Posted by SnakeRekon

Doable.. but really that just takes an annoying amount of time :p
More important things to do than to make a gunlist.

It doesn't have to be you who codes it though. I'm simply putting a suggestion out there.

Posted by SnakeRekon

None of you seem to be reading what I say.. it's NOT a chance of blocking currently.
it outright REDUCES a percentage of damage.

No offense, but what you're posting does come across slightly arrogant and defensive, so nobody really wants to read what you post. I kind of agree with what your posts are trying to say, but it could be worded so it doesn't sound so fiery. You're representing Era iPhone's staff team remember ;)  

Snake did you read what I wrote about the improvements ?  

Posted by Emera

It doesn't have to be you who codes it though. I'm simply putting a suggestion out there.


No offense, but what you're posting does come across slightly arrogant and defensive, so nobody really wants to read what you post. I kind of agree with what your posts are trying to say, but it could be worded so it doesn't sound so fiery. You're representing Era iPhone's staff team remember ;)

That's just me Emera. Though, if they don't read it and choose to post what i've already explained, why should I actually even bother to try help o.o;;
We don't endorse this forum anymore, so I guess it's not so bad in regards to representing  

Loool I just checked the ksg again both bullets when hit to a player does 6 damage if upgraded, and if it is not it does 4 damage (both bullets) block rate improved slightly, but not well enough. I don't get this snake you want the ksg not good as the PBP right?

PBP shoots out 4 bullets and if all 4 hits a player that's 20 damage, and ksg shoots 2 bullets at a time, and if both hits that 6 damage(if upgraded).. Atleast make the ksg bullets 3-4 damage each, so the ksg is worth it's price, also please make the freeze rate less, because each time I shoot it is impossible to move again as it is so slow, it's like someone has deployed the green gas...  

Posted by SnakeRekon

That's just me Emera. Though, if they don't read it and choose to post what i've already explained, why should I actually even bother to try help o.o;;
We don't endorse this forum anymore, so I guess it's not so bad in regards to representing

I understand what you're saying, and I wouldn't help either if they weren't reading what I was posting, but you could try and tone it done just a tincy wincy bit  

Probably just annoyed me due to lack of being helpful >:[
I'm busy with CTF atm, just changing stuff as I go  

Posted by SnakeRekon

Probably just annoyed me due to lack of being helpful >:[
I'm busy with CTF atm, just changing stuff as I go

Wait wtf your making it? X.x I should stop?

Posted by romario786

Loool I just checked the ksg again both bullets when hit to a player does 6 damage if upgraded, and if it is not it does 4 damage (both bullets) block rate improved slightly, but not well enough. I don't get this snake you want the ksg not good as the PBP right?

PBP shoots out 4 bullets and if all 4 hits a player that's 20 damage, and ksg shoots 2 bullets at a time, and if both hits that 6 damage(if upgraded).. Atleast make the ksg bullets 3-4 damage each, so the ksg is worth it's price, also please make the freeze rate less, because each time I shoot it is impossible to move again as it is so slow, it's like someone has deployed the green gas...

No, stop nagging, now people would start saying its overpowered again -.- 6 damage it enough which shoots 2 bullets and has a shield for 75k...
Remember AP0 has about 9 damage and two bullets and costs around the 80's I suppose... So take away 3 damage for the shield is enough... And still KSG has less freeze, you will get us in another chaos  

Posted by SnakeRekon

That thread is wrong, they've since been changed, so discard those statistics I already know since I checked them myself. If the PBP did do 8 damage, there would be no issues to changing the KSG's damage, but since it doesn't, well it's not overly viable

I reduced the damage you take temporarily till we decide to change the blocksystem again back to bamboo style.
I'll think about the damage later.

Modded freeze with shield, should be okay.

Actually I still disagree on this, because even if the pbp does 4 damage per bullet, the KSG only shoots two bullets instead of four. So I still think te damage is fair to add (to four damage per bullet), but the main problem remains the shield, which should (in my opinion) have 85% chance of blocking, so not a damage reducting shield, but one that has a chance to block the bullets. If those two were added I think it would be okay again .  

