Posted by McCullough

Alrighty, Thallen, answer me this:

If you have time to sit and chill in the arena for a while, then why don't you become a GP yourself and do the job? What's your excuse for not doing that, if I may ask.

If you just sit in there to gain hours, then forget everything. If not, then what is it?

Adding on, if he's really a great candidate as he claims, he would've been on the team no questions asked. There's always a cost to having a big ego.

I'm expecting a lengthy post with excuses.  

Posted by McCullough

Alrighty, Thallen, answer me this:

If you have time to sit and chill in the arena for a while, then why don't you become a GP yourself and do the job? What's your excuse for not doing that, if I may ask.

If you just sit in there to gain hours, then forget everything. If not, then what is it?

Because of his history, I don't agree with allowing him to be staff tbh. But he is in the same boat as everyone who applies.

History of bans/flags ---> Application rejected  

Posted by Red

if the staff would look at applications and not let mongoloids and unqualified ******s do nothing but **** post on a forum then I'm sure we'd have a staff team in no time!

Hire these people:
Bryan/Zicknex/Michael (pking)
Fulgore(I know he quit the gp team but he was good) (spar)
Kosiris/Sugar/Sarah (different timezones, spar and pking)
Jordini (I know hes gfx staff but let him monitor bk) (bking)
The R0ller (bking)

Also why do you allow people like Leah to make mistakes then say "they won't make that mistake again" only to have them make another mistake and end up using the same excuse over and over and over again.

Just find someone else to do the persons job there are other people who would fit that position nicely.

I don't see how hiring is a problem, you manage to find these terrible staff in those applications...right?

ok wow where to begin.

Applications are looked at all the time. the reason not everyone who applies gets hired is because, obviously, not everyone is qualified. Just because someone spars a lot and/or has been around a while doesn't suddenly make them qualified. There can be all kinds of reason why someone isn't hired. Keep in mind the people that are hired are getting tools that can make or break the game, so we can't just give it to anyone. It's a very delicate process that we have to take seriously, because these are the people that are not only going to keep the peace and enforce the rules but also represent the server. Even when we do carefully hire people, we still get wackjobs occasionally. even the more sane, normal, and nicest-seeming person and the world can let the power get to their head and/or let emotions get the best of them and abuse such power.

As for Leah, she's the only person that I hired that's actually stuck around this long and hasn't done anything stupid, so maybe you all should back off. People make mistakes sometimes. Even I have made my fair share of mistake throughout the years. Deal with it. We've had people way worse that were taken care of accordingly. It's pretty freaking hard to find people like her and Jarace and Dread, so I would take my word for it as I have been in such a position before, unlike most of you all.

Don't forget we hire from players within the game that volunteer. Most of the people we hire are ages 16+ and therefore are in school or busy with more important things in their lives and don't have time to sit around all day and stare at their screens in the battle arena. I'm sure even if we did hire a sparrer, he/she also wouldn't have the time to sit and stare at their screen all day because again, having sparring experience doesn't make you more qualified than someone without it. GPs have an entire world to monitor. People are hacking/glitching/breaking rules all over the place that they have to deal with and no one seems to say anything about that, but oh god if something happens in the battle arena everyone goes absolutely insane and starts saying GPs aren't doing their jobs. Get over yourself. GPs aren't machines and can only do so much at a time. Hackers get taken care of so stop freaking out when it doesn't get taken care of immediately as soon as it happens because that isn't always possible.  

[QUOTE=Red;765441]Because of his history, I don't agree with allowing him to be staff tbh. But he is in the same boat as everyone who applies.

History of bans/flags ---> Application rejected

Yeah, thought so. Anyway you aren't wrong about the application.
[QUOTE]  

Posted by Coco

lol I like how you guys talk about hiring new GPs like it's so easy.

hire me  

Posted by McCullough

quoting issue so removed the text here

Posted by Red

Because of his history, I don't agree with allowing him to be staff tbh. But he is in the same boat as everyone who applies.

History of bans/flags ---> Application rejected

Talked a bit about this and other issues here.

Spent a lot of time answering questions in that thread, so it might be worth giving Dread's posts and my posts there a read. We tried our best to cover any issues people brought up with the staff team.  

