Is there a graal classic rulebook with rules you must obey?  

I've been asking for rules for ages, but I don't think there are any written rules currently. The best alternative is learning what you and other people have been banned for and not repeating those mistakes.  

I really wish there was. Sometimes I feel like I'm playing minesweeper when it comes to graal. There is a bunch of unsaid rules, and when you break them, game over.

Posted by _Dellik_

I've been asking for rules for ages, but I don't think there are any written rules currently. The best alternative is learning what you and other people have been banned for and not repeating those mistakes.

For graalians I was banned for making account with similar name to member that rarely posts on this forum. I'm sure a lot of people have similar names, and there is no rule written about this. But hey, I respect the moderators and so live and learn.

For Graal, I let someone get on my account, and then shortly after I was banned for "cheating." The guy said he could get me a specific hat, and instead he got me banned. I'm guessing it was someone from a guild that saw me as a threat, because after they got me banned they sent me a messages on kik laughing about it. It's cool, I doxed, I know who they are and revenge is coming. I spent a lot of money on that account, so I feel like they kind of crossed a line.  

Posted by _Dellik_

I've been asking for rules for ages, but I don't think there are any written rules currently. The best alternative is learning what you and other people have been banned for and not repeating those mistakes.

There are so many cool things I'd like to do on graal, but alas I don't know if I'll get banned.

Posted by pacman

I really wish there was. Sometimes I feel like I'm playing minesweeper when it comes to graal. There is a bunch of unsaid rules, and when you break them, game over.

I don't think anyone could of put it better  

Much respect to the admins and moderators. I just think that the majority of people are not trying to break the rules. We all LOVE the game, and we LOVE spending money on the game. If we just had a clear set of rules, I bet most of us that are getting banned would not get banned. I love and respect the admins and moderators, I just wish they had a little more compassion for the players, and understood we are all here to just have fun.  

Most of the stuff is self-explanatory, but really without a page that lists all of graal's rules, (such as terms of condition), then players in my opinion should not get penalized for anything.

Also, I'm unknowing of if there is or not  

Posted by pacman

I really wish there was. Sometimes I feel like I'm playing minesweeper when it comes to graal. There is a bunch of unsaid rules, and when you break them, game over.



For graalians I was banned for making account with similar name to member that rarely posts on this forum. I'm sure a lot of people have similar names, and there is no rule written about this. But hey, I respect the moderators and so live and learn.

For Graal, I let someone get on my account, and then shortly after I was banned for "cheating." The guy said he could get me a specific hat, and instead he got me banned. I'm guessing it was someone from a guild that saw me as a threat, because after they got me banned they sent me a messages on kik laughing about it. It's cool, I doxed, I know who they are and revenge is coming. I spent a lot of money on that account, so I feel like they kind of crossed a line.

banned for making a sonic refrence  

Posted by Sicx

Most of the stuff is self-explanatory, but really without a page that lists all of graal's rules, (such as terms of condition), then players in my opinion should not get penalized for anything.

Also, I'm unknowing of if there is or not

It really isn't self explanatory. For example if "bad words" is considered breaking the rules.. What's a bad word? There was a thread asking if "damn" is a bad word. I would say it depends on who you're talking to. For some it's bad for some is not. If the rule is enforced because they want to protect younger kids, then ok I understand. If that's the case let's be consistent and ban phrases like "shut up" because I know a lot of elementary schools do not allow this.

If it's not just about protecting younger children, and more about being polite, then more things would need to be banned. If we are worried about offending people then they would need to ban all religions, races, etc, anything that would offend someone.

Hacking - if someone "hacks" the game, of they're intentions is not to harm the game but reveal it's weaknesses, shouldn't a person be rewarded for this and not punished? Wouldn't they want to know the weak points of the game? If not, then make it a clear rule, explaining what the repercussion will be.

