Twilit stop saying that every comment not agreeing with you is raging. You basically just want the whole thread filled with people who agree with you. Also if you don't care about scores why were you arguing so much about the fb hours being merged. Mellow out man, if it makes you this angry just don't look at them.  

Posted by Rezon

That barely gives you an advantage, plus half the keyboards cant do that due to keyboard ghosting. (Hardware issue which conflicts with multiple keys pressed down). The only way to truly settle this argument is to have an unbiased opinion, someone who has used both devices..

Don't even start with this. I said what needed to be said and I'm sticking with it. I have used PC before for recording videos if you have not seen. I know what both are like.

Posted by Maikeru

Handicapping!? Really!? You're considering Handicapping as a strong issue between PC and iPhone players?

The only problem with iPhone and PC is just that the arrow keys are smoother.. Still, they play in the same experience. Also, you can easily switch direction of movement by sliding your finger across the D-Pad on the iPhone/iPad.. So its relatively equal in some point

Also, Screen size isn't that too big to call it a serious issue.
This is basically similar to the guy that wanted FB spar players to be in iPhone GST tournaments because the vice versa of that got accepted.

The devices are not equal and that's all that matters.  

News: due to a error with the scoreboards they have been temporarily taken down.


never put it back up.


perfect way to do this and avoid rage, no one will think they are doing it on purpose and just think the scoreboard system got glitched.
everyone will forget about it eventually.  

Posted by Madhog

Twilit stop saying that every comment not agreeing with you is raging. You basically just want the whole thread filled with people who agree with you. Also if you don't care about scores why were you arguing so much about the fb hours being merged. Mellow out man, if it makes you this angry just don't look at them.

Look at daphne... She stated her opinion disagreeing with twilit and he was fine with it... Right when you see his thread and you disagree you start the name calling...

Posted by Higbey

News: due to a error with the scoreboards they have been temporarily taken down.


never put it back up.


perfect way to do this and avoid rage, no one will think they are doing it on purpose and just think the scoreboard system got glitched.
everyone will forget about it eventually.

Lmao  

Posted by GotenGraal

Look at daphne... She stated her opinion disagreeing with twilit and he was fine with it... Right when you see his thread and you disagree you start the name calling...



Lmao

What are you talking about I never name called. You did not read my post as I never said anything about people posting I was talking about twilit calling everyone that diagreeded with him a rager. If you do this one more time I'm just going to disregard your posts as you clearly do not have the cortousy to read mine.  

Pc has no advantages...  

Posted by Remorse

Pc has no advantages...

That's a big laugh.  

How? They complain when I win against them on my ipad.
Just pay attention to movement.  

Posted by Remorse

How? They complain when I win against them on my ipad.
Just pay attention to movement.

Already explained in my post, but if you don't feel like reading the full description here is a list.

-Screen Size
-Lag Reduction
-Controls

I'm honestly tired of even explaining them because people are constantly making up excuses. If the two were equal no one would be complaining, but they obviously aren't since people notice who uses PC and how they spar.  

The ipads screen is a lot larger than a pc screen.
Also,they do have the right to play with whatever device they feel comfortable with.  

Posted by Tyler

Already explained in my post, but if you don't feel like reading the full description here is a list.

-Screen Size
-Lag Reduction
-Controls

I'm honestly tired of even explaining them because people are constantly making up excuses. If the two were equal no one would be complaining, but they obviously aren't since people notice who uses PC and how they spar.

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Screen Size is not considered a problem. Thats more like a made up excuse rather than a big issue because that has currently never been complained upon.

Second, Lag Reduction is an issue. You do have a point there. However, the reason is because the iPhone doesn't have as much power as a Desktop/Laptop. Regardless of connection, that sums up about it.

Third, the controls aren't an issue. Thats like if i have a PS3 DualShock controller and the other player has a PS3 Arcade Stick and we both play Street Fighter. Does that mean hes gonna win right away because he got an arcade stick? No. It comes from skill and effort. Regardless of control, all you gotta do is practice and spar. Its not the Controls that make a player stronger.. but from skill

However, the only thing i can agree with you on is the Lag Reduction on the PC but thats not the fault of the internet connection itself  

Posted by Remorse

The ipads screen is a lot larger than a pc screen.
Also,they do have the right to play with whatever device they feel comfortable with.

