Posted by OG

I'm from Australia I ALWAYS have 230-300 ping while sparring I don't lag at all.
I have no delay whatsoever (on tie hits I always win the match tho =O idk y) compared to someone like Nell.

i sparred you before you delay but not as bad as someone like nell  

Posted by OG

I'm from Australia I ALWAYS have 230-300 ping while sparring I don't lag at all.
I have no delay whatsoever (on tie hits I always win the match tho =O idk y) compared to someone like Nell.

When someone gets to >400ms, it starts to become a major unfair advantage.
When someone gets to >500ms, it starts to become ridiculous.

At 500ms, someone with 0ms can hit the entirety of that player's hitbox and that player can get away clean (if moving away from their opponent). Based on my experience hitting someone twice after being removed from the spar area for losing, they'd have to have had something like 6,000ms ping minimum based on how far away from them I had to slash to even register a hit.

0.5tiles / 50ms = speed
500ms * speed = 5tiles = 2.5hitboxes
A player's hitbox, I'm assuming based on a player's blocking area, is 2x2tiles.  

You barely notice the delay on Graal with 230-300 ping, but its still there  

No. You think you're hitting someones hitbox (and it may look that way), but you aren't. It's not possible to be hitting someones hitbox and not hurting them unless they're using godmode or something.  

Posted by David

No. You think you're hitting someones hitbox (and it may look that way), but you aren't. It's not possible to be hitting someones hitbox and not hurting them unless they're using godmode or something.

-_-  

Posted by David

No. You think you're hitting someones hitbox (and it may look that way), but you aren't. It's not possible to be hitting someones hitbox and not hurting them unless they're using godmode or something.

Do you understand that I'm using hypotheticals and the general concept of relativity?

When both people have 0 ping is the baseline for what I was getting at.

When one person has 0 ping, and the other has 500ms ping, the 500ms guy could be 2.5 hitbox-widths further away when they register 0ms-guy's attack than they would if they had 0 ping.  

Posted by OG

I'm from Australia I ALWAYS have 230-300 ping while sparring I don't lag at all.
I have no delay whatsoever (on tie hits I always win the match tho =O idk y) compared to someone like Nell.

You clearly have no clue how this works... when your delay/latency/ping/lag is consistent, you cant hardly detect your own lag.  

I'm convinced you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and just threw together some random words like "ms" "hitbox" "tiles" and "speed", added some numbers, multiplied randomly and came to some impaired conclusion that their hitbox is somehow smaller than yours?

Again- I wouldn't know because your reasoning and sentence structure does not make much sense at all.  

No disrespect to my pc users, but until you can prove what you say with an idevice I suggest you leave the advise to the best sparrer in iClassic, Sir Comet. That's right boys, the delayer slayer.

If it's so easy to take down these "godly" delayers come do it in the idevice room. Don't worry I will record it, so people can see how to take them down. Let me know when you guys want to do it.




un-silence pacman  

Posted by twilit

You clearly have no clue how this works... when your delay/latency/ping/lag is consistent, you cant hardly detect your own lag.

You can easily detect if you're delaying bad by opening a profile. If its instant, you aren't getting horrible delay  

Posted by GOAT

If it's so easy to take down these "godly" delayers come do it in the idevice room. Don't worry I will record it, so people can see how to take them down. Let me know when you guys want to do it.

Mr. Mod. A question! what does this have to do with Pc and idev?

Posted by Ash Ketchum

You can easily detect if you're delaying bad by opening a profile. If its instant, you aren't getting horrible delay

so i delay like *** on my ipod... i see  

Posted by Zetectic

Mr. Mod. A question! what does this have to do with Pc and idev?

Super Mod pls
Because I know they can't. Don't want to bring the pc thing, so it doesn't turn into another 20 page flamewar. I just think it's funny how they try to act like it's that easy knowing they jumped to pc because they sucked with their idevice.

Want proof? nobody will step up.

ALL HAIL Sir COMET  

No, not all 'delayers' have high ping. A lot of people before considered japanese players to be the laggers of Graal but they dont even lag, just have a very slight 'delay' which is not a problem at all but everyone else made it a problem before. My average ping in the Philippines with a horrible package deal of 3mbps for $30 (I will not pay any higher for 1 or 2mb extra, its slow and expensive here) is between 180-200ms+ (Considered Average, not High yet im considered as a horrible delayer?)but I get an occasional lag spike because I have a brother and sister that uses our internet too so you can consider me a horrible delayer when that happens. Message to all sparrers, delayers and non-delayers. If you call yourself a sparrer then learn to spar againsts these 'delayers' you see without ever making excuses or the need to call that player out for 'delaying'. This includes the people who abuses their lag/delay to spar.  

Posted by Vendetta

You can still see threads from people on your ignore list and click to view their posts, nothing "fishy" about it.

Just gonna leave this here for the unaware/stupid.  

Posted by KuyaGabeGraal

No, not all 'delayers' have high ping.

If you delay, it is because your ping is consistently high
Not "high" as in what "showlag" says
But high
Over 150 ping to any game = high