Posted by DMG

Answer this simple question? What created life? I hope you don't say a meteor, if you do what created the meteor? It keeps goung down the chain until the only logical answer is a Divine Creator. Everyone's sense of reality is different, For example a sound that is reality to you does not exist to a def person. Just like how someone who doesn't have faith in God does't exist. Except the fact is the sound is real, but the def person can't hear it. The same thing as God is real, but the unbeliever can't see him because of their lack of faith.

Okay. How does your god exist? What created him? Was there a god before him? Or her? A goddess? Did he will himself into creation?  

Posted by Izarin

Okay. How does your god exist? What created him? Was there a god before him? Or her? A goddess? Did he will himself into creation?

He was there all of time, time is humans perspective of events, God does not exist in time. He is outside of it.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

I understand your point where things like Evolution and the Big Bang are, "leaps of faith" to believe in.

Evolution isn't really a leap of faith, since we have skeletons of different species through evolution, as well as such great technology that we can see similarities at a smaller level.  

Posted by Izarin

Evolution isn't really a leap of faith, since we have skeletons of different species through evolution, as well as such great technology that we can see similarities at a smaller level.

Do you know how many assumptions scientist have made about animals through skeletans? Everytime it is disproved by a different scientist later and they make up a new one. Im not saying all science is bogus but that is.  

Posted by DMG

He was there all of time, time is humans perspective of events, God does not exist in time. He is outside of it.

... Right. That's why I don't like religion. There are laws as we have observed them, constantly, throughout the centuries, such as the laws of physics. But this "God" defies them all.

Posted by DMG

Do you know how many assumptions scientist have made about animals through skeletans? Everytime it is disproved by a different scientist later and they make up a new one. Im not saying all science is bogus but that is.

Skeletons*.... Okay, as someone who used to believe in god... If he's there, why is the world so crappy? Why are people dying of starvation? Why doesn't he turn all the bread into a million more loaves! Give me a decent answer to this, not some "His will is unbeknownst to us all" crap, and I'll stop replying.  

Posted by Izarin

... Right. That's why I don't like religion. There are laws as we have observed them, constantly, throughout the centuries, such as the laws of physics. But this "God" defies them all.

I will put it as simple as this Laws still cannot be proven, drop a pencil,it falls right? Now drop it 10000000 times, you won't so you assume everytime it will fall, but you don't know forsure, thats called faith. Also yes Laws don't apply to God seeing that Laws are manmade.  

We all have our views what we believe is what we believe we will not choose for you. I believe in God but even if somebody doesn't I don't bash them I can be their friends! Those who believe in God should respect the humans weather they believe what you do or not.  

Posted by Izarin

Skeletons*.... Okay, as someone who used to believe in god... If he's there, why is the world so crappy? Why are people dying of starvation? Why doesn't he turn all the bread into a million more loaves! Give me a decent answer to this, not some "His will is unbeknownst to us all" crap, and I'll stop replying.

If you ever read the Bible you would know it is mans own fault, death and sin was not in the world until they sinned. God made us people for a reason he wants us to have a choice to believe in Him, and even if he did that there would still be people who disbelieved. Heaven is where none shall hunger, none shall thirst, none shall perish. There are people who have starved much more than you have, if you have even gone a day yourself. They have gone weeks, yet they still believe in God. If he was so cruel why would they still follow him?

Posted by iHot

We all have our views what we believe is what we believe we will not choose for you. I believe in God but even if somebody doesn't I don't bash them I can be their friends! Those who believe in God should respect the humans weather they believe what you do or not.

If you believe in God you would want to save every neighbor,brother,sister,friend that you have. Typical christians are to afraid or shy to express his word.  

Posted by DMG

If you ever read the Bible you would know it is mans own fault, death and sin was not in the world until they sinned. God made us people for a reason he wants us to have a choice to believe in Him, and even if he did that there would still be people who disbelieved. Heaven is where none shall hunger, none shall thirst, none shall perish. There are people who have starved much more than you have, if you have even gone a day yourself. They have gone weeks, yet they still believe in God. If he was so cruel why would they still follow him?

I've read the bible. Why would he judge us based on one person's mistake? Isn't he all-forgiving? And those people who starve and still believe are like the girls who like abusive boyfriends. At this point, as it's getting late, I'm going to bed. If I remember at some other point, when my head is less fuzzy, I'll come argue some more. Farewell ^^.  

Posted by Izarin

I've read the bible. Why would he judge us based on one person's mistake? Isn't he all-forgiving? And those people who starve and still believe are like the girls who like abusive boyfriends. At this point, as it's getting late, I'm going to bed. If I remember at some other point, when my head is less fuzzy, I'll come argue some more. Farewell ^^.

Alrite I will leave with this last bit, first of all he is not all forgiving, it is up to you to repent not Him, and no for example the christians of Africa are some of the strongest christians I have ever met, BTW witchcraft and dark magic is real, witch doctors have cured people in Africa and cursed people. They have more proof of that than evolution, so that proves that Divine powers is real, start reseacrhing from there and in the end you will find christianity is real.  

Since this thread has turned from "Higbey" to "Religion" (kinda freaking creepy)...

Near death experiences support Christianity  

Life is creepy there are many things you have never seen or even heard about.  

My poor thread  

Posted by Chaotic

My poor thread

I just lmao'd

WILL U FIX MY BUTT  

Posted by Izarin

I've read the bible. Why would he judge us based on one person's mistake? Isn't he all-forgiving? And those people who starve and still believe are like the girls who like abusive boyfriends. At this point, as it's getting late, I'm going to bed. If I remember at some other point, when my head is less fuzzy, I'll come argue some more. Farewell ^^.

Incorrect truly God is most forgiving but if you continusly commit sins God will not forgive you. Example: Bob:I'm sorry I hit my sister god plz forgive me
God will forgive BUT if bob hits his sister and sends her to the hospital the very next day will God forgive you? When you believe in God you make a commitment to be the best at your religion as you can you cannot use God's forgiveness like that THINK.