I'm aware of the screen difference, but the iPad has the same controls as all the other iDevices. It does have an unfair screen advantage like the PC, but again has the same controls as iDevices. I'm just tired of seeing PC's on iClassic. Keyword on the "i". Worst idea adding PC to it.  

Posted by Tyler

-Lag Reduction
-Controls

Lag reduction is untrue. For some people there is hardly a difference between the two devices. In some cases it is better, however not always.

Controls are better? That is a 100% opinion to be honest. Spar with what you prefer, or whichever is more comfortable for you. Sparring with a computer simply because it has "better controls" does not mean you are going to be better. It takes a while to get used to. I have seen this happen firsthand to me, as well as a handful of others.

Tyler, I respect you as a player, fighter, and Graalian. However, I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion on PC users. I have seen you fight (and evidently defeat) many PC users, leading me to believe you are a great fighter with the ability to overcome any of these "advantages" you list. It is not impossible, and the advantages of having PC access far outnumbers the disadvantages.

Twilit, you stated that PC players are what makes the spar scoreboard unfair. I believe you are mistaken. As I recall, you are a good PKer. I do believe you should be higher on the PK scoreboard. However, most of the highest numbers are scores from people who hardly ever PK anymore, or have gotten the score illegitimately. The same goes for us sparrers. Most of the scores I see on the scoreboard list people who spar once or twice every so often to keep their score on the board. The score is hardly accurate. Furthermore, people with higher scores do not spar as much, so better fighters have much trouble fighting hundreds of lesser skilled fighters for the same score a less inactive fighter has. Unlike the PK board, though, numbers can go up or down.

These problems are similar, but I do not see a possible fix for the problem other than to remove scoreboards completely. However, something tells me that will never happen...  

Posted by Higbey

News: due to a error with the scoreboards they have been temporarily taken down.


never put it back up.


perfect way to do this and avoid rage, no one will think they are doing it on purpose and just think the scoreboard system got glitched.
everyone will forget about it eventually.

how to fix this...  

Posted by Winter

Lag reduction is untrue. For some people there is hardly a difference between the two devices. In some cases it is better, however not always.

Controls are better? That is a 100% opinion to be honest. Spar with what you prefer, or whichever is more comfortable for you. Sparring with a computer simply because it has "better controls" does not mean you are going to be better. It takes a while to get used to. I have seen this happen firsthand to me, as well as a handful of others.

Tyler, I respect you as a player, fighter, and Graalian. However, I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion on PC users. I have seen you fight (and evidently defeat) many PC users, leading me to believe you are a great fighter with the ability to overcome any of these "advantages" you list. It is not impossible, and the advantages of having PC access far outnumbers the disadvantages.

My main concern with PC I will be honest is the key technique where they can hold the the two controls and run in a straight line horizontally or freeze themselves in a lag appearing way. If they took away the ability to do that I would actually be much happier. I respect you in the same ways Shannon, but I am standing by my current stance on PC. Just from personal experience I do not view the two devices as equal. I've tried to look past the usage of PC, but whenever someone brings up the topic and asks for my input I post it and end up getting in an argument I try to avoid. If the device specific rooms are made and are successful there will be nothing more to complain about PC in the Battle Arena since a choice is made.

Posted by Maikeru

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Screen Size is not considered a problem. Thats more like a made up excuse rather than a big issue because that has currently never been complained upon.

Second, Lag Reduction is an issue. You do have a point there. However, the reason is because the iPhone doesn't have as much power as a Desktop/Laptop. Regardless of connection, that sums up about it.

Third, the controls aren't an issue. Thats like if i have a PS3 DualShock controller and the other player has a PS3 Arcade Stick and we both play Street Fighter. Does that mean hes gonna win right away because he got an arcade stick? No. It comes from skill and effort. Regardless of control, all you gotta do is practice and spar. Its not the Controls that make a player stronger.. but from skill

However, the only thing i can agree with you on is the Lag Reduction on the PC but thats not the fault of the internet connection itself

The controls I only have a problem with because of they key holding technique. As explained before they can manipulate a lag running pose and run horizontally in a straight line which I see used a lot and it is very annoying. The iDevice users cannot do this giving them an advantage. Screen size is an advantage for guild spar in my opinion. I have used it in a guild spar once and it allowed me to see my teammates who needed help and people coming at me easier. I mainly have a problem with the controls, but I dislike these other features as well. I guess since the iPad has a screen bigger than the PC view it isn't really a fair comparison.