Okay, tired of explaining this, so I'll just put this thread up and link to it whenever someone asks me while I'm still here.

First of all, I don't "hate" graal, and I most certainly do not dislike aspects of it simply because I'm banned. If you knew me, you'd know complaining and starting uproars and "bashing" the higher ups was half the reason I am permabanned.

Secondly I don't hate all staff, in fact I've been great friends with some of the past staff, like Nat, Katops, Lollipop/Minty/Licorice/whatever other alias she used, and Muse, I've been friends with players that became staff, Pimpsy, Regret, Punk, Midori, Scaal, Dragon(mimic?), Fireenn (maybe not cuz he hates me for killing his cows and giants on minecraft) and probably a heck lot more who im forgetting.

Although I often fight or disagree with them, I admire Azrael, Twinny, and sometimes Nyn, I find they often are funny, truthful, and albeit I often argue with them, I usaully end up conceding with most of their statements and feel like a fool.

It's not just iPhone staff I'm friends with, I'm a acquaintance of Thor, and I'd like to say im a acquaintance of Rufus, Dusty, Fp4, and Beholder, but they most likely just think me of more a iPhone pest that whinges more than a door that's gone 50 years without oil.

As for the argument that I should quit/go away because I find problems with the game, let me explain it this way.

Graal has a great potential, is addictive and fun, and I'm quite attached to it, just because I don't agree with some of the decisions and disagree with the way Stefan, Unixmad, or Xor are.

Saying I should leave because of that would be like me saying that if you don't like things in America sometimes or don't agree with Obama you should move to Mexico! Heck, if people quit every time someone in power did something they disagreed with, then Pc graal would only have 1/5 the players it has now.

As for me being critical, I agree, I try hard to speak and express my opinions with intelligent, easy to read......speeches. Yes, sorry, i probably require a page on sparknotes for those that seem to feel "tl;dr" is acceptable. But I don't hate everything. Certain updates I have been overjoyed about, the bat baddys, the bombs being changed, the pets, the gst, the quests, the RPS, and I still have tiny hope that one day that quest Remi and Marion worked on will be completed....

Remember guys, believe in your voice. You'd be amazed how much force you can gain and how much influence you can have. Like all in progress games Graal has some problems, whether it's a problem with who's running the game or the game itself, it's still important to voice your opinion, just don't try to force it on someone else. If someone claims you should go away because you complain, remind them that if no one criticized anything then nothing would ever be made better.  

First of all, I don't "hate" graal, and I most certainly do not dislike aspects of it simply because I'm banned. If you knew me, you'd know complaining and starting uproars and "bashing" the higher ups was half the reason I am permabanned.

Then why are you complaining and continue to starting uproars and "bashing" the higher ups?
Half of the people already know you're continuing to do so...

Secondly I don't hate all staff, in fact I've been great friends with some of the past staff, like Nat, Katops, Lollipop/Minty/Licorice/whatever other alias she used, and Muse, I've been friends with players that became staff, Pimpsy, Regret, Punk, Midori, Scaal, Dragon(mimic?), Fireenn (maybe not cuz he hates me for killing his cows and giants on minecraft) and probably a heck lot more who im forgetting.

Although I often fight or disagree with them, I admire Azrael, Twinny, and sometimes Nyn, I find they often are funny, truthful, and albeit I often argue with them, I usually end up conceding with most of their statements and feel like a fool.

Attention Seeking!!!

It's not just iPhone staff I'm friends with, I'm a acquaintance of Thor, and I'd like to say im a acquaintance of Rufus, Dusty, Fp4, and Beholder, but they most likely just think me of more a iPhone pest that whinges more than a door that's gone 50 years without oil.

Hmm... I wonder why...

Graal has a great potential, is addictive and fun, and I'm quite attached to it, just because I don't agree with some of the decisions and disagree with the way Stefan, Unixmad, or Xor are.

Its disgusting to see how its made into a money maker but hey... Stefan and Unixmad do need to make money out of something. Eurocenter doesn't make apps for free you know..

Saying I should leave because of that would be like me saying that if you don't like things in America sometimes or don't agree with Obama you should move to Mexico! Heck, if people quit every time someone in power did something they disagreed with, then Pc graal would only have 1/5 the players it has now.

But this forums is mostly based on the iPhone version of Graal Classic, so don't expect what you see on PC graal to just appear suddenly in the iPhone version

As for me being critical, I agree, I try hard to speak and express my opinions with intelligent, easy to read......speeches. Yes, sorry, i probably require a page on sparknotes for those that seem to feel "tl;dr" is acceptable. But I don't hate everything. Certain updates I have been overjoyed about, the bat baddys, the bombs being changed, the pets, the gst, the quests, the RPS, and I still have tiny hope that one day that quest Remi and Marion worked on will be completed....

