rufus for rust GS, we used to gimmick ppl together during our gsts and he took part in a lot of them  

So true

Posted by Gitaz

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Bruhh, Crono 100x better than you. It's not hard to be good when you cheat. In case that's still not clear to you let me give you an example... It's like using aimbot in an FPS game. Before you go on a rant about how everyone is offline when you spar (which is what you say in all your arguments), let me hold you just there and tell you I've seen you spar and you warp around more than kids using the warp command in Minecraft.

So true  

its funny how I'm lower on this list then I am in other peoples forums and i trolled dark and mikvas opinions but i respect thallens because it actually has a technical aspect to it rather than basing it off of silly **** like how they do in a single series.  

There's a lot of talk about this 'tier list' but I mean, who cares? Its one guy's opinion, and the Gods and especially Platinum I absolutely destroy, I struggle more against people in lower tiers.

Everybody has their own tiers.  

Posted by John Rocker

There's a lot of talk about this 'tier list' but I mean, who cares? Its one guy's opinion, and the Gods and especially Platinum I absolutely destroy, I struggle more against people in lower tiers.

Everybody has their own tiers.

Aye, that's Rocker for ye'.  

yeah, but rocker has more tears  

Posted by McCullough

Aye, that's Rocker for ye'.

its not rocker for you its just factual. Everybody see's things differently, thallens list is his opinion based off the opinions he's gathered about other people based on:
1. what he see's when they spar
2. who he talks to
3. what his standards are when he rates players

Some people don't give a **** about GST or Guild spar (like two of the best idevice sparrers, Shan and Kevin91) their list wouldn't have any bias when it comes to GST and guild spar, some ******s in graal rate you based solely on how you do in guild sparring.

Some people are ******ed and think everything has to do with one series, like if you series somebody and beat them in one series that ultimately makes you better (it doesn't, unless you series seriously like 3 times and win 3-0, then its pretty fair to say you're CURRENTLY doing better than that individual, but it still doesn't make you BETTER overall. Ziderics style beats Bretts, doesn't mean he's 100% BETTER overall than brett.)

Some people are dumb and base their beliefs on streaking abilities. Some people only que when good people are sparring and manage to get consistent streaks of 3-1,4-1,5-1,6-1. While others que vs noobs and pull off 50+ streaks. Then theres people from PC graal/sarah who are really good and can do that vs good sparrers swell. Theres a lot that goes into it, and everybody is bias in some way shape or form. some more than others, thallens list was pretty good(his opinion) but theres definitely 30-40 names i would move around(my opinion)  

im offended  

I think a good way to look at it is to ask yourself if you'd be able to beat more than half of the sparrers in the tier above you in a series to 100

I tried to judge people on performance vs. the entire field of sparrers, not anything narrow like, "Oh, X can beat Y and Y is in Platinum, so X has to be Platinum or higher"
I'm sure it's not perfect, Gold-Silver are extremely hard to judge  

Posted by John Rocker

There's a lot of talk about this 'tier list' but I mean, who cares? Its one guy's opinion, and the Gods and especially Platinum I absolutely destroy, I struggle more against people in lower tiers.

Everybody has their own tiers.

ya but i murder you and im in master tier so it evens out

I'd put my money on a lot of people in plat before you too.  

I don't like to spar when there are over 3500 people online, it's just no fun and everyone plays boring and defensively. I don't want to spar when it becomes amateur or ridiculous. I'd be in a tier if it wasn't for these servers, but you know how people are with their thoughts on this game.

I'd personally ask Thallen for his thoughts but nah.  

Posted by Zetectic

spar.clandestine.pw
gs.clandestine.pw
pk.clandestine.pw

http://www.clandestine.pw/sparring-tier-list.html
http://www.clandestine.pw/gsing-tier-list.html

You forgot me in both the GS/Spar list..


I should at least get into Gold or Platinum honestly.

Posted by DoubleliftGraal

You forgot me in both the GS/Spar list..


I should at least get into Gold or Platinum honestly.

Redirect on my own opinion: If Brett is at the top/Legend, I should be around master or diamond level.  

I should be listed in inactive  

Posted by Zideruic

ya but i murder you and im in master tier so it evens out

I'd put my money on a lot of people in plat before you too.

Whoever your money is on, the results speak for themselves.

I feel pretty good about the fact that I only come on and spar for a few hours once every other week or so and am better than the majority of these platinum and higher players whose primary social life is a flash game on the internet.  

T3CK, you've been playing since 2003(?) If you're not at least platinum tier by now I don't think you ever will be. Not even trying to be mean I'm just saying that you weirdly lie about beating people in Legend/Master/Diamond/Plat/even Gold all the time when it (a) never happens and (b) never in any conceivable reality would happen.

I'm not gonna say anything more about it really cause I feel like feeding into your delusions of grandeur encourages you or something.