Posted by McCullough

Alrighty, Thallen, answer me this:

If you have time to sit and chill in the arena for a while, then why don't you become a GP yourself and do the job? What's your excuse for not doing that, if I may ask?

If you just sit in there to gain hours, then forget everything. If not, then what is it?

Because they only hire good GPs like Soren, Raina, Andromeda, Yuri, etc. I've filled out that joke of an application in the past, as have many others who can actually help the game.

I also have zero interest in being staff now that I've committed to leading a guild. Playing the game is a whole lot more fun than picking up the slack of people who can't do simple tasks properly.  

Posted by Coco

As for Leah, she's the only person that I hired that's actually stuck around this long and hasn't done anything stupid, so maybe you all should back off.

get the **** outta here with that, that is bull**** and you know it.

You hired soren, yuri, raina (who were all abusive and stupid) and allowed them to continue on as staff, they literally gave event hats to people for free and abused their warp tools to benefit themselves and others. I was told to "kill self" from yuri on multiple occasions and soren warped me away from sards multiple times. Raina gave multiple people event hats and gave people access to her staff account.

Not saying Leah has made these mistakes at all, that'd be stupid for me to say. But I'm saying the amount of weird and untimely mistakes she's made in the past 3 months is hard to ignore and using the excuse "it wont happen again" everytime is insane.

Can you at least change the application and consider hiring people with actual experience with in game mechanics and gameplay. Why hire a gp who has little no experience when you can hire somebody with little to no experience who has tower knowledge, game mechanic knowledge and the general "known" rules down pat.

Andromeda recently allowed dark to access her staff account and **** around on it and I'm sure that is a means to fire somebody and ban the player who used her staff account (no idea if shes been punished but it gives a random person access to admin tools because of the staff accounts permissions.)

Posted by Jarace

Talked a bit about this and other issues here.

Spent a lot of time answering questions in that thread, so it might be worth giving Dread's posts and my posts there a read. We tried our best to cover any issues people brought up with the staff team.

Why can you not change it around? is it out of your hands?  

Posted by Red

get the **** outta here with that, that is bull**** and you know it

Andromeda recently allowed dark to access her staff account and **** around on it and I'm sure that is a means to fire somebody and ban the player who used her staff account (no idea if shes been punished but it gives a random person access to admin tools because of the staff accounts permissions.)

That is true, Dark has had personal issues with certain people these days and those persons are suddenly banned. And Andromeda suddenly were online and offline at the same time.

And Jarace when you were pmed me about this and nobody had any intention to annoy you with the pm, then you blocked the person.

Just saying, for an admin with good reputation and actively replying that was a bit careless :/  

Posted by Red

get the **** outta here with that, that is bull**** and you know it.

Whelp. That's enough to know there's obviously no talking to you.  

Posted by Jimbo

That is true, Dark has had personal issues with certain people these days and those persons are suddenly banned. And Andromeda suddenly were online and offline at the same time.

And Jarace when you were pmed me about this and nobody had any intention to annoy you with the pm, then you blocked the person.

Just saying, for an admin with good reputation and actively replying that was a bit careless :/

I think you took what I said the wrong way, to say dark is using andromeda to ban people is stupid. All I'm saying is she actively allowed him to use her staff account and as far as I know hasn't been punished for it.  

Posted by Red

get the **** outta here with that, that is bull**** and you know it.

You hired soren, yuri, raina (who were all abusive and stupid) and allowed them to continue on as staff, they literally gave event hats to people for free and abused their warp tools to benefit themselves and others. I was told to "kill self" from yuri on multiple occasions and soren warped me away from sards multiple times. Raina gave multiple people event hats and gave people access to her staff account.

Not saying Leah has made these mistakes at all, that'd be stupid for me to say. But I'm saying the amount of weird and untimely mistakes she's made in the past 3 months is hard to ignore and using the excuse "it wont happen again" everytime is insane.

Can you at least change the application and consider hiring people with actual experience with in game mechanics and gameplay. Why hire a gp who has little no experience when you can hire somebody with little to no experience who has tower knowledge, game mechanic knowledge and the general "known" rules down pat.

Andromeda recently allowed dark to access her staff account and **** around on it and I'm sure that is a means to fire somebody and ban the player who used her staff account (no idea if shes been punished but it gives a random person access to admin tools because of the staff accounts permissions.)



