Posted by Goddess

Ikr :'c.. rip my thread





Thanks, and probs not ^.^

Sorry. To be honest I hate debating religion, and usually try to avoid it, same goes with politics for me.

Back to tattoo subject.. One thing I will say about tattoos is the people who get tattoos on their inner lip can endure a lot of pain, and that's not weak.  

Posted by pacman

Sorry. To be honest I hate debating religion, and usually try to avoid it, same goes with politics for me.

Don't worry, it's fine :3

Posted by pacman

Back to tattoo subject.. One thing I will say about tattoos is the people who get tattoos on their inner lip can endure a lot of pain, and that's not weak.

And I was teasing you X3  

Posted by pacman

Huh? Is that your attempt at being condescending? Yeh... I never said anything about ISIS or Taliban. Try again buddy.

"Go draw a picture of Mohammad, show it to a Muslim and see what happens."  

Posted by PumaD

"Go draw a picture of Mohammad, show it to a Muslim and see what happens."

It's against the Qur'an/Koran to create images of Allah/God or the prophet Muhammed/Mohammed so generally a majority of them will get offended by it.

As for the statement itself it was kind of pointing towards extremist terrorist groups, even though it's against Islam law to create images of said character it is also against Islam law to use violence and so a true Muslim would not retaliate in a harmful way the ones who do are extremist and should not be considered Muslims.

So Pacman, PumaD was right in stating what he did.

As for the theory of evolution, there is a difference between theory and a scientific theory, 'a scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed ' and evolution has in some cases been confirmed, testing of course is a bit more difficult since evolution happens over time but they have ran successful tests that have shown how evolution has occurred in some scenarios.

Evolution is real, the debate is whether or not the theory of evolution regarding humans is.


The bible is not a history book as not everything in the bible actually happened, nor can they be confirmed as true facts.  

Posted by Bryan*

This thread went from talking about piercings to a religious debate.

all pacman and psymons had to do was nod their head.  

Posted by Crono

You're so deep man, I guess there are no facts in life only varying levels of theories. Mind = blown.

Mentioning history in the middle of supernatural bull**** does not mean the Bible is more correct. I don't deny that the Bible has stories about actual events, but I think we can all guess which parts are make believe.

Evolution is a theory. There is nothing that can prove it to be 100% true. Sorry to burst your bubble.

I also can't take you seriously since you seem to just call anything you don't agree with "supernatural bull****". I thought you were more mature than that but I guess not.

Posted by pacman

What are you talking about the Bible isn't a history book? The Bible is a canonical collection of texts sacred in Judaism and Christianity.

The Old Testament has Jewish lineage that no historian would dispute. It's funny because they use to say King David never existed since only the Old Testament mentioned him, but then archaeologist found tons of evidence.

The New Testament in the 4 gospels it talks about Jesus. Again, historians, Jews, Muslims, none of them deny the existence of Jesus. They may deny His deity, but not his existence.

The Bible IS a history book, that is 100% facts. Many many people throughout history have tried to disprove information in the Bible, but have always been unsuccessful. I've taken world religion, and you can find things that can disprove parts of most religions except the Bible.

The Bible is not a history book. It is a book of stories. Stories which may or may not have happened. Jesus was a real person, almost a bunch of people in the Bible were real people, and even some historians find that the first king of a Sumerian empire had a name extremely similar to that of Adam. And I hate to say it myself, but...nothing can prove that the Bible is 100% facts. A bunch of overwhelming evidence, true, but the Bible can't be proved to be 100% facts.

But real life artifacts are important pieces from history give insight to historic events that may not just be a coincidence...a piece of Sumerian writing shows a great flood drowning many people in the cities of Sumer, and there happens to be a story in the Bible with extremely similar events happening...

But, the Bible is not meant to be used in a history lesson. It's meant to tell us stories about why some things happen.  

Lol, this thread.  

Posted by Common Sense

nothing can prove that the Bible is 100% facts. A bunch of overwhelming evidence, true, but the Bible can't be proved to be 100% facts.

