Posted by iHot

Yeah big explosion=universe
Seems legit. It seems stupid our universe expanded??

It's the expansion of the universe, not a giant explosion where the universe popped up over night.  

Posted by Rexx

It's the expansion of the universe, not a giant explosion where the universe popped up over night.

Proof??  

Do you believe God exist or doesn't exist? If you do; do you really think that there is a big man sitting on the clouds watching us humans run around like ants?  

Posted by iHot

Proof??

The galaxies are expanding in all directions. Its a fact found in astronomy.

The metric expansion of space is the increase of distance with time between distant parts of the universe. It is an intrinsic expansion—that is, it is defined by the relative separation of parts of the universe and not by motion "outward" into preexisting space. The universe is not expanding "into" anything outside of itself. A frequently used 2-D analogy is the expansion of the surface of an expanding rubber balloon. In this analogy the universe has two spatial dimensions (the surface of the balloon) rather than three. As the balloon expands, any two points on its surface get farther and farther apart. Another common analogy is a rising loaf of raisin bread—as the loaf expands, the raisins inside it move farther and farther apart from each other.

 

Posted by iHot

Proof??

You can research that yourself, I'm not here to educate you.  

Posted by callimuc

For me it sounds like: "There is no god? Get rid of me I shouldn't exist". If there wouldn't be a god, than I wouldn't think like that. It actually wouldn't change anything on myself or how I think about my life

Well to me it's "there is something out there that made/makes me exist" and I accept the steps (Big Bang, Evolution) that led up to it but I just can't understand what made that first push to create everything other than "God did it" or the first piece of the puzzle invented itself.  

Posted by Mr.$imons

I'd just like someone to explain the big bang to me, it seems pretty ridiculous to me considering there couldn't be anything to trigger it.

I got this. Basically the universe started off in an extremely hot point called a singularity. Something that is infinitely small and infinitely massive. These have been widely presumed to already exist in black holes across the universe for decades and now also galaxies recently so the idea of this is not something crazy. At no point in time, the point where spacetime was infinitely insignificant along with space, the universe began to expand. So, if you follow me, the universe has always been expanding because of this idea of the singularity and it taking an infinite amount of time to reach the point where the big bang started. And this expansion continues to this day. The universes features themselves where formed by the cooling down of the energy emitted by the big bang into things like protons, neutrons, and electrons. Gravity did the rest eventually (this is a long process if you want me to explain further), forming hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe, and then hydrogen clouds. Where stars are still made today. After billions of years these stars began to swirl into galaxies. Stars would then naturally provide the elements within themselves for the creation of planets.  

Posted by fp4

Well to me it's "there is something out there that made/makes me exist" and I accept the steps (Big Bang, Evolution) that led up to it but I just can't understand what made that first push to create everything other than "God did it" or the first piece of the puzzle invented itself.

Jea, but who created god? That's the 2nd question

Posted by *Ergaster

Do you believe God exist or doesn't exist? If you do; do you really think that there is a big man sitting on the clouds watching us humans run around like ants?

If you believe in god it doesn't mean you believe that he's a human or animal or something like that like it's believed in the christian, hindu, ... religion. Personally I don't think that god is anything in a human/animal form. Not sure how to explain it in english (not even sure how to explain it in german lol) but I think it's something like a "higher energy" form. Something you can't see in any way even though it's around us all the time. Like I said, I'm not sure how to explain it  

Posted by callimuc

If you believe in god it doesn't mean you believe that he's a human or animal or something like that like it's believed in the christian, hindu, ... religion. Personally I don't think that god is anything in a human/animal form. Not sure how to explain it in english (not even sure how to explain it in german lol) but I think it's something like a "higher energy" form. Something you can't see in any way even though it's around us all the time. Like I said, I'm not sure how to explain it

omnipresent.  

Posted by -Albus

Yes it does apply do modern day Muslims. Unfortunately, there are extremists that are killing in the name of religion. The "peaceful" Muslims can't really do a whole lot to take a stand either. Take a look at the United States. After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Muslims in the U.S. have had a pretty difficult time. How do you expect someone that is discriminated against by a whole nation to take a stand for what they believe in, when what they believe in is part of the reason they are being discriminated against? It is a religion of peace, ask any Muslim in the U.S. and they will tell you that. Like I said before, it's what you hear about it that gives it a bad name.

If everything was solved by reason and thinking only, the world could be a much more dangerous place. Not everyone may have good morals like you, and might result to stealing and violence to get what they want or need. It sounds crazy, but some people need religion to help keep them on the right track.

Back on the topic of your thread, nobody is going to be able to prove that god is real, just like you can not prove that gravity is real.

Lol if gravity isn't real than how are you standing on your two feet without floating off into space? Now you're just being dumb.
Religion certainly isn't contributing to the peace of the world, it actually has a negative effect, so you can only imagine it would be better without it.
And it's only human nature that some people are violent or want to do bad things, and if religion is the only thing keeping someone from behaving like that then they need to seek help and join the rest of the modern 21st century.

Ethnic groups in the past have proven they can stand up for themselves I don't see why Muslims can't do the same. I guess they don't care that extremists represent their religion and convey a distorted image for the rest of them.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

omnipresent.

yea  

Posted by callimuc

Jea, but who created god? That's the 2nd question

Itself. Which sounds impossible but I don't know how it could happen any other way. However like you mentioned before it doesn't really matter, and shouldn't influence our day to day activities.  

Posted by fp4

Itself. Which sounds impossible but I don't know how it could happen any other way. However like you mentioned before it doesn't really matter, and shouldn't influence our day to day activities.

It really shouldn't, yet that is what religion teaches its followers.  

I cannot say if he does or doesn't exist; but what I do know that íf he exists he is an awfull person, if you see what happens (and happened) in the world..  

Posted by fp4

Itself. Which sounds impossible but I don't know how it could happen any other way. However like you mentioned before it doesn't really matter, and shouldn't influence our day to day activities.

Do we need a God to set it all up so a Big Bang can bang? … Our everyday experience makes us convinced that everything that happens must be caused by something that occurred earlier in time. So it’s natural for us to assume that something—perhaps God—must have caused the universe to come into existence. But when we’re talking about the universe as a whole, that isn’t necessarily so.
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The role played by time at the beginning of the universe is, I believe, the final key to removing the need for a Grand Designer, and revealing how the universe created itself. … Time itself must come to a stop [at the singularity]. You can’t get to a time before the big bang, because there was no time before the big bang. We have finally found something that does not have a cause because there was no time for a cause to exist in. For me this means there is no possibility of a creator because there is no time for a creator to have existed. Since time itself began at the moment of the Big Bang, it was an event that could not have been caused or created by anyone or anything. … So when people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the Big Bang, so there is no time for God to make the universe in. It’s like asking for directions to the edge of the Earth. The Earth is a sphere. It does not have an edge, so looking for it is a futile exercise.”[1]

~Stefan hawking