Posted by GenoIndeed

What are you talking about, no ones been holding anything with just one person. And if one person can hold a base, that probably means their oppenents just suck. But no, thats completely false saying one person can hold a base all day. Do you even base?

And yeah basing does need to be redone, but not with the mindset youre approaching it with

I can hold a base by myself actually. It's called spring

****ing get rid of that awful base already.  

Posted by GenoIndeed

What are you talking about, no ones been holding anything with just one person. And if one person can hold a base, that probably means their oppenents just suck. But no, thats completely false saying one person can hold a base all day. Do you even base?

And yeah basing does need to be redone, but not with the mindset youre approaching it with

wot if we have 4 skybases again. do 40 sec. renovate gem so it's like super big(imo gem should be an easy defending base. now thats aries. gem is like a fortress, but its pretty ewy inside. give that a full minute. keep aqua and aries. give em 50 sec. get rid of iricia(game wise) and turn the level into like wot it was when there were 5 solo bases. JP disabled still(1 did 30. others do 10). den fix spring/add different maps so its not repetitive every round. Personally I do feel that Spring and Iricia are simply AFK bases. More bases should be ineractive and require people to always be alert. Things like skybases and old iricia did that. Get rid of conq. A perfectly good map was wasted wid conq. Conq just became Spring/Iricia V2 whenever no one was attacking it.


Nb4 someone says "too many bases", most people that will own iricia will take all 5 and hold it for a total of like 1:10 minutes/sec but its hard to defend all, most skybasing squads always take 2 at least, aries and aqua wouldnt be giving full minutes, gem remains the same, den spring would be the same too. This set up actually gives less hours in total than our current one, more interaction, and overall I would like it more. And I'm skt. u do as i say k.

You noobs went off topic so I just followed. Mk.


Oh and maybe we can give sangue back to me. thanks.  

Yeah if anything, spring needs the most work. All the bases still do need work tho

Back on topic, again, i feel the prize for 5k if this change is final, needs to be both a gun and melee skin, the gun alone doesnt seem like much and there's no harm in adding the melee too, itd be worth the basing time, and that means more active players  

I agree with Geno about the 5k squad reward. It is kinda worth the hardwork and time dedicated to it. So how many members should get it? 25 pls <3  

Posted by GenoIndeed

Yeah if anything, spring needs the most work. All the bases still do need work tho

Back on topic, again, i feel the prize for 5k if this change is final, needs to be both a gun and melee skin, the gun alone doesnt seem like much and there's no harm in adding the melee too, itd be worth the basing time, and that means more active players

Na. I feel like that's too much. 2 things? Na.

Because let's face it. A melee and gun skins aren't just skins. They are essentially new weapons. A gun is fine. Obs based for 10k for a gun. Did you hear any of them complaining?

And Mr. @Unknown, na. 20. That or obs noobs will get salty. Stare decisis. Let the decision stand.

JS but even for NAL 10K the prize was just a mount. They coulda easily gotten another hat too because "no harm" would be done and the difference between 5k and 10k is much more strenuous.

Shhh to anyone saying "BUT 50 PEOPLE GOT IT" mk. Hush. Because that's wrong it was 48. Huehuehue. But again, 10k is a much greater step.  

Posted by GenoIndeed

Yeah if anything, spring needs the most work. All the bases still do need work tho

Back on topic, again, i feel the prize for 5k if this change is final, needs to be both a gun and melee skin, the gun alone doesnt seem like much and there's no harm in adding the melee too, itd be worth the basing time, and that means more active players

Like I said, the change isn't final. But we are about to conclude our talks about it. New system should be announced after our weekly meeting and the staff voting on it  

Obs gun skin wasent the pleasing to the eye looks like a different remake of photon, why won't the gun and melee have certain stats since they are special rewards for squads so when squads reach that 5k mark there will be no complaining over what gun to put the skin over just my opinion

25 should get include the maker since it's a long jump between 1000hrs to 5000hrs  

Posted by Howler Wulfskie

Obs gun skin wasent the pleasing to the eye looks like a different remake of photon, why won't the gun and melee have certain stats since they are special rewards for squads so when squads reach that 5k mark there will be no complaining over what gun to put the skin over just my opinion

Because no one wants you to have customizable weapon stats. There's no point in making stats for a weapon when it can be used for any gun. I'm pretty sure squads would much rather choose what weapon to get the skin for, rather than being stuck with crappy holiday weapon stats.  