I know many games and sites that when you break the rule you have to click something saying you read the rules. This seems like a logical approach. I mean how can you really know someone knows the rules if you don't have a clear set of rules? The game consists of people from all around the works, different ages, different customs, different everything.. It's a bit unfair to assume everyone knows what the rules should be.

I try to look at graal from a business point of view. The more people you ban the less money you make. So if the game has to ban a lot of people the questions should be 1 how much money does the average person who is banned spend? 2. How much money does graal lose from banning people? How can graal help people not get banned? Would making the rules more clear help people from getting banned? Could the money that is saved from not banning people be used for the server? Could the money that is saved from not banning people help with lag? Could the money that is saved from not banning people help the overall game?

Again, I love and respect the admin, moderators, and the game. I just want to understand the punishing system. Is it to show power over the player, or is it to teach a lesson to the player breaking the rule? If it's to teach a lesson then I'm all for it, but how about teaching by making the rules clear? Just friendly advice, thank you for taking the time to read my rant.  

Are there rules we must obey?
-yes...
But are those rules written down somewhere for players to be aware of?
-nooope
Why not?...
-idek  

To start this post, GraalOnline Classic is rated 9+ meaning it is targeted towards a younger user base which should help you understand why they ban you for some of things you guys might say or do.

Let's tackle this whole 'damn' thing, because honestly I am pretty sure who ever claims to have gotten banned for that is clearly lying or hiding the rest of the story. A majority of words not meant to be said are blocked out but in some cases given the geographical playerbase some words might be a swear word in one country but not in another so they can not simply block out everything because of that reason.

An admin is capable of knowing whether or not you are swearing or talking with a bad language tone and can easily judge whether or not you deserve a ban for what you're saying.


The rules really are self explanatory, don't be disrespectful or harassing to other members of the game, just like we wouldn't want you to be here on Graalians.

You should not hack or cheat or abuse a bug in order to gain a game advantage, Pacman stated earlier this can 'help' them fix things, there's a reason support.toonslab.com is there, find a bug or glitch? Report it to them instead of making it a public issue where more users may then abuse it.

Also do not share your accounts because that is illegal.

Rules of Conduct as provided here ;

Please read these policies carefully so you understand the rules under which you can play GraalOnline and interact with the other players.

General

GraalOnline is presented on an AS-IS basis. Usage of the GraalOnline product indicates acceptance of this, and any risk that may imply. GraalOnline can only promise to make a reasonable effort to fix a software problem or to return service as quickly as possible (except in cases where the service interrupt is not related to the GraalOnline product itself). Only in cases of massive, unintentional account reset, GraalOnline will make reasonable efforts to restore any loss of player attributes, gralats, tools, etc. Otherwise, screenshots and individual witness are not acceptable proof.

Keep It Legal

No illegal activities are allowed in GraalOnline. You may not use Chat or Forums to publish, post, distribute or disseminate defamatory, infringing, obscene or other unlawful material or information, specifically, but not limited to, child pornography, bestiality or incest. Also, players may not promote the use or distribution of illegal drugs.

Players may not use GraalOnline to distribute urls to external sites which promote illegal activities and violate the code of conduct.

Players may not upload files or post messages that contain photos, music, software or other material protected by intellectual property laws, rights of privacy or publicity or any other applicable law unless they own or control the rights thereto or have received all the necessary consents. GraalOnline is not responsible for any use of anything you say or post.

IMPORTANT: Players risk immediate ban if they build, host or even promote sites and/or web content for facilitating cheating, threats of cheating and any type of hacking content.

Privacy

GraalOnline policy will respect each individual player's privacy to communicate unless there is a reasonable concern that such conversations relate to bug abuse, disruptive behavior, or other illegal activities. It must be made clear that all actions and conversations within GraalOnline are subject to monitoring. Should a player or players be suspected of illegal or abusive activity, GraalOnline reserves the right to use administration tools to monitor individuals' communications via chats and other private messages.

