Since the M16 sucks for spar now, imma use the big water gun.  

Posted by Agony

No disrespect here, but I don't think weakening a 120000 gun to make it just a little better than a 40000 gun isn't "balanced" - the idea of balancing isn't tp equalize all of the guns. It's to give the gun the appropriate quality for the price paid. If you want all the guns to be equal, make them all priced the same, just balance out the disadvantages and advantages of each gun.

Actually I pwn shipkas with tec because it's based on my skill,the shipka is way better than tec it's just the person wielding it.I personally like tec better because I'm used to the speed now and I learned how to easily take out shipkas,other than that...Ya I agree.  

Posted by Herb_P2P

Everyone grew dependent on guns that had no freeze which is why they all are complaining. Either get use to the correct balanced version or play another game.

Exactly.

Posted by Alpha1711

First off... Why would you ever spend 45$ on a virtual gun

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Okay, I keep reading all the moaning and bitching, but you guys failed to even pay attention when I said "I'm not finished yet." A lot of guns just got less freeze on them, like the Shipka and Tec9 for example. First it was "The Tec9 is to slow." now people are pming me "The Tec9 is to fast!" C'mon, seriously? I know I can't satisfy everyone, but this is ridiculous. I decreased the freeze on the Shipka a little bit though. Now, if I take anymore off on the Shipka, then it will be exactly what it was before. And if you think the Shipka shoots slow.. you're ****ing blind.  

Yea guys you may have to deal with it, its hard enough for cloyd to please 1000 players who all want different things, cut him some slack hes doing the best anyone could possibly do, so just stop complaining about it find a new tactic of using your weapon ;) this game wouldnt be fun without a challenge, rather than it being the same, shipka and bar users getting the streaks, your just mad because players arnt presenting themselves on a golden plate for you to easily kill.  

At first i didn't like the changed of the guns. But now i think it is a good thing and i'm happy. I think it is more fair and that now people who aren't so good have a chance to compete with good sparrers. Now it will depend less on guns but more on skills. And that is the main point/caracteristic of spar and pk (my thought). Morever people shouldn't complain about tec9 because Cloyd made more freeze but made it faster so it is as if he didnt do anything (i think it is a tood upload).  

Posted by Cloyd

Exactly.



I love you.



Okay, I keep reading all the moaning and bitching, but you guys failed to even pay attention when I said "I'm not finished yet." A lot of guns just got less freeze on them, like the Shipka and Tec9 for example. First it was "The Tec9 is to slow." now people are pming me "The Tec9 is to fast!" C'mon, seriously? I know I can't satisfy everyone, but this is ridiculous. I decreased the freeze on the Shipka a little bit though. Now, if I take anymore off on the Shipka, then it will be exactly what it was before. And if you think the Shipka shoots slow.. you're ****ing blind.

Exactly, Just stick a damn handgun if you don't like the other guns -.- I has no freeze, like everyone said. It hits low, But at least it's a gun. Just get used to the guns -.-"  

Posted by Cloyd

Exactly.



I love you.



Okay, I keep reading all the moaning and bitching, but you guys failed to even pay attention when I said "I'm not finished yet." A lot of guns just got less freeze on them, like the Shipka and Tec9 for example. First it was "The Tec9 is to slow." now people are pming me "The Tec9 is to fast!" C'mon, seriously? I know I can't satisfy everyone, but this is ridiculous. I decreased the freeze on the Shipka a little bit though. Now, if I take anymore off on the Shipka, then it will be exactly what it was before. And if you think the Shipka shoots slow.. you're ****ing blind.

Thank you Cloyd. And I wouldn't call it bitching and moaning, but more of a civilized protest. At least we aren't noobs spamming you in-game, all caps, yelling "FIX THNSHOIPKA!!11!"  

Indeed.... O.o  

Lol if you guys want fully auto guns go on era pc :3  

Posted by Death Knight

Lol if you guys want fully auto guns go on era pc :3

There's more than enough BARs and SMGPKs to go around.  

Was sten unchanged?  

Yes ^  

Posted by Cloyd

Exactly.



I love you.



Okay, I keep reading all the moaning and bitching, but you guys failed to even pay attention when I said "I'm not finished yet." A lot of guns just got less freeze on them, like the Shipka and Tec9 for example. First it was "The Tec9 is to slow." now people are pming me "The Tec9 is to fast!" C'mon, seriously? I know I can't satisfy everyone, but this is ridiculous. I decreased the freeze on the Shipka a little bit though. Now, if I take anymore off on the Shipka, then it will be exactly what it was before. And if you think the Shipka shoots slow.. you're ****ing blind.

be nice

and to some points i agree and to others i disagree. as Kane said, people grew dependent on spray (myself too kinda), but this is an opportunity to gain some skill with other guns and experiment. I was always better with my AUG than my shipka for the reason that i cant spray it and it makes me have to dodge.

But the prices that people have to pay for a gun should also revolve around its quality.

but I'll let you do your thing, and see where this all ends up. I'm guessing you're modifying to prepare for some new guns, as was done in that past. So just hang in there guys  

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Posted by Alpha1711

First off... Why would you ever spend 45$ on a virtual gun when you can get a quality real life airsoft gun with that money!

Not everyone is old enough to shoot a real life airsoft gun so using 45$ dollars in a game is the best way to have fun. But too some kids 45$ is alot of money so thats why they complain about the shipka becoming balanced.