Look, it was amazing when it came out. The chance of blocking should be changed to 2/3s what it originally was. The bullets didn't do much, but it at least protected you all the while.

Yes, I know the blocking part is gone. Bring it back. With the KSGs low damage per bullet, it's still easy as he'll to our spar it. The blocking can still be beaten easily.

Simply put, as others have stated, make the KSG damage per bullet add up to a total of 10-12 damage. Pbp does much more per blast if all the bullets hit. I can't remember the total damage, but it's at least 18 per blast. 12 damage isn't unreasonable.

You know, I wish I had a chance to edit those guns myself. Too bad, since I'm assuming the Era Dev Server is PC only? :/

Correction: Pbp does 4x4 which is 16, right?  

Posted by Shock

Look, it was amazing when it came out. The chance of blocking should be changed to 2/3s what it originally was. The bullets didn't do much, but it at least protected you all the while.

Yes, I know the blocking part is gone. Bring it back. With the KSGs low damage per bullet, it's still easy as he'll to our spar it. The blocking can still be beaten easily.

Simply put, as others have stated, make the KSG damage per bullet add up to a total of 10-12 damage. Pbp does much more per blast if all the bullets hit. I can't remember the total damage, but it's at least 18 per blast. 12 damage isn't unreasonable.

You know, I wish I had a chance to edit those guns myself. Too bad, since I'm assuming the Era Dev Server is PC only? :/

Correction: Pbp does 4x4 which is 16, right?

Yes, but he meant 6 damage in total, so both bullets hit, if repaired.
It's just 4 damage without repairs, which makes it 2 damage per bullet.
The shield still isn't functioning well, so it still isn't what it's supposed to be...  

Posted by Engel

Yes, but he meant 6 damage in total, so both bullets hit, if repaired.
It's just 4 damage without repairs, which makes it 2 damage per bullet.
The shield still isn't functioning well, so it still isn't what it's supposed to be...

Hey, why not also make a thread about the handgun? M4 is too overpowered for it isn't it?  

Posted by Johnaudi

Hey, why not also make a thread about the handgun? M4 is too overpowered for it isn't it?

They aren't comparable, ad if you want to have an argument about this, read the whole thread before being so sceptical, and then, if you took aaall the effort to read it, which is -of course- hard in your oh so busy schedual, thén I'll show you I'm right with real arguments, not something like that comparison you just made.  

You guys keep going on about KSG being a spar weapon >:[ Makes me sad panda really, seems to keep being put in the wrong situations to test its usefulness o.o;; M4 will always beat KSG in a spar, period.

And John, nothing wrong with more than one Arena? Though, you don't work here so it's pretty irrelevant whether you're making it or not  

Posted by Engel

They aren't comparable, ad if you want to have an argument about this, read the whole thread before being so sceptical, and then, if you took aaall the effort to read it, which is -of course- hard in your oh so busy schedual, thén I'll show you I'm right with real arguments, not something like that comparison you just made.

You are trying to make KSG good for the people who have it, not the people who are shot by it... I have it and don't use it anyways...

Posted by SnakeRekon

You guys keep going on about KSG being a spar weapon >:[ Makes me sad panda really, seems to keep being put in the wrong situations to test its usefulness o.o;; M4 will always beat KSG in a spar, period.

And John, nothing wrong with more than one Arena? Though, you don't work here so it's pretty irrelevant whether you're making it or not

Yeah KSG is more like a Raid gun...
Oh and snake I do that for fun basically, and for knowing where my errors are haha...  

Posted by Johnaudi

You are trying to make KSG good for the people who have it, not the people who are shot by it... I have it and don't use it anyways...



Yeah KSG is more like a Raid gun...
Oh and snake I do that for fun basically, and for knowing where my errors are haha...

You didn't read the thread. Check it again, it isn't only about the KSG, it's about nerving a gun while people already bought it. You can't do that, so, in my opinion they need to fix the mistake they made there, by, in the KSG's case, upgrading it.