again please delete the layer 3 furniture glow. Or make it an option; it looks bad when some pieces of furniture are glowing out of all the other furniture that are not.  

Posted by Weeno

again please delete the layer 3 furniture glow. Or make it an option; it looks bad when some pieces of furniture are glowing out of all the other furniture that are not.

You don't need to repeat the same thing, your original suggestion is still there. And we don't have control of how layers work, what you players get with layers are what the staff have to deal with when dealing with layers and development. We simply gave the players the ability to change them as well.  

Posted by Dusty

You don't need to repeat the same thing, your original suggestion is still there. And we don't have control of how layers work, what you players get with layers are what the staff have to deal with when dealing with layers and development. We simply gave the players the ability to change them as well.

Im assuming that's why a layer -1 isn't a possibility either... Bummer, but nothing that you can do about that. thanks for being up front about it  

Posted by Areo

Im assuming that's why a layer -1 isn't a possibility either... Bummer, but nothing that you can do about that. thanks for being up front about it

To elaborate on layers, this is how they work:

There are 4 layers, layer 0-3. Technically there are more layers but anything on layer > 3 will be rendered as a HUD element(think your heart display and such).
Layers are mostly prioritized by their value. So layer 2 will always draw over layer 1, and layer 1 over layer 0 and so on. If an object is on the same layer then they are prioritized by their position. The object A is higher up in the level, it will be drawn under object B if it is lower down in the level. However, "position" is determined by Object.y + Object.height. So it's actually whether the object's bottom-most position is higher or not. This simulates depth, for example if you are behind a table the table will draw over you if you are "behind" it.

Layer 0 : the lowest layer. Will always draw under the player. This is used for things such as carpets, or objects you don't wish to "fight" to draw over the player.

Layer 1: this is the default layer. Every object defaults to this unless told otherwise, including players. Since there is only one layer lower than this, it's a bit troublesome to make things draw under the player but also over things such as carpets.

Layer 2: not much to say about this one. Higher than the default layer 1 and lower than layer 3.

Layer 3: the highest layer available. This is also known as the "light" layer, because objects on this layer a drawn over Graal's default night effect. Classic doesn't use that for house darkness, but Classic's darkness effect is drawn on layer 3. This is why objects "glow" if you put them on layer 3, they are fighting the darkness for priority. Typically when developing we reserve this layer for light effects, so they look much brighter in the darkness.

There is more to determining what objects get drawn over other objects, such as Z height. But that's not really something we can implement flexibly into the furniture system. It is used in many pieces of furniture to force priority, but because of the way this is handled it needs to be on a per-script-basis.  

Posted by Dusty

This is why objects "glow" if you put them on layer 3, they are fighting the darkness for priority. Typically when developing we reserve this layer for light effects, so they look much brighter in the darkness.

Snicker...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leYc4oC83E

Posted by Dusty

There is more to determining what objects get drawn over other objects, such as Z height. But that's not really something we can implement flexibly into the furniture system. It is used in many pieces of furniture to force priority, but because of the way this is handled it needs to be on a per-script-basis.

Is that why chairs placed in certain areas of carpets (both at 0 layer) appear above, yet when placed in other areas they disappear underneath?

Thanks for the explanation either way.  

Here is a minor suggestion- fix the lag issues. It's been terrible  

I think this is pretty simple. Add an out button for your own house. I like testing my mazes but I don't want to always unstick myself  

Posted by Weeno

I think this is pretty simple. Add an out button for your own house. I like testing my mazes but I don't want to always unstick myself

Or make /out work in your house as well  

Platform furniture that you can walk on, regardless if you are in the abyss areas of your house. Let's players create more rooms. Also, wall furniture that looks just like the house one's.  

Posted by Aguzo

Platform furniture that you can walk on, regardless if you are in the abyss areas of your house. Let's players create more rooms. Also, wall furniture that looks just like the house one's.

PLEEEEEAAASEEEE  

I don't play classic as i used to but i would really like an shop that you can sell Any style of trees for example Pines, Dead trees, Apple trees, Orange Tress idk any kind to give houses more decorations or details to them.  

when will the bees can be farmed again?  

Posted by sunstop2002

when will the bees can be farmed again?

Supposedly you can catch them now. I haven't had much luck, though (as in haven't got one due to latency). I think (not sure) that the bees don't appear when you blow up a bush with a bomb at this point - so you can try using sword or eating the bushes with your mount.

However, if you are looking to make some fast cash try farming or looting now. And pyrats. Bees is a waste of effort.

Posted by Aguzo

Platform furniture that you can walk on, regardless if you are in the abyss areas of your house. Let's players create more rooms. Also, wall furniture that looks just like the house one's.

Something that overrides the terrain in a level might be cool. The issue I would foresee is that it might be set to 'zero level' and thus building on it would be hampered... just appearance wise. It still would be a poor solution compared to introducing a blank grass area to the house layouts.


While posting here, I might as well ask...

Can we see a waterfall furniture item and maybe some rock-bordered pond tiles to go with it so that there are more options than the 'portable pool' for creating water features in houses? Thanks.

OH and a retro-fit for the wooden fences to make them sizable like all the present-day new-fangled fences?  

Let people check others' latency/lag/ms
Like on UN  

Make stuff like 'Showrps' display the score/stat/number that is called up to other players in overhead chat (sorta like your showlag).