Posted by Latte

If it's "all that matters", then I assume there isn't a negative ending for "genuinely convincing themselves" that they're a different orientation?

You are the only one talking about how it ends.

Posted by Latte

My entire response was about people being unable to change their sexual interests; my examples were related instances of that.

I have related instances that prove otherwise.

Posted by Latte

Your point was that people act gay or straight if they were raised to believe that was the norm. But people don't just changed an entire lifestyle because "that's not what they were raised around". Usually, people stick with the values of how they were raised. But sexuality is a different kind of preference.

No, my point was that a person's sexual interests-- like any other interests will change based upon their experiences. Sexuality is not something different from any other preference when it comes down to it.

Try replacing any synonymous word for gay with a color.
"I was born liking red."
"Lately I've been really getting into red, it seems so much more exciting than blue."
"My whole life I thought I liked the color red, but now I feel like purple is a much superior color."  

Posted by MrSimons

You are the only one talking about how it ends.

I have related instances that prove otherwise.

No, my point was that a person's sexual interests-- like any other interests will change based upon their experiences. Sexuality is not something different from any other preference when it comes down to it.

Try replacing any synonymous word for gay with a color.
"I was born liking red."
"Lately I've been really getting into red, it seems so much more exciting than blue."
"My whole life I thought I liked the color red, but now I feel like purple is a much superior color."

The source for your entire arguement is literally tumblr. And sexuality isn't liking a color, or any other preference; it's being taken as a bigger deal because people have rights taken away from them because of whether or not they're gay. People are bullied, and commit suicide because they're gay. If it could be a preference that they could change over time, many would do that.

Exploring your sexuality is normal. But there's a large difference between whats feels "ok" and what feels "just right". But you can't change what feels "just right" to you-- if you could, many would.  

Posted by Latte

The source for your entire arguement is literally tumblr. And sexuality isn't liking a color, or any other preference; it's being taken as a bigger deal because people have rights taken away from them because of whether or not they're gay. People are bullied, and commit suicide because they're gay. If it could be a preference that they could change over time, many would do that.

Exploring your sexuality is normal. But there's a large difference between whats feels "ok" and what feels "just right". But you can't change what feels "just right" to you-- if you could, many would.

And it is a damn good source for my argument, tumblr is loaded with people who have taken interest in homosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality, pansexuality, androsexuality, polysexuality, pomosexuality, sapiosexuality, and any other sexuality that they come up with.

Your argument is based on the effects that society has based on a persons sexuality. My argument is the causes of someones sexuality. You aren't even discussing the same thing as me.

Posted by Kendama

yall shouldnt be arguing about a movie that aint comin out

You shouldn't still be arguing about Ebola.  

Posted by MrSimons

And it is a damn good source for my argument, tumblr is loaded with people who have taken interest in homosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality, pansexuality, androsexuality, polysexuality, pomosexuality, sapiosexuality, and any other sexuality that they come up with.

Your argument is based on the effects that society has based on a persons sexuality. My argument is the causes of someones sexuality. You aren't even discussing the same thing as me.

I'm saying it's something that a person can't decide. Your examples are about people exploring their sexuality. But your sexuality is something that feels "just right" to you-- the end result of the exploration.

You're arguing that it's the exploration that causes people to decide whether or not they're gay-- I'm saying its the exploration that decides what feels "right" and what feels "not right" to them, determining their orientation at the end. And if homosexuality were more accepted and honestly talked about, people would be able to determine sooner in their lives what orientation they are.  

Posted by Latte

I'm saying it's something that a person can't decide. Your examples are about people exploring their sexuality. But your sexuality is something that feels "just right" to you-- the end result of the exploration.

You're arguing that it's the exploration that causes people to decide whether or not they're gay-- I'm saying its the exploration that decides what feels "right" and what feels "not right" to them, determining their orientation at the end. And if homosexuality were more accepted and honestly talked about, people would be able to determine sooner in their lives what orientation they are.

Except sexuality is not something permanent, just like any other preference isn't. I don't understand what makes you think it is so different from anything else.  

Posted by MrSimons

Except sexuality is not something permanent, just like any other preference isn't. I don't understand what makes you think it is so different from anything else.

Because sexuality is permanent-- exploration isn't.  

Posted by Hadzz

Arent most boys at that age not interested in romance ?It seems a bit idiotic to create a film in which most males would be discriminated against for viewing and so not only would the target audience yet again be reduced but be more likely to add to the numbers of homophobes . i highly doubt disney have any plans for directly promoting homosexuality in the film industry in the recent future.

Yeah , that's the point I was trying to make. Putting romance as a primary theme in a children's movie wont make it very appealing to their target demographic. Disney movies may incorporate romance into their films, but its usually alongside action/adventure.  

Posted by Latte

Because sexuality is permanent-- exploration isn't.

No it isn't. How can you possibly know whether or not you have reached your "correct" sexuality. Tons of people here think they know exactly what sexuality they have found what they are into.  

Posted by MrSimons

No it isn't. How can you possibly know whether or not you have reached your "correct" sexuality. Tons of people here think they know exactly what sexuality they are.

Because once you've reached your "correct" sexuality, everything makes sense. Suddenly you know why you've felt certain ways towards certain situations. And sometimes it's not even a concept of confusion at all-- some people just know from the get-go.

There's plenty of gay people that I've met, telling me gay stories about their childhood, and how they figured out they were gay. And we even read a reddit thread together about gay people telling the differences between having sex with both genders. It's something that people figure out, or just already know.  

Posted by Latte

Because once you've reached your "correct" sexuality, everything makes sense. Suddenly you know why you've felt certain ways towards certain situations. And sometimes it's not even a concept of confusion at all-- some people just know from the get-go.

There's plenty of gay people that I've met, telling me gay stories about their childhood, and how they figured out they were gay. And we even read a reddit thread together about gay people telling the differences between having sex with both genders. It's something that people figure out, or just already know.

Yea, and there is tons of people here that feel really right in their current situation, but will probably end up being heterosexual later on in life and then maybe they will decide they liked bangin other dudes more and go back to that.

Also reddit is an awful source for an argument. I'd recommend tumblr.  

Posted by MrSimons

Yea, and there is tons of people here that feel really right in their current situation, but will probably end up being heterosexual later on in life and then maybe they will decide they liked bangin other dudes more and go back to that.

Also reddit is an awful source for an argument. I'd recommend tumblr.

Then that means that they've been straight the whole time and are just exploring.  

Posted by Latte

Then that means that they've been straight the whole time and are just exploring.

Well I'm js bangin other guys isnt straight.  

Posted by MrSimons

Well I'm js bangin other guys isnt straight.

what

y are we dating  

wtf is going on now  

Seriously? A whole debate about a movie that was already proven to be false. GG fellas.