iDevice vs Mix GST (Which one has more competition) - 5

Thallen · 12-04-2015

Any team with a high number of delayers could probably take wins off of Apostles and BO, delay is just hard and frustrating to play against
The right mix of iDevices can probably get wins on Alumni Mixed too, I don't think they'd be able to win a series but they might get a few wins

I think GTEAM and SL are pretty beatable though, so I could see VIS, CRZ, and other teams beating them

qes · 12-05-2015

idevice always has more teams competing (= more competition) so ya... its an undisputed FACT idev has more competitors aka more competition.
maybe this forum meant which gst has more skill? in which case it would be mixed because the top mixed teams would beat the top idevice teams (not crush them, but win)
but there are idevice players who always carry their team who i think could be as important of a core on a mixed team. Like sarah/noss/shadz/maybe a few others I'm missing could probably handle mixed tournament

HmongtheSecond · 12-05-2015

I see stiffness when I look in that mixed division. Slow, stiff, I feel like they're stuck in the mud almost.

Thallen · 12-05-2015

Posted by HmongtheSecond

I see stiffness when I look in that mixed division. Slow, stiff, I feel like they're stuck in the mud almost.

GOAT · 12-05-2015

Posted by Fulgore

Stop following that stupid logic that other people put on here. The comparison is made with every player on the device they typically use / best device. The "switch the device" argument has no ground or basis for use, nor does it provide an answer to any of this.

I think you're missing the whole point as to why "lets play on the same device" was even brought up. People can play in whatever device they want, but if they know the playing field is not leveled why would they try to brag about how "skilled" they are compared to other devices. All you have to do is look at all the avg/below average sparers that jumped to PC and became good/pro/ or in aguzo's case "legendary"

All excuses have rebuttals and all rebuttals have rebuttals. Examples:

Iphone user: Spar me with an idevice. Don't hide behind your overpowered PC.
PC user rebuttal: Why would I spar on idevice when I'm better with my PC.
Iphone users rebuttall to PC's rebuttall: This is a 4 direction game with one sword button, how much better can you really be with a PC.
PC users rebuttal to the above rebuttal: idevice screen is to small for my man fingers.

Going back to your statement of wanting to watch top device vs top PC guilds go at it in a tournament. I think it would make the GST 10 times better, but (here comes the big BUT) what is the point of doing that if they're not in even terms?

Here lies the big problem to this scenario and why it won't happen. If you ask me, an average PC will outperform the most recent devices, so I can only imagine what a PC/Laptop prepared for gaming will do. AND don't worry about telling me I'm wrong I know why you could never admit that or agree with it. By admitting that, in your head you will think it's like admitting that you're an average sparer and only became good because of your PC. Look, I give aguzo credit, he tried to prove me wrong by sparring with his idevice, but he will tell you he wasn't able to beat players he could beat with his PC.

rickclops · 12-06-2015

Most people are better on whichever system they started on.

It would be nice to have one GST sometimes, instead of split.

I think the early round idev teams are far far easier than the early round mixed teams. During the last few season the teams we beat in early rounds were good teams.

iDev will forever have the noobiest noobs as phone Graal gets new players far more than facebook Graal.

GotenGraal · 12-06-2015

Posted by rickclops

Most people are better on whichever system they started on.

It would be nice to have one GST sometimes, instead of split.

I think the early round idev teams are far far easier than the early round mixed teams. During the last few season the teams we beat in early rounds were good teams.

iDev will forever have the noobiest noobs as phone Graal gets new players far more than facebook Graal.

What are u even talking about? The majority of teams in both tournaments are noobs. iDevice obviously has more noob teams cause of the extra 32 teams that can enter.

GOAT · 12-06-2015

Posted by rickclops

Most people are better on whichever system they started on.

How can you know that? You would have to know which players actually tried other devices.

My opinion is that the majority of people that went from idevice to PC were like"hell yaz im more pro with my pc, now i will be a legendary sparer" and made the full transition. The people that went from PC to idevice were like "wtf man i suck on idevice, screw this" and went back to PC.