Why can you not change it around? is it out of your hands?

Considering you only named about four of the probably hundred or more people that have been Graal Police, I'd say we're doing pretty alright.

Let's take a look at the fates of the people you have very justified complaints about. We can both agree that some of the things they did were not acceptable:
Soren: fired, Yuri: fired. Raina: long gone. Seems like they were all caught and dealt with?

Andromeda did not allow Dark to access her account. It was something I looked into and the results were conclusive that this was not the case. It's just as ridiculous as people who claim they were banned for calling a staff member "hawt" in pms once, probably more so.

The application itself is simply to introduce the applicant to us. There is much more to the process, and we do take a look at them in more detail if the application proves they can speak English and act like an adult.

I could easily tell you why we aren't hiring a specific person, but I won't because then I would be just as bad as the people above. And we don't hire people with "no game experience". You see one or two you don't like and assume that is the case for all of them - which simply isn't true.

As I said in the other posts, the application may not be perfect, but I feel it does a decent job at what I need it to do.

I can understand some of your concerns, but I wish people would take more time to understand that not everything posted here by players is credible - most of it isn't.

I haven't been GPA for too long so I can't vouch for the decisions of past ones. I promise you that I am working to resolve many of the concerns that I see and agree are reasonable. You will see evidence of this in coming days and months.

Posted by Jimbo

That is true, Dark has had personal issues with certain people these days and those persons are suddenly banned. And Andromeda suddenly were online and offline at the same time.

And Jarace when you were pmed me about this and nobody had any intention to annoy you with the pm, then you blocked the person.

Just saying, for an admin with good reputation and actively replying that was a bit careless :/

I only block people who are spamming me or swearing at me, and even then I usually just ignore it.  

Problem with Darkk though is he is constantly telling people Andromeda will do stuff for him, and uses her name to threaten people, so you can't be too sure what is truthful and what's not.

I would still look into it though because a player who Darkk was having problems with, Darkk somehow had his private messages and were showing them around to make fun of him (and the receiving person too).

I understand that hacking and cheating occurs all around and I don't think they are saying it doesn't but rather spar is just their main focus so you often hear them voice it more than other aspects and because right now towering is dead-content so less people there to be complaining about hackers (which will be a thing come NGS for sure).

Cheating in spar is something that is really common now and that is why people react like this, it's just completely ruining the fun for them and this isn't the first time the streak has been lost to a hacker which really sucks to the people who achieved it beforehand.

I understand completely where you are coming from on the staff end but you also have to understand where people are coming from on the player end, especially those who have been involved with competitive aspects for years. It may seem like they are over voicing them selves and being condescending but it's kind of hard not to be when something you've spent so long doing is being ruined by cheaters with no real fix at the current time.

Think Jarace is doing a really good job with how he handles situations and conducts him self so having him as GPA is a good step going into the future.

Another good step would be people like Red properly voicing their opinions, it's good to have discussions about this stuff but not gunna get anywhere going the Red route (he updated his post, progress!!!)  

Thanks for the shoutout Red! But I'd have to say the current GP team isn't bad. What's destroying their reputation is the lack of being online during the most traffic. It'd be nice if they were able to access their admin accounts via iDev, probably would make it easier for them to be online. Other than that, some aren't good at their jobs, some exceed expectations.

Spoiler

In regards to the application, it's very bland. Use Ol'West's application as a reference.

In addition to the hackers, it sucks but GP's have no rule over them. Unless Dusty can whip out an auto-bot to ban these idiots, they'll just keep coming back. It's like a damn plague.

My two cents.  

Posted by Jarace

As I said in the other posts, the application may not be perfect, but I feel it does a decent job at what I need it to do.

It's terrible. You tell me what's more important as a first hurdle: getting cookie-cutter answers out of players with some weird personality test, or putting them in situations that they'll actually be in as a GP and seeing how they'd handle it with no training or experience. You know you can gauge how well someone's English and maturity level is with the latter too, right?

It's so easy to BS through that application and it's setting you up to hire people who seem "nice" rather than people who can do the job properly. These are the types of questions you can Google to get good answers to. You can't do that with questions that are specific to Graal or being GP.