Posted by TheRookie

I don't contradict myself ever in arguments. Which is why I've always proven a point correctly.

You don't need responsibility to be a staff. You are GIVEN responsibility. Maturity comes with how you deal with that position of responsibility. That person was framed, and no, that is not being mature to cuss had he done so.

But despite the constant berating remarks and flames the iZone team is getting on the daily from you community posters, I'd say they are quite mature about it.



http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...295#post312295

You let me know if that was bashing. Or actual helpful advice. Either way, the message must get
across somehow

Uhhh I believe Jester said when the game first came out that thread was made a couple of days ago;)  

Posted by Ramaz Adelphos

Oh and you would know what it's like cussing as a staff memeber and getting fired ;) good day Fsh sticks

those insults don't even phase me, halfy because they make no sense, and i am really lazy and i dont feel like taking a screenshot to prove you wrong about sketch.

and getting fired was a relief for me  

Posted by Ramaz Adelphos

Wtf did sketch really say that? If he did he should be fired. Jester got fired for cussing (or so I heard) and he was a way better admin than sketch

Posted by Ramaz Adelphos

That's even more stupid for getting fired for cussing. Weren't u a head admin ._.?

Jester<3

Ramaz I am arguing with you because the reason Jester got fired was because he started conflicts within the staff team. He starts arguments and he is the very aggressive type when it comes to arguments. To say that Jester was a better admin than Sketch, (whom have completely different responsibilities to the server), that in itself is an ignorant comment. But more of the argument doesn't have to do with specifically you. It's about what happens in this next quote.

Posted by Ignatius

Never said you should be ashamed to work there, but I agree with everything else. No one really cares, and no one really plays. Sylvia still intrudes, Matt is still an idiot, and the server is going to hell. But, still, I think if Glazey was in charge within a month it would have a steady 500-1000+ playercount. Easily.

Sylvia has a right to intrude. The core team (specifically the Administrators of each branch) needs constant communication and coordination with each other for the better of the server. Calling "Matt" an idiot without realizing the steps he has to do to even make changes on a server that Stefan has such tight reigns on, is the epitome of ignorance.

Then again...everything I have just said will be disregarded by continued and probably intended, ignorance.

Stupid critics. Critiquing when you don't even know exactly what you're critiquing.  

Posted by TheRookie

You let me know if that was bashing. Or actual helpful advice. Either way, the message must get across somehow

My apologies if I am wrong, but I remember you harassing me and saying zone was going to be terrible and I do not contribute to anything until James having to message you to calm down. Again, forgive if I am wrong and it was someone else, it's just, you do have a history of going out of your way to insult people.  

this flame war is kinda boring..  

Posted by TheRookie

Sylvia has a right to intrude. The core team (specifically the Administrators of each branch) needs constant communication and coordination with each other for the better of the server.

Communication and intruding are two different things. She tells other leaders of departments HOW to do their job when she has no right to do so. She also complained because people had in their status "head of blahblah" when prince made new categories for his department. If it was just communication, I don't think the staff members would be complaining about her behind her back or towards her face.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

My apologies if I am wrong, but I remember you harassing me and saying zone was going to be terrible and I do not contribute to anything until James having to message you to calm down. Again, forgive if I am wrong and it was someone else, it's just, you do have a history of going out of your way to insult people.

I was addressing a different issue Jester, in which most of you new staff (at the time I considered you a part of this and probably still do), happened to enjoy claiming "all the hard work we've done" that actually came from Zone PC. So then I flamed ya'll for it, because it ain't nice to claim contributions and responsibility that you had no part in :].

Thanks for the reminder though. I remember the whole situation perfectly. <3

Posted by Jester Lapse

Communication and intruding are two different things. She tells other leaders of departments HOW to do their job when she has no right to do so. She also complained because people had in their status "head of blahblah" when prince made new categories for his department. If it was just communication, I don't think the staff members would be complaining about her behind her back or towards her face.

Then talk it out. You both held equal authority and you had enough say to tell her flaws about her own department too. But cutting her off completely and telling her to "mind her own business" is not the way two people of equal authority under the same roof should be interacting. Just sayin  

Posted by fsh

those insults don't even phase me, halfy because they make no sense, and i am really lazy and i dont feel like taking a screenshot to prove you wrong about sketch.

and getting fired was a relief for me

Lmao. You make yourself sound brother every time Fsh sticks  

Posted by TheRookie

Ramaz I am arguing with you because the reason Jester got fired was because he started conflicts within the staff team. He starts arguments and he is the very aggressive type when it comes to arguments. To say that Jester was a better admin than Sketch, (whom have completely different responsibilities to the server), that in itself is an ignorant comment. But more of the argument doesn't have to do with specifically you. It's about what happens in this next quote.



