy admins should of been sent in there to do a test match. If the admins thought the players truly were unhittable or extremely hard to hit because of there lag then that should be the end of it and they should be DQ'd. If the admins thought they were hittable just fine then no DQ it's that simple.  

Alright guys, everyone's least favorite sparrer here to drop some information on all of you and cause drama. I can type a lot of stuff about this GST, but instead I'll stick to only typing about the final rounds of both sides.

iDevice GST:

Yeah yeah, I feel the same way as everybody else does about this final round, of course. The laggiest team one could ever create won a GST and they all should have been disqualified during the first round. Our hosts, fp4 and coco88, warped out their player Abood in the middle of our matches. Now I'll take this straight from the GST information: "Any excessive lag or cheating will result in a disqualification of the entire guild." Yeah, the entire guild should have been disqualified according to their rules, not just Abood, who lagged less than half of their other players anyways. At one point in the final round, I landed a hit on 7mood literally 4 seconds after I swung my sword. Now, if you don't believe me, somebody recorded the GST finals and put it on youtube, find his thread here and go to 3:55 in the video.

So basically if you're too lazy to read my complaining above, I'll summarize it here: the GST rules say (everyone) should have been disqualified as a whole and if Abood was warped out, most of their other players should have been disqualified with him.

Now, if you're going to type something like: "OMG so you care so much about winning that you'd want to win by a DQ??!!" my answer is yes, and I'd also support any other guild on this whole game over (everyone) in this situation because (everyone) did not play skillfully and did not deserve a win.

Mixed GST:

I did not watch any parts of the GST and therefore can not complain about lag or anything like I just did for the iDevice GST, but let me lay down some information that none of you have heard and get myself into some huge drama because drama is fun.

So, Deity players continuously warped out against US and did not get a redo when John warped out, correct? Well, that's a result of bad hosting, but I don't care about that part. Here is WHY they warped out:

Deity beat the guild (SM) so basically terry and his brother siggy were pissed off and willing to do anything to make Deity lose. This should be easy to believe since terry AKA prynce has gone to extremes such as freezing his wi-fi when he is about to lose a spar in order to maintain his fake ratio. Now, how they made Deity players warp out:
When you are kicked from a guild, your current guild tag removes itself for a second. I don't know why this stupid function is in this game and well, it should be fixed as soon as somebody important reads this (Hey Rufus, here you go), but Siggy used it to make Deity players warp out against US. Want a little bit of proof because you don't believe anything I say? Siggy has the power to kick people in my best friend LiA05's guild (Farmers Club). Red Leo (the same person who warped out at 2.5 health) and John (the same person who warped out at 1.0 health, I think) were in this guild. Now look in it for them, where the hell are they? They were kicked out by Siggy during the finals.

That is all, enjoy raging at something I typed up or enjoy being mad at players for being completely unfair and swaying the GST results in their favor. Rufus didn't rig it for US, but (SM) did. Now, don't get mad at the whole guild, none of them know of these strategies besides the people who utilized them.  

Solution to delay:

Create graal tournament realm, host a LAN and fly in the top guilds to participate. We'll be left with 1 or 2 people.  

If that's what happened, then I feel like Siggy/Terry hardly fixed the tournament against Deity (even if that was their intention). They should obviously be banned and that needs to be fixed either way.

We had a lead in the round that Red Leo was warped out of and we were forced to concede that round. If he was never warped out, it's very possible that we could have won. In the round that everyone is claiming John was warped out of, we were winning by even more.

Overall, I don't care so much because I'd spar that team again 20 times today and probably win 15 of them. I was warped out of the arena once before and it was completely ignored and my team lost because of it. People should get their stories together before accusing an entire guild of some mass carehard conspiracy against them. The same goes for the idiots who pop up every GST claiming that you "got their member banned." This is like the second or third GST in a row that Dae has involved me in apparently getting someone who I've never even heard of banned.

Spoiler

Ya, trust me, if there's anything I'm doing before a GST it's shaking nervously in front of my keyboard at the idea of having to spar against the great "Rocket".

Take responsibility for your own actions, blame the hosts and not the opposing team, etc.  

If you want a real GST just make a guild, find other guilds, make a bracket, then go to Belle where no one will bother you. It's simple. Only thing is no one ever does it.  

Is the GST more about drama and complaints than about sparring? Seems like.  

Not quoting the entire thread, but this is why I don't spar or participate in the gst.  

Posted by Rezon

Solution to delay:

Create graal tournament realm, host a LAN and fly in the top guilds to participate. We'll be left with 1 or 2 people.

they don't even wanna spend a couple of bux fixing their servers  

Hmmm. Well if delayers can easily beat skilled sparrers who have won w/o delay, then what's the point of GST? Here lemme pre-order my fresh Arabian router with AUTHENTIC preset delay.

Why do we have GST if people with delay, they can't control, can make a team full people wth the same router issue?

Last thing:

Us players can easily place the GST hosters at fault for things here and there. My question is, was there any training beforehand? New admins like Leah and others were hosting and, if I'm right, she's new staff and has never hosted GST before.