Posted by MBK

That's what i'm talking about...Graal takes random kids...try to "train" them...and when they are done...they simply leave.It's not a logic bud,it's the truth.
I'm sure you know that "thing" that happened in the gs room...There were 2 admins there.And they actually enjoyed it insted of taking an action.

Just so you know...bitchiness and complaining are 2 completely different things...and i ain't complaining.

Constructive Criticism is a much suited word.

There you go,i replied your whole Post.Happy now.This wasn't a fight to begin with...unless you took it personally.

lol @ calling it "constructive criticism". You've had to censor out your cursing 3 times already.  

Posted by Gitaz

Incase you didn't know, we don't even know who's staff anymore since you removed the sign in the FAQ Kiosk. Therefore, we can't "personally message staff" unless we have them on our friend list, or remember their names from the sign (which was removed, for no reason).

I am aware. Fact is, plenty of people do have staff on their friends list.

Posted by Gitaz

Also, when you PM an admin they rarely respond to you, because they are to busy to 'socialize'...

Oh noooooooo.

Posted by Gitaz

and if truly weren't biased you'd know that the Graal Police system could improve dramatically.

Where did I say it didn't have to be? It's like no one read my original post... I didn't even mention the Police system, I simply said people don't really appreciate what Graal offers with the upload system as much as they should.

He's the one complaining about something completely unrelated, and I simply asked him to provide proof. Like I said, most of the time people complaining about bans leave out stuff at their convenience to make them seem like they're innocent. Most of the time they are not.  

Posted by Dusty

I am aware. Fact is, plenty of people do have staff on their friends list.


Oh noooooooo.



Where did I say it didn't have to be? It's like no one read my original post... I didn't even mention the Police system, I simply said people don't really appreciate what Graal offers with the upload system as much as they should.

He's the one complaining about something completely unrelated, and I simply asked him to provide proof. Like I said, most of the time people complaining about bans leave out stuff at their convenience to make them seem like they're innocent. Most of the time they are not.

I think everyone appreciates graal otherwise they wouldn't play it. I'm pretty sure you know, a lot more about graal and the GP system than me. I'm only speaking on behalf of the ones who only play the game, and not being staff members. For all we know, GP's hardly do anything, since now we never know who the new ones are, so they are most likely to not really do anything. Most Graalians only have the older admins added to their account, so as I mentioned above, we never know who the new ones are. Also, I'm sorry for kind of verbally attacking you, I was only trying to speak my mind.

Also, about the "bans" we all know, (it happens on all games) That people sometimes get wrongfully banned, but what Classic does, is never admit to being wrong, and in my opinion they always ban to early and should start utilizing the 'warning' function.  

The newer admins are definitely not as good as the older ones like Ellybelly, Teeds etc, but I don't see how that makes them bad?
After all they're working in their free time to make the gameplay better for you.

I personally think that some of the admins are pricks, but I still appreciate that they're just trying to make the game better even if they make a few mistakes.  

Posted by Blu

The newer admins are definitely not as good as the older ones like Ellybelly, Teeds etc, but I don't see how that makes them bad?
After all they're working in their free time to make the gameplay better for you.

I personally think that some of the admins are pricks, but I still appreciate that they're just trying to make the game better even if they make a few mistakes.

Actually,
the GPs are making my gameplay better, the Developers and GATs are. In my opinion, the new GPs may be fantastic, helpful and have a lot of empathy. Although, they can't really show us that because of the removal of the sign, and the lack of events. They are basically just sitting there answering reports like: "him calls me noob, i very sad want be admin so i can ban or i want hat or i'm going to killmsyelf." Which they probably don't even do anything against, and they shouldn't, but the fact is that they just have a tag, and do some small talk in RC.  

Posted by Gitaz

Actually,
the GPs are making my gameplay better, the Developers and GATs are. In my opinion, the new GPs may be fantastic, helpful and have a lot of empathy. Although, they can't really show us that because of the removal of the sign, and the lack of events. They are basically just sitting there answering reports like: "him calls me noob, i very sad want be admin so i can ban or i want hat or i'm going to killmsyelf." Which they probably don't even do anything against, and they shouldn't, but the fact is that they just have a tag, and do some small talk in RC.

touché  

Posted by Dusty

You're making assumptions, I couldn't care less about being optimistic towards Graal or Classic. I'm very open about what I consider flaws with the game.