Sure, but let's take a look at probability for a moment..

• Being struck by lightning in a year = 7 x 105 or 1 in 700,000
• Being killed by lightning in a year = 2 x 106 or 1 in 2,000,000
• Becoming president = 1 x 107 or 1 in 10,000,000
• A meteorite landing on your house = 1.8 x 1014 or 1 in 180,000,000,000,000
• You will eventually die = 1 in 1

Now, let's look at the probability studies conducted by Dr. Peter Stoner, author of Science Speaks. He states that if the chance of one thing happening is "1 in M", and the chance of another independent thing happening is "1 in N", then the chance that they shall both happen is "1 in M x N", as it pertains to fulfillment of Biblical prophecies.

The Bible is full of prophecies, either events that have happened or events that will happen in the future. Dr. Stoner looks at the probability that one man, Jesus Christ, could have fulfilled even 8 of the 300 prophecies that pertain to Him in the Bible. Let's look at these eight prophecies from the Old Testament pertaining to Christ, their fulfillment by Christ in the New Testament, the probability of one man fulfilling each prophecy, and the sum of one man fulfilling all eight prophecies. Keep in mind, the time span between the prophecies of the Old Testament and the New Testament fulfillment is hundreds, even thousands of years. I will not point out the supernatural ones, just basic ones like the location that Jesus was born..



To answer the question what is the probability of one man fulfilling all eight prophecies, the principal of probability is applied. Therefore, multiplying all eight probabilities together (1 times 2.8 x 105 x 103 x 102 x 103 x 103 x 105 x 103 x 104) gives us 2.8 x 1028, or for simplicity sake 1 x 1028 or 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Given this and the time span between the writings of the Old Testament and the fulfillment by Christ in the New Testament, the prophecies were either given to the prophets by God, or the prophets just wrote them down as they thought they should be. With Christ fulfilling all eight prophecies, what are the odds the prophets were just guessing? By using the modern science of probability in reference to just eight of these prophecies, the chance that any man might have lived to fulfill all eight prophecies is one in 100 trillion!
To illustrate this point: If we take 100 trillion silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas, they would be two feet deep. Now we mark one of these silver dollars and thoroughly stir the whole mass--all over the state. Now blindfold a man and let him travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick only one silver dollar.

So, in conclusion when looking at the Bible mathematically, there is more convincing evidence towards the Bible, then there is with evolution, or any other religion.

 

Yeah, but you're assuming that everything is fact in the bible which brings us all the way back too.... FAITH. You have it, they don't. Now that we understand this very complicated idea, let's get back on topic or I'll close the thread  

Posted by pacman

Sure, but let's take a look at probability for a moment..

• Being struck by lightning in a year = 7 x 105 or 1 in 700,000
• Being killed by lightning in a year = 2 x 106 or 1 in 2,000,000
• Becoming president = 1 x 107 or 1 in 10,000,000
• A meteorite landing on your house = 1.8 x 1014 or 1 in 180,000,000,000,000
• You will eventually die = 1 in 1

Now, let's look at the probability studies conducted by Dr. Peter Stoner, author of Science Speaks. He states that if the chance of one thing happening is "1 in M", and the chance of another independent thing happening is "1 in N", then the chance that they shall both happen is "1 in M x N", as it pertains to fulfillment of Biblical prophecies.

The Bible is full of prophecies, either events that have happened or events that will happen in the future. Dr. Stoner looks at the probability that one man, Jesus Christ, could have fulfilled even 8 of the 300 prophecies that pertain to Him in the Bible. Let's look at these eight prophecies from the Old Testament pertaining to Christ, their fulfillment by Christ in the New Testament, the probability of one man fulfilling each prophecy, and the sum of one man fulfilling all eight prophecies. Keep in mind, the time span between the prophecies of the Old Testament and the New Testament fulfillment is hundreds, even thousands of years. I will not point out the supernatural ones, just basic ones like the location that Jesus was born..