GraalOnline staff and personnel will never single out individual personal information when communicating to other players or outside parties. GraalOnline expects GraalOnline players to abide by the same respect for personal privacy. Personal information - age, address, personal email, phone numbers, etc. - should never be exploited, communicated between players. Any violations will be strictly punished.

Character Names

Generally, it is up to the player to decide the name for his or her character while playing GraalOnline . However, some character names will be considered abusive behaviour: for example, names indicating other specific player characters, the players themselves, GraalOnline staff, or any real-life personal information will not be accepted. It is also unacceptable to use profanity, racially or sexually explicit words or generally threatening wording as a player's character name. "Kill_XXXX" is an example of an unacceptable name. Judgment of what is and is not disruptive is entirely at the discretion of GraalOnline.

Chat and Forum

Discussion through onscreen chat, GraalOnline chat, and discussion forums is a part of the game. GraalOnline must not be used, however, to promote competing products or services. Individuals who actively promote other competing products or services within GraalOnline, may be locked out.

Another abuse of chat and forum privileges is when players use abusive language (cursing or threatening language), racial attacks or comments, or sexually explicit comments, either general or specific, when communicating to individual players, in the content of mass messages via the GraalOnline chat system, or via the discussion boards.

The GraalOnline Communications Forum (Message Boards) is used to discuss GraalOnline related content, gameplay, ideas, experiences. Constructive complaints and other healthy criticism that points out ways the game can be improved are welcome. Flame wars, personal attacks on players, and any unfounded criticisms will be removed. Abuses such as these will lead to players being banned from the Communications Forum. GraalOnline staff may lock out such abusive players.

Players may not promote anything sexually explicit, implications of racism, or vulgar online. This includes, but is not limited to, sharing URLs with others to websites that contain profanity, nudity, or anything else that violates the GraalOnline Rules of Conduct.

Players promoting content that is subversive to gameplay, promotes cheating, or any other hacking activities risk immediate ban. GraalOnline will have no tolerance for such activities.
Bug Abuse, Hacks and Trainers

This section refers to creating or using any program or technique resulting in unfair advantage via an undocumented feature or disrupting the datastream to and from the server. Such Memory Edits, Trainers, Anti-Idle Macros, Bots or any other 'hacks' destroy the balance of play in GraalOnline and reduce its effectiveness to remain an entertaining product. While a player may think that abusing a bug for personal gain may not affect others, the fact is that it distorts power, creates imbalances in riches, and is otherwise unfair to players abiding by normal game rules. Players must agree that the consequences of allowing bugs and loopholes to be exploited is so detrimental to the product, that GraalOnline will exercise no tolerance whatsoever for anyone participating in this type of activity.

Bugs should always be reported. If you observe someone else abusing a serious bug, or discussing a plan to abuse one, and fail to report it, you are subject to the same penalties as they are. Players should report bugs to the Graal forum, Support Center (support.toonslab.com) or email the problem to [email protected].

Rewards obtained from bug abuse may be confiscated, at GraalOnline' sole discretion. Failure to cooperate with GraalOnline as to the extent or nature of a bug, or failure to be honest about the rewards obtained from bug abuse, is grounds for immediate lock-out from GraalOnline.  

Now this is something.  

Okay! My name is Stephane Portha and I will write a 31 Handmade Official Rulebook of Graal Classic.

No. 1 obey god Stephane Portha
No. 2 Don;t advertise other games rather than good games.  

Posted by pacman

Hacking - if someone "hacks" the game, of they're intentions is not to harm the game but reveal it's weaknesses, shouldn't a person be rewarded for this and not punished? Wouldn't they want to know the weak points of the game?

Staff already know almost everything that can be hacked and glitched. If a guy goes and murders someone, should the police just say "Oh, we never thought to prevent that kind of crime before, have a reward!"?

