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Veritired ✔️
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Earning Unix dem stacks
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: In a fox hole somewhere
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US (BTK)
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all for victory
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Townsville
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Python
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,027
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When the server is at 4k and someone is delaying, they clearly have a huge advantage, especially if they warp too. Doesn't matter how good you are.
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Earning Unix dem stacks
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: In a fox hole somewhere
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Just some kid
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 93
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Adapt to your surroundings. Simple as that. Maybe I give a lot of you too much respect.
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Enguard & Alumni
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,773
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just needs to be a jitter cap that prevents people from sparring if their ping fluctuates by like 30-40%, not much you can do about delayers
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Sweden
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Classic
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: New York City
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This. I wrote this in a spar thread two years ago, but it's very relevant here: As someone who has frequently been on both sides of this issue, since I used to have a WiFi with 100-300 ping (for the past year I now have 50-60), both players have just as hard of a time hitting each other. The only reason the person who lags usually wins is because they know how to predict where their opponent will be, while the non-lagger has no clue how to predict anything. It's not an advantage, it's just better experience. This also goes for people who are warping around. You are warping on their screen as well. It's just that, generally speaking, they can predict with better accuracy where someone will be after the next warp. Since the server is unstable, the solution is to just get better at sparring. |
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US (BTK)
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 226
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I am arguing that you shouldn't have to be put in that position in the first place. Jumping around the screen randomly (unless you are quite familiar with a lagger's technique) is not what a spar is supposed to be. Why am I being forced to deal with people who can't maintain a reasonable connection. And I hope someone doesn't say "just don't spar then" because that's the wrong mentality for fixing the issue in my opinion. |
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God
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: my house
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Anyone saying delay/lag is not an advantage because they are experiencing it too is just lying to themselves and total bs. There is clearly an advantage. I don't see how better experience is not an advantage. Let's say Sally is a delayer with 10k wins, and Sam is a normal sparrer with no delay/lag and also has 10k wins. Both of them should have the same experience. But Sally clearly would have an advantage if they spar, since Sally already has 10k wins of experience with her unique delay and know how much to predict while Sam may have little to no experience of Sally's delay. |
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Enguard & Alumni
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,773
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agreed, which is why the whole conversation is moot until the server gets improved the "get better at sparring" discussion is stupid, it's not even about that it's that there are some players who clearly "artificially lag" and use the fact that they are located in Europe/Asia/wherever as a crutch for them to recklessly teleport around the arena, shouldn't be happening even if you can 100-0 that player I personally don't care if someone delays, it's boring but easy, but someone warping around the arena "because I live in _____" (bad excuse) is stupid, 100% random spar, disadvantages the better player and advantages the worse player |
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New Age Legacy
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Graal
Posts: 1,633
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Might as well just ban laggers from the server because it's annoying when pkers at towers are laggy.
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