Sylvia has a right to intrude. The core team (specifically the Administrators of each branch) needs constant communication and coordination with each other for the better of the server. Calling "Matt" an idiot without realizing the steps he has to do to even make changes on a server that Stefan has such tight reigns on, is the epitome of ignorance.

Then again...everything I have just said will be disregarded by contin




ued and probably intended, ignorance.

Stupid critics. Critiquing when you don't even know exactly what you're critiquing.

Ok then, our argument is dead then agreed?  

Posted by TheRookie

I was addressing a different issue Jester, in which most of you new staff (at the time I considered you a part of this and probably still do), happened to enjoy claiming "all the hard work we've done" that actually came from Zone PC. So then I flamed ya'll for it, because it ain't nice to claim contributions and responsibility that you had no part in :].

Thanks for the reminder though. I remember the whole situation perfectly. <3

Well, seeing as you were wrong because iZone is nothing like Zone PC, you still bashed staff for no reason and harassed therefor making you a hypocrite in this situation really. You assumed things without knowing all the details. That is what these people are doing and you are flaming them for it. Ironic as stated prior.

Posted by TheRookie

Then talk it out. You both held equal authority and you had enough say to tell her flaws about her own department too. But cutting her off completely and telling her to "mind her own business" is not the way two people of equal authority under the same roof should be interacting. Just sayin

We were not equals, what I told her to butt out over was something totally irrelevant to her period. I was telling Nico to quit broadcasting the same message over and over after he did it 8 times in a 10 minute time frame. Again, assuming without facts Rook, you're losing it.  

Posted by TheRookie

a server that Stefan has such tight reigns on, is the epitome of ignorance.

This is the exact problem that's causing iZone to have it's low playercount. Stefan is insanely hard to reach most of the time because of the different time zones and ****. People don't understand that, but Matt so far has made some bad decisions.

All in all, Stefan uses those people as scapegoats as to why something fails.


@Ramaz, You're a idiot. I honestly don't remember the last time I've seen so much bull**** spew out of someones mouth.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Well, seeing as you were wrong because iZone is nothing like Zone PC, you still bashed staff for no reason and harassed therefor making you a hypocrite in this situation really. You assumed things without knowing all the details. That is what these people are doing and you are flaming them for it. Ironic as stated prior.



We were not equals, what I told her to butt out over was something totally irrelevant to her period. I was telling Nico to quit broadcasting the same message over and over after he did it 8 times in a 10 minute time frame. Again, assuming without facts Rook, you're losing it.

"iZone is nothing like Zone PC".... Hah. As soon as you said that the rest of the argument went invalid. I bashed staff, yes, but for a reason you know is true. How dumb of you say.

And fill me in with what Sylvia said. I assume in that situation she probably said "stop" or something of the sort? And you told her to not butt in? How cute. So where are you the victim in this again?  

Posted by TheRookie

"iZone is nothing like Zone PC".... Hah. As soon as you said that the rest of the argument went invalid. I bashed staff, yes, but for a reason you know is true. How dumb of you say.

And fill me in with what Sylvia said. I assume in that situation she probably said "stop" or something of the sort? And you told her to not butt in? How cute. So where are you the victim in this again?

Your argument
Don't claim work when it comes from zone pc

Reality
Not much came from pc

Your response
I am still right


Conversing with you is like talking with a brick wall. Point proven.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Reality
Not much came from pc

Your response
I am still right


Conversing with you is like talking with a brick wall. Point proven.

Going to have to call bull**** on this. Most of the weapons came from Zone PC because Brian (SayianOozaru) uploaded literally hundreds of weapons that were never used and iZone is most likely using those. Not to mention a recolored Iricia, the Shangri-La overworld (Not Zone PC, but still has some relevance to the point). Pretty much everything iZone has, came from somewhere else on Graal.  

Graphics wise, yes a lot came from pc. Gameplay wise? No. I honestly wish it did tbh. iZone has many things PC Zone does not and that was my point against the rookie, in which he somehow feels that proves his point.