Posted by pacman

I try to look at graal from a business point of view. The more people you ban the less money you make. So if the game has to ban a lot of people the questions should be 1 how much money does the average person who is banned spend? 2. How much money does graal lose from banning people? How can graal help people not get banned? Would making the rules more clear help people from getting banned? Could the money that is saved from not banning people be used for the server? Could the money that is saved from not banning people help with lag? Could the money that is saved from not banning people help the overall game?

Thats not how business is conducted either lol. Letting the rules slide for the people who have the money, thats called the Mafia.  

Posted by Colin

To start this post, GraalOnline Classic is rated 9+ meaning it is targeted towards a younger user base which should help you understand why they ban you for some of things you guys might say or do.

Let's tackle this whole 'damn' thing, because honestly I am pretty sure who ever claims to have gotten banned for that is clearly lying or hiding the rest of the story. A majority of words not meant to be said are blocked out but in some cases given the geographical playerbase some words might be a swear word in one country but not in another so they can not simply block out everything because of that reason.

An admin is capable of knowing whether or not you are swearing or talking with a bad language tone and can easily judge whether or not you deserve a ban for what you're saying.


The rules really are self explanatory, don't be disrespectful or harassing to other members of the game, just like we wouldn't want you to be here on Graalians.

You should not hack or cheat or abuse a bug in order to gain a game advantage, Pacman stated earlier this can 'help' them fix things, there's a reason support.toonslab.com is there, find a bug or glitch? Report it to them instead of making it a public issue where more users may then abuse it.

Also do not share your accounts because that is illegal.

Rules of Conduct as provided here ;

Please read these policies carefully so you understand the rules under which you can play GraalOnline and interact with the other players.

General

GraalOnline is presented on an AS-IS basis. Usage of the GraalOnline product indicates acceptance of this, and any risk that may imply. GraalOnline can only promise to make a reasonable effort to fix a software problem or to return service as quickly as possible (except in cases where the service interrupt is not related to the GraalOnline product itself). Only in cases of massive, unintentional account reset, GraalOnline will make reasonable efforts to restore any loss of player attributes, gralats, tools, etc. Otherwise, screenshots and individual witness are not acceptable proof.

Keep It Legal

No illegal activities are allowed in GraalOnline. You may not use Chat or Forums to publish, post, distribute or disseminate defamatory, infringing, obscene or other unlawful material or information, specifically, but not limited to, child pornography, bestiality or incest. Also, players may not promote the use or distribution of illegal drugs.

Players may not use GraalOnline to distribute urls to external sites which promote illegal activities and violate the code of conduct.

Players may not upload files or post messages that contain photos, music, software or other material protected by intellectual property laws, rights of privacy or publicity or any other applicable law unless they own or control the rights thereto or have received all the necessary consents. GraalOnline is not responsible for any use of anything you say or post.

IMPORTANT: Players risk immediate ban if they build, host or even promote sites and/or web content for facilitating cheating, threats of cheating and any type of hacking content.

Privacy

GraalOnline policy will respect each individual player's privacy to communicate unless there is a reasonable concern that such conversations relate to bug abuse, disruptive behavior, or other illegal activities. It must be made clear that all actions and conversations within GraalOnline are subject to monitoring. Should a player or players be suspected of illegal or abusive activity, GraalOnline reserves the right to use administration tools to monitor individuals' communications via chats and other private messages.

GraalOnline staff and personnel will never single out individual personal information when communicating to other players or outside parties. GraalOnline expects GraalOnline players to abide by the same respect for personal privacy. Personal information - age, address, personal email, phone numbers, etc. - should never be exploited, communicated between players. Any violations will be strictly punished.

Character Names

Generally, it is up to the player to decide the name for his or her character while playing GraalOnline . However, some character names will be considered abusive behaviour: for example, names indicating other specific player characters, the players themselves, GraalOnline staff, or any real-life personal information will not be accepted. It is also unacceptable to use profanity, racially or sexually explicit words or generally threatening wording as a player's character name. "Kill_XXXX" is an example of an unacceptable name. Judgment of what is and is not disruptive is entirely at the discretion of GraalOnline.