Then accept...that the current Admin system is of Classic is big ass con of this game.

Posted by Dusty

Again, no one gets banned for PMing staff, and I highly doubt anyone gets banned for sending too many PMs(unless the staff told them to stop, or the player got disruptive/vulgar). If you have proof I'd love to see it. If these sort of things do happen then they should be dealt with... but most of the time when a player complains about unjust bans they always conveniently leave out the side of the story where they actually do break rules.

I sadly donot have any proof.All i can do is to just pick up the flaws and report them anywhere so it would be highlighted for the Adminstators.I won't get anything for posting wrong Accusations.Classic got alot of pros...but even more cons.


But they just donot want to accept it.They always got an excuse up their sleeves and just pin it all on the players.

Posted by Dusty

I've heard plenty of horror stories about WoW support. Also, WoW doesn't even allow players to personally message staff in-game... you have to send a support e-mail. It's one of those things players take for granted... being able to have a direct line of communication with staff. Then they feel entitled that staff should have to respond to them personally instead of them using proper forms of support like e-mails. Every player thinks their problem is more important than every other player.

personal messging admins in graal doesn't affect i the least possible way..."I can't do anything about it."..."you should as another admin."..."idk"...*no reply*....that's all people mostly get (unless it's a quetion like "How do i change my status background color").

I send a ticket to toonslab a few months back (i was banned for cussing)...i accepted my fault.I was banned for 2500 hours i think.

I checked my ticket status everyday...On the last day(around 20 hours left)...it got viewed and it only said "We will look into it"(or something like that).So i didn't got anything for sending a dumb ticket.They just made me wait out for the ban to end.

Posted by Coco88

lol @ calling it "constructive criticism". You've had to censor out your cursing 3 times already.

I'm poitning out the flaws for them..it's obviously a constructive criticism.I'm doing it so they coukd improve the gameplay.It's quite valueble for this type of game...only if anyone pays heed to it (which i srsly doubt.)

What has cursing to do with constructive criticism?  

Posted by MBK

I send a ticket to toonslab a few months back (i was banned for cussing)...i accepted my fault.I was banned for 2500 hours i think.

I checked my ticket status everyday...On the last day(around 20 hours left)...it got viewed and it only said "We will look into it"(or something like that).So i didn't got anything for sending a dumb ticket.They just made me wait out for the ban to end.

I agree with your ticket thing, sending tickets is useless. 99% of the time they don't do anything.
I also think the admin who gave the punishment should read the ticket, not someone who wasn't there.  

is this a game of constructive crictism?
cause il fight you all.

Im i too young for big bang theory  

No! Don't criticize the game and it's aspects. Remember what happen to Demrow? Banned for who knows how long.  

Posted by Bryan*

No! Don't criticize the game and it's aspects. Remember what happen to Demrow? Banned for who knows how long.

I would really love to see them explaining the Demrow **** they did.  

I think the GP's are doing fine, although the rise in bans I'm not a fan of. I haven't seen "I just got warned" from a player in a good while and just knowing that anything you do that could be mild could lead to a 2000 hour ban is scary as hell. I know of a player that recently got banned for uploading an Osama Bin Laden head, no idea how long but I do know that the head shouldn't have been accepted in the first place which leads to the question "What are the GP's focusing on more than their job?". If they had seen the head they could have denied it, except they accepted it and it lasted for about 2 days till it was removed and the player was banned.  

Posted by Bryan*

No! Don't criticize the game and it's aspects. Remember what happen to Demrow? Banned for who knows how long.

Posted by MBK

I would really love to see them explaining the Demrow **** they did.

Never even had proof he got banned for it, dude's a compulsive liar glad his forum account is gone as well.

Another example of you guys believing everything you're told  

Posted by Colin

Never even had proof he got banned for it, dude's a compulsive liar glad his forum account is gone as well.

Another example of you guys believing everything you're told

THIS POST DOESN'T SPEAK THE TROTH I FIND LIES LIES IN EVERYTHING LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
did i win.  

Posted by Colin

Never even had proof he got banned for it, dude's a compulsive liar glad his forum account is gone as well.

Another example of you guys believing everything you're told

He did showed us the ban screen.