To answer the question what is the probability of one man fulfilling all eight prophecies, the principal of probability is applied. Therefore, multiplying all eight probabilities together (1 times 2.8 x 105 x 103 x 102 x 103 x 103 x 105 x 103 x 104) gives us 2.8 x 1028, or for simplicity sake 1 x 1028 or 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Given this and the time span between the writings of the Old Testament and the fulfillment by Christ in the New Testament, the prophecies were either given to the prophets by God, or the prophets just wrote them down as they thought they should be. With Christ fulfilling all eight prophecies, what are the odds the prophets were just guessing? By using the modern science of probability in reference to just eight of these prophecies, the chance that any man might have lived to fulfill all eight prophecies is one in 100 trillion!
To illustrate this point: If we take 100 trillion silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas, they would be two feet deep. Now we mark one of these silver dollars and thoroughly stir the whole mass--all over the state. Now blindfold a man and let him travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick only one silver dollar.

So, in conclusion when looking at the Bible mathematically, there is more convincing evidence towards the Bible, then there is with evolution, or any other religion.

There is only one god, and his name is Sammy

 

what happened to my thread  

Dont get gauges  

Pls change thread name to evolution vs religion.  

Posted by pacman

Sure, but let's take a look at probability for a moment..

• Being struck by lightning in a year = 7 x 105 or 1 in 700,000
• Being killed by lightning in a year = 2 x 106 or 1 in 2,000,000
• Becoming president = 1 x 107 or 1 in 10,000,000
• A meteorite landing on your house = 1.8 x 1014 or 1 in 180,000,000,000,000
• You will eventually die = 1 in 1

Now, let's look at the probability studies conducted by Dr. Peter Stoner, author of Science Speaks. He states that if the chance of one thing happening is "1 in M", and the chance of another independent thing happening is "1 in N", then the chance that they shall both happen is "1 in M x N", as it pertains to fulfillment of Biblical prophecies.

The Bible is full of prophecies, either events that have happened or events that will happen in the future. Dr. Stoner looks at the probability that one man, Jesus Christ, could have fulfilled even 8 of the 300 prophecies that pertain to Him in the Bible. Let's look at these eight prophecies from the Old Testament pertaining to Christ, their fulfillment by Christ in the New Testament, the probability of one man fulfilling each prophecy, and the sum of one man fulfilling all eight prophecies. Keep in mind, the time span between the prophecies of the Old Testament and the New Testament fulfillment is hundreds, even thousands of years. I will not point out the supernatural ones, just basic ones like the location that Jesus was born..



To answer the question what is the probability of one man fulfilling all eight prophecies, the principal of probability is applied. Therefore, multiplying all eight probabilities together (1 times 2.8 x 105 x 103 x 102 x 103 x 103 x 105 x 103 x 104) gives us 2.8 x 1028, or for simplicity sake 1 x 1028 or 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Given this and the time span between the writings of the Old Testament and the fulfillment by Christ in the New Testament, the prophecies were either given to the prophets by God, or the prophets just wrote them down as they thought they should be. With Christ fulfilling all eight prophecies, what are the odds the prophets were just guessing? By using the modern science of probability in reference to just eight of these prophecies, the chance that any man might have lived to fulfill all eight prophecies is one in 100 trillion!
To illustrate this point: If we take 100 trillion silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas, they would be two feet deep. Now we mark one of these silver dollars and thoroughly stir the whole mass--all over the state. Now blindfold a man and let him travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick only one silver dollar.

So, in conclusion when looking at the Bible mathematically, there is more convincing evidence towards the Bible, then there is with evolution, or any other religion.

Pacman, this is all based off of faith. Nothing in the Bible is confirmed, and when I say confirmed, nobody caught anything on camera or anything. All we have are the writings of scribes from centuries ago, and we don't even know if this is how it went down. That's why people are so skeptical, because all we have are century-year old writings. Nothing to prove anything.

We don't know if this is how everything went down. But Jesus was a real person, and he was born in Bethlehem. It's all about faith from there.  

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT PIERCINGS AND LOOKING SEXY, NOT RELIGION

PLS STOP.