The obs skin now wasn't the original one, the original one was orange and black, had a decent design. Idk why dragun went and changed it to the current one tho.

And nah, customizable stats would be better off on a new gun, i think the most the gun skins should get is maybe 4 extra bullets in the clip, any other changes will affect gameplay and we can't have that. The custom melee should be up to the same stats as the lone dual blade (which is the best store melee so far) and since melees dont have to follow as strict as a ruleset as guns and that there aren't many store melees, the melee can be whatever design the squad wants. I think this is the best it can go without affecting gameplay balance. I also feel auras should be allowed with the customization, and a gani to put on your back, there's no harm in allowing these.  

Posted by GenoIndeed

And nah, customizable stats would be better off on a new gun, i think the most the gun skins should get is maybe 4 extra bullets in the clip, any other changes will affect gameplay and we can't have that. The custom melee should be up to the same stats as the lone dual blade (which is the best store melee so far) and since melees dont have to follow as strict as a ruleset as guns and that there aren't many store melees, the melee can be whatever design the squad wants. I think this is the best it can go without affecting gameplay balance. I also feel auras should be allowed with the customization, and a gani to put on your back, there's no harm in allowing these.

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Posted by PigParty

Because no one wants you to have customizable weapon stats. There's no point in making stats for a weapon when it can be used for any gun. I'm pretty sure squads would much rather choose what weapon to get the skin for, rather than being stuck with crappy holiday weapon stats.

I doubt since technically it's a new gun and it's from basing so it should have basing like stats, and it's for all 5k weapon not just 1 so it can be reused for other 5k stats, and customizable I don't think I said it can be customized from the player staff do the stats for it, and let's ask December since his squad is one of the closes to the reward if he rather have a skin for a gun or a set stat for a basing reward his squad worked for, and p.s I said my opinion

And plus all the stats are messed up right now so it's hard to set a gun skin as of now until later  

I don't think they'll make it a new gun with new stats, because of course you'll choose the best stats, who wouldn't lol, so it could seem unbalanced. If they took into consideration the best gun, lets say rail, and then maybe make the damage the same or one less and then the speed a bit slower, then maybe they'll accept that, otherwise it would be op compared to the other players guns. However i 100% agree that you should make new ganis/auras as then it gives the reward more value to it, rather than just a change of colour to the gun.

idk about the melee tho. It'll most likely be a skin so won't be anything special really, like a new gun that is not op.  

Posted by Chelterrar

We needed to draw a line somewhere. With the ability for guilds to hold towers with 1(!) member all day, it is super easy to gain hours. So that's the first step of the tower rebalance update

We don't have guilds or towers, we have squads and bases

I think the gun skin should simply be a skin, meaning that the leader decides which gun everyone is forced to have to give it a different skin. It's called "gun skin" for a reason.  

Actually the way the gun skins are done here are made as a completely different gun/script, which is why i suggested the slight boost in stats and extra ganis  

Posted by Howler Wulfskie

I doubt since technically it's a new gun and it's from basing so it should have basing like stats, and it's for all 5k weapon not just 1 so it can be reused for other 5k stats, and customizable I don't think I said it can be customized from the player staff do the stats for it, and let's ask December since his squad is one of the closes to the reward if he rather have a skin for a gun or a set stat for a basing reward his squad worked for, and p.s I said my opinion

And plus all the stats are messed up right now so it's hard to set a gun skin as of now until later

Decisions aren't made based on what December or other players want. Other players also want free items. It's not gonna happen, though. If there were set stats for the 5k reward, they would be complete garbage. They would be set to holiday stats most likely and then everyone would complain. I'm pretty sure everyone would much rather have a skin for a gun they'll actually use, rather than an entire new gun with average stats.