Baseless opinions since we don't know who has tried what. The only thing I can point out as "evidence" is all those idevice traitors

How many traitors has PC had? :wink:

LONG LIVE iGRAAL!!!!lol

Zetectic · 12-06-2015

Posted by GOAT

All excuses have rebuttals and all rebuttals have rebuttals. Examples:

Iphone user: Spar me with an idevice. Don't hide behind your overpowered PC.
PC user rebuttal: Why would I spar on idevice when I'm better with my PC.
Iphone users rebuttall to PC's rebuttall: This is a 4 direction game with one sword button, how much better can you really be with a PC.
PC users rebuttal to the above rebuttal: idevice screen is to small for my man fingers.

wb to classic forum goat bae
pc users : smh i still beat u on idev
pc users : idev u lag n delay n freeze
pc users : get on pc, i'd still pwn u ezzzz
pc users : #pcmasterrace

GOAT · 12-06-2015

Posted by Zetectic

wb to classic forum goat bae
pc users : smh i still beat u on idev
pc users : idev u lag n delay n freeze
pc users : get on pc, i'd still pwn u ezzzz
pc users : #pcmasterrace

PC user: If I'm on an uneven playing field why don't you even the field by jumping on a PC.
iPhone user: This is a mobile game noob, as in phones and tablets.
PC user: This became a integrated game when the FB server was launched.
iPhone user: well you're still old as sh1t to be playing graal noob.

PC user: If I'm on an uneven playing field why don't you even the field by jumping on a PC.
iPhone user: I'm 15 noob I don't live in my dads basement and spend all my minimum wage money on my gaming PC.
PC user: not my fault you're poor.
iPhone user: your mom is so fat she sat on a dollar and made buggers come out Washington's nose. lol owned :noob: BLOCKED

Vic · 12-06-2015

Posted by rickclops

Most people are better on whichever system they started on.

I'm statistically better at sparring on pc but I feel more comfortable on my phone, which is what I started with and have played with for years.

Zetectic · 12-06-2015

Posted by GOAT

PC user: If I'm on an uneven playing field why don't you even the field by jumping on a PC.
iPhone user: This is a mobile game noob, as in phones and tablets.
PC user: This became a integrated game when the FB server was launched.
iPhone user: well you're still old as sh1t to be playing graal noob.

PC user: If I'm on an uneven playing field why don't you even the field by jumping on a PC.
iPhone user: I'm 15 noob I don't live in my dads basement and spend all my minimum wage money on my gaming PC.
PC user: not my fault you're poor.
iPhone user: your mom is so fat she sat on a dollar and made buggers come out Washington's nose. lol owned :noob: BLOCKED

then iphone user lose another 3 spars and rage quit or changes the room

ggggg

GOAT · 12-06-2015

Posted by Zetectic

then iphone user lose another 3 spars and rage quit or changes the room

ggggg

OR they turn into fulgore and aguzo

and become legendary sparers

David M. · 12-06-2015

iDev > PC because with iDev you can just lay down chillen watch some tv unlike them PC tryhards!

Fulgore · 12-06-2015

Posted by GOAT

OR they turn into fulgore and aguzo

and become legendary sparers

Ok to be fair, I don't even know if it was because I was bad on idev, or just bad in general at the time that I switched. I had just got done being a slave for VG for 7k of their fort hours and I was still pretty much a noob. The reason I had switched (true story here) is I saw how dominant people like Ares and Prado were at the time, and like any noob would I pmed them asking how to get better at spar. I kid you not, they replied with "use pc" and so I naturally followed their advice. Based on this I think I was PC before I ever really got good at spar, so it could be what you're saying, or it could be I just got good in general and was playing PC, and I don't think it will ever really be clear. I hope you enjoyed my spar backstory!

Poll Results: Which GST tournament has more competition?
51.11%	iDevice
48.89%	Mix
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

12-04-2015	61
Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	Any team with a high number of delayers could probably take wins off of Apostles and BO, delay is just hard and frustrating to play against The right mix of iDevices can probably get wins on Alumni Mixed too, I don't think they'd be able to win a series but they might get a few wins I think GTEAM and SL are pretty beatable though, so I could see VIS, CRZ, and other teams beating them

12-05-2015	62
qes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 732	idevice always has more teams competing (= more competition) so ya... its an undisputed FACT idev has more competitors aka more competition. maybe this forum meant which gst has more skill? in which case it would be mixed because the top mixed teams would beat the top idevice teams (not crush them, but win) but there are idevice players who always carry their team who i think could be as important of a core on a mixed team. Like sarah/noss/shadz/maybe a few others I'm missing could probably handle mixed tournament

12-05-2015	63
HmongtheSecond Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: my momma basement Posts: 63	I see stiffness when I look in that mixed division. Slow, stiff, I feel like they're stuck in the mud almost.

12-06-2015	66
rickclops Studying for graalians Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Seattle Posts: 304	Most people are better on whichever system they started on. It would be nice to have one GST sometimes, instead of split. I think the early round idev teams are far far easier than the early round mixed teams. During the last few season the teams we beat in early rounds were good teams. iDev will forever have the noobiest noobs as phone Graal gets new players far more than facebook Graal.

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David M. ~David M. Join Date: May 2013 Location: At the gym Posts: 416	iDev > PC because with iDev you can just lay down chillen watch some tv unlike them PC tryhards!