Chat and Forum

Discussion through onscreen chat, GraalOnline chat, and discussion forums is a part of the game. GraalOnline must not be used, however, to promote competing products or services. Individuals who actively promote other competing products or services within GraalOnline, may be locked out.

Another abuse of chat and forum privileges is when players use abusive language (cursing or threatening language), racial attacks or comments, or sexually explicit comments, either general or specific, when communicating to individual players, in the content of mass messages via the GraalOnline chat system, or via the discussion boards.

The GraalOnline Communications Forum (Message Boards) is used to discuss GraalOnline related content, gameplay, ideas, experiences. Constructive complaints and other healthy criticism that points out ways the game can be improved are welcome. Flame wars, personal attacks on players, and any unfounded criticisms will be removed. Abuses such as these will lead to players being banned from the Communications Forum. GraalOnline staff may lock out such abusive players.

Players may not promote anything sexually explicit, implications of racism, or vulgar online. This includes, but is not limited to, sharing URLs with others to websites that contain profanity, nudity, or anything else that violates the GraalOnline Rules of Conduct.

Players promoting content that is subversive to gameplay, promotes cheating, or any other hacking activities risk immediate ban. GraalOnline will have no tolerance for such activities.
Bug Abuse, Hacks and Trainers

This section refers to creating or using any program or technique resulting in unfair advantage via an undocumented feature or disrupting the datastream to and from the server. Such Memory Edits, Trainers, Anti-Idle Macros, Bots or any other 'hacks' destroy the balance of play in GraalOnline and reduce its effectiveness to remain an entertaining product. While a player may think that abusing a bug for personal gain may not affect others, the fact is that it distorts power, creates imbalances in riches, and is otherwise unfair to players abiding by normal game rules. Players must agree that the consequences of allowing bugs and loopholes to be exploited is so detrimental to the product, that GraalOnline will exercise no tolerance whatsoever for anyone participating in this type of activity.

Bugs should always be reported. If you observe someone else abusing a serious bug, or discussing a plan to abuse one, and fail to report it, you are subject to the same penalties as they are. Players should report bugs to the Graal forum, Support Center (support.toonslab.com) or email the problem to [email protected].

Rewards obtained from bug abuse may be confiscated, at GraalOnline' sole discretion. Failure to cooperate with GraalOnline as to the extent or nature of a bug, or failure to be honest about the rewards obtained from bug abuse, is grounds for immediate lock-out from GraalOnline.

I actually didn't know I couldn't share an account, but the rule makes since. I think this contributed to my ban.


I'm all for following rules whether I agree with them or not. I think it's important to follow the rules because the goal I believe is to make the game more pleasant for all. I just wish they would give warnings before banning people for 3 months especially if it's a first time offence

Posted by twilit

Staff already know almost everything that can be hacked and glitched. If a guy goes and murders someone, should the police just say "Oh, we never thought to prevent that kind of crime before, have a reward!"?





Thats not how business is conducted either lol. Letting the rules slide for the people who have the money, thats called the Mafia.

Not at all my friend. You're missing my point. Of course not a criminal should not be rewarded especially if they murdered. How would that benefit anyone.

However, hackers have been rewarded instead of put in jail. Good hackers will get hired by big corporations, FBI, CIA, etc..

Nonetheless, I'm not trying to get in a debate on whether or not criminals should be rewarded. I agree with you on the subject for the most part.

I'm all for following the rules. I didn't know there was a rule against hacking. The only thing I wish is that the rules and penalties were more clear. I probably would of never known about these rules had I not of came to this wonderful forum with all you helpful people who take time out of your busy schedules and donate it to cotton headed ninny muggins like myself who struggle with common sense.  

Colin didn't mention anything about using an autobutton to farm for you.
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