Posted by NeoZX

Yes.


They all suck, don't deny it.
The "work" you do there is getting to your puny weak brain.

It's like speaking to a wall x-x  

Posted by XSTÃRX

But they use those cash to actually make improvements to the server and those forum sites like graalians/era-go etc. Someone's being a little dramatic.

No, no they don't...Graalians and Era-Go were fan created and under no control / moderation or support of Stefan or Unixmad (especially in terms of funding...) Perhaps SNK and Rufus get or got a slight payout from in game purchases and they chose to fund their websites with it, but it was never directly allocated to them with this purpose in mind.  

Posted by Torankusu

No, no they don't...Graalians and Era-Go were fan created and under no control / moderation or support of Stefan or Unixmad (especially in terms of funding...) Perhaps SNK and Rufus get or got a slight payout from in game purchases and they chose to fund their websites with it, but it was never directly allocated to them with this purpose in mind.

Era-Go was strictly funded from snk's pocket, no help whatsoever.  

The fact that so many people still take iEra as a serious community and try to defend its playerbase and forums, ever only tells you how far iEra still is from being taken seriously.
Realistic iEra players have long recognized that the a large margin of their 'game' is comprised of the worst community by far and that iClassic, although still bad, are a lot more normal and a small (big if its relative to iEra's) chunk of its community is actually full of helpful individuals.
iEra players are still blinded by the blatant pay2win system installed:
They think that they're using their money for something useful in the long-term (not true, by the way, what will they do when the servers shut down), but they have the right to use their money for anything right, guys? Nope, their attitude not only encourages Eurocenter to implement more pay2win to squeeze more money.
No wonder, it's not Eurocenter's fault, if I had an app with voluntary staff and a tween demographic that's willing to pay at least 10$ a month, I'd do what they did.
TL;DR **** the iEra community  

Posted by Torankusu

No, no they don't...Graalians and Era-Go were fan created and under no control / moderation or support of Stefan or Unixmad (especially in terms of funding...) Perhaps SNK and Rufus get or got a slight payout from in game purchases and they chose to fund their websites with it, but it was never directly allocated to them with this purpose in mind.

Graalians on the other hand is under no control of whoever is in-charge.
No point of holding it up if nothing ever happens by the helpers.  

Posted by iHot

Yet at the end of the day Era manages to grow. What Graal game made the best app ever awards? Era did. The people who complain about pay2win probably shelled out $70 to buy a BAR. Most of the population doesn't care if its pay2win. They can complain and whine but when that new gun comes out, when that new melee is released they're the first ones to spend the money to get them.

ok, how many times do i have to say this. The only reason why era wins the top app award is that era is the only server that bribes players to vote and era advertises the crap out of it.

Posted by fsh

i have aids

sorry, this isn't the 80s no more where aids was a huge deal, its all about cancer now.

Posted by Johnaudi

And for the people that think Era is pay to win much, it kinda is, but it's not necessarily a pay. The uzi is still one of the best weapons on Era.

WTF do you even play era? the uzis are terrible in combat.  

Posted by Torankusu

No, no they don't...Graalians and Era-Go were fan created and under no control / moderation or support of Stefan or Unixmad (especially in terms of funding...) Perhaps SNK and Rufus get or got a slight payout from in game purchases and they chose to fund their websites with it, but it was never directly allocated to them with this purpose in mind.

As John said snk pays for Era-Go from his own pocket so that it would help the players.

Whoever hates snk is a big fat meanie. He's a super nice guy.  

Posted by iHot

Whoever hates snk is a big fat meanie. He's a super nice guy.

who doesn't listen to his community and allows all this BS era has. Yeah, i suppose he's nice.  

Posted by iHot

As John said snk pays for Era-Go from his own pocket so that it would help the players.

I never knew this. That's really nice of him  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

who doesn't listen to his community and allows all this BS era has. Yeah, i suppose he's nice.

SNK's decision making power is not all-being, there are several things he'd rather do differently but the powers that be won't ever let it happen.  

Posted by iHot

Whoever hates snk is a big fat meanie. He's a super nice guy.

I don't think anyone has a hatred towards snk.
There's a difference between a nice manager and a skilled manager (although I'm not stating he's not skilled or a great manager).  

Posted by XSTÃRX

Thanks for the reply.
I hope to see you leave graal and never return after saying a tragic thing to the creators of graal server economies.

Economies?! There's an economy in Graal? There's no "economy" in any of the Graal games. The prices for rares are player-decided, not community-decided.

Posted by XSTÃRX

It's bad enough that people decided to call it 'p2w' just cause the owners and creators earn a lot of money.

Owners as in... Just Stefan and Stephane? All the money goes to them. None of the actual developers get paid. Everyone who made the servers? No money for them! Lol!

Posted by XSTÃRX

But they use those cash to actually make improvements to the server and those forum sites like graalians/era-go etc. Someone's being a little dramatic.

The Era Staff Team made the Era-Go forums. They're paying for it out of their own wallet. I assume that because I know Stefan/Stephane wouldn't lend a dime for it. The only thing the owners actually do is keep the Graal servers running, and pay for the Graalonline official site.

Oh, you don't need all that money to run a couple servers, and a site. It's quite cheap. Upgrading a server is pretty easy with all the money they're getting. Upgrading a server is like buying something from the Dollar Store for them.  

Posted by Mejico Jøsh

Not played a graal game in over 3 months because they are all awful and there is no doubting it

No ****.

Posted by Johnaudi

It's like speaking to a wall x-x

I don't care if you love Stefan.  

Posted by Torankusu

SNK's decision making power is not all-being, there are several things he'd rather do differently but the powers that be won't ever let it happen.

im willing to bet snk does have a huge amount of control. Stefan just seems like that type of guy that really does not give a rats ass and as long as he is making money, then he will leave you alone.

Also there is a TON of stuff snk could have stopped in era but he didn't. He also just blows off the community and can't tackle large issues. He just avoids them.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

im willing to bet snk does have a huge amount of control. Stefan just seems like that type of guy that really does not give a rats ass and as long as he is making money, then he will leave you alone.

Also there is a TON of stuff snk could have stopped in era but he didn't. He also just blows off the community and can't tackle large issues. He just avoids them.

Gj guy.
Good opinion.