It is completed but its not getting a release till the new year.. I hope..
And listen... I know its a pain but dude... Just suck it up and leave a suggestion or two that could be acceptable for everyone to enjoy... Its not the gralats that makes the players happy but what can you do with the gralats... And even though theres money being made out of it... We all think sometimes it was really worth spending the dollars and having fun..

Remember guys, believe in your voice. You'd be amazed how much force you can gain and how much influence you can have. Like all in progress games Graal has some problems, whether it's a problem with who's running the game or the game itself, it's still important to voice your opinion, just don't try to force it on someone else. If someone claims you should go away because you complain, remind them that if no one criticized anything then nothing would ever be made better.

True Higbey... But no one is doing that... Everyone (yes ill include me) is demanding for these suggestions... No one is explaining the Logistics to how it should work or how is this gonna help Graal Classic...

So before you talk about voicing any ideas or suggestions, grab a piece of paper and a pen... Start writing/drawing it out... Then express it from the paper you made (or scan it and paste it here) so all people can understand and actually consider putting it to the test...

If its a success, you're a hero..  

You sure love talking huh? You're like a forum jesus.  

Maikeru shut up if you have nothing to say  

Posted by BroozeB

Maikeru shut up if you have nothing to say

But he had a ton to say! :O  

Posted by Kc Ramone

But he had a ton to say! :O

This is true.

And Higbey, moving to Mexico is quite different than quitting, concerning effort. Unless of course you want to hop the border with a sack of cauliflower and fake ID's. That's not so hard.

This thread is just asking for a flame war.  

inb4 lock.  

I get the same treatment from Pimpsy when I criticize Minecraft, lol.  

Let's get it straight and put this to rest once and for all.
You probably dislike the way managers run Graal but everyone been in the same situation it's just facts and the way of graal nothing to beat yourself up and dislike the game itself.

Graal lacks - Scripters
Graal has - Graphics Development

The two main key to Graal one lacks.

(Scripters)
Currently it's only Twinny -Xor who do their best while Stefan challenge the biggest projects at most times but he's focused on bugs/security and both Classic/Eraplus whatever updates he need to put in his app..
We also get a hand from Fp but can't stand on the guy head all the time after all he's the only one running zodiac.

If you know graal history it's because the lack of scripters we cannot get stuff developed quickly this has happen with many of us,i bet dusty and myself made tons of contents for some server and they never get used cause it lacks scripters. I never said the current staff cannot get content out but it takes time which you don't have.  

Posted by BroozeB

Maikeru shut up if you have nothing to say

Nothing to say O.o?

Posted by Maikeru

Then why are you complaining and continue to starting uproars and "bashing" the higher ups?
Half of the people already know you're continuing to do so...


Attention Seeking!!!


Hmm... I wonder why...


Its disgusting to see how its made into a money maker but hey... Stefan and Unixmad do need to make money out of something. Eurocenter doesn't make apps for free you know..


But this forums is mostly based on the iPhone version of Graal Classic, so don't expect what you see on PC graal to just appear suddenly in the iPhone version


It is completed but its not getting a release till the new year.. I hope..
And listen... I know its a pain but dude... Just suck it up and leave a suggestion or two that could be acceptable for everyone to enjoy... Its not the gralats that makes the players happy but what can you do with the gralats... And even though theres money being made out of it... We all think sometimes it was really worth spending the dollars and having fun..


True Higbey... But no one is doing that... Everyone (yes ill include me) is demanding for these suggestions... No one is explaining the Logistics to how it should work or how is this gonna help Graal Classic...

So before you talk about voicing any ideas or suggestions, grab a piece of paper and a pen... Start writing/drawing it out... Then express it from the paper you made (or scan it and paste it here) so all people can understand and actually consider putting it to the test...

If its a success, you're a hero..

 

He meant nothing good to say just move on and forget it.  

Posted by Maikeru

Bullcrap

This is why you're an unknown quantity at this point y'know.  

Posted by Emera

This is why you're an unknown quantity at this point y'know.

"Emera is an unknown quantity at this point"  

Posted by BroozeB

"Emera is an unknown quantity at this point"

I know right :O

"BroozeB is an unknown quantity at this point"  

Posted by Maikeru

Attention Seeking!!!

You seem to be the expert in attention seeking.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1179
Cat deleted the other goodbye thread from you.