So since zone is going to **** and one of the reasons is guns. I figured out a way to balance out all the weapons and make weapons effective at different situations. I came up with the following

Assault rifles- all around guns, medium damage, rof, range, there not bad or amazing at anything and all around a solid choice. base gun, Photon rifle

SMGs- guns that have no knockback and allow very high manuverability, low damage, fast rof, short range, and unlike other guns, the bullet spawns from the player making the player if you touch them and they fire the gun, you take damage, however they can not shoot through cover. They also have the fastest t2ks in game. base gun, grass gun.

long range- guns that have higher bullet velocity, longer range, and massive damage, base gun watermelon gun

MG's, low damage, high clip size, high rof, massive spread, massive knockback medium range. These are great for suppressing other players and also have fast t2ks. base gun plasma chaingun.


with these i took the time to determine the catagories of the guns too and what they should be changed, im basing these in fastest t2ks at the bottom and slowest.
The numbers next to the guns name are their time to kill meaning how long it would mathmatically take to kill someone. If theres stuff underneath it. That is changes i made


have a spread sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1864426550  

Just your intro makes me not want to read what you have to say  

Posted by kenovo

Just your intro makes me not want to read what you have to say

Dont deny that zones going to ****. If your not all into stats n stuff, then no this isnt your thread  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Dont deny that zones going to ****. If your not all into stats n stuff, then no this isnt your thread

More players and content sure is disastrous !  

Posted by kenovo

More players and content sure is disastrous !

More players that are doing nothing but sit at start and in the trade center when we need people to start pking and filling up bases round the clock until its like era where theres always people in a base  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

like era

is this not what everyone complains about?  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

More players that are doing nothing but sit at start and in the trade center when we need people to start pking and filling up bases round the clock until its like era where theres always people in a base

Was an interesting post in the OP, will +rep for it.

Tbh, I hate basing and pk is boring and pointless to me personally. There's nothing better or more entertaining to do than sitting at start or in trade center. There is 0 roleplay content, so people like me chill at start and the trade center. Sometimes I might go kill people at bases for entertainment, but I'm usually sitting around or away making graphics lol

As of recently I've been doing missions for money though.  

well theres no point to tower if dudes with rippers will insta you anyways  

Basing on iZone is just an extensive way for players to get a hat. No one actually bases to base, or go beyond. No point in trying to force a change, it will come in time. That's why I'm actually happy to see iEra players migrating to iZone now. They're used to basing continously and might change dynamics on iZone.

#Ghettoicedtea for GA.  

FINALLY! dem ripper spammer be no more! Actually I have no knowledge about these stats so i hope .2 is slower than the rippers we have now..  

Posted by 99%

Basing on iZone is just an extensive way for players to get a hat. No one actually bases to base, or go beyond. No point in trying to force a change, it will come in time. That's why I'm actually happy to see iEra players migrating to iZone now. They're used to basing continously and might change dynamics on iZone.

#Ghettoicedtea for GA.

I just hope they are nice.  

Posted by *Agent

FINALLY! dem ripper spammer be no more! Actually I have no knowledge about these stats so i hope .2 is slower than the rippers we have now..

.2 is photon ROF meaning its fast, but its incredibly hard to shoot fast  

Posted by -nicegun-

well theres no point to tower if dudes with rippers will insta you anyways

Me @ rippers.
I think rippers should've never been made in the first place.
It's basically the zone version of a BAR, except it's not a rifle.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

ZONE IS ****ING **** HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

Yeah yeah, though I agree for different reasons. You want better guns? Convince Stefan to stop being a dumbass and raise the max health to 100 so you can have greater room for balancing and letting guns actually be different and unique, rather than having .2 differences.

Posted by Meatman204

Me @ rippers.
I think rippers should've never been made in the first place.
It's basically the zone version of a BAR, except it's not a rifle.

Rippers have always been a top gun in Zone with decent speed, 20 damage and being stealth-ish. The only offset they had on PC was that they were slower than most hand guns for firing and had a small clip; easily offset by the appirces which fired 2 bullets per gun (4 shots with 2) and did 9 damage each at a slightly faster rate. Normally appirces beat the rippers due to spread and speed, buuuuuuuut, you guys aren't that lucky. I'm sorry.

Posted by Shadowfox

Was an interesting post in the OP, will +rep for it.

Tbh, I hate basing and pk is boring and pointless to me personally. There's nothing better or more entertaining to do than sitting at start or in trade center. There is 0 roleplay content, so people like me chill at start and the trade center. Sometimes I might go kill people at bases for entertainment, but I'm usually sitting around or away making graphics lol

As of recently I've been doing missions for money though.

Shadowfox bby, I won't smack you for wanting RP content, but you need to know that RP is not for Zone at all. Zone SHOULD be a pure PK fest. Leave the RPing to the degenerates on iClassic.

Posted by 99%

Basing on iZone is just an extensive way for players to get a hat. No one actually bases to base, or go beyond. No point in trying to force a change, it will come in time. That's why I'm actually happy to see iEra players migrating to iZone now. They're used to basing continously and might change dynamics on iZone.

#Ghettoicedtea for GA.

#RemoveSquadsBasesAndMakeAllPlanetsSupport1To4Team sWhichAreOnlyAtMostOffSetBy1Person

Gogogo  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

Yeah yeah, though I agree for different reasons. You want better guns? Convince Stefan to stop being a dumbass and raise the max health to 100 so you can have greater room for balancing and letting guns actually be different and unique, rather than having .2 differences.

oh man if zone had 100 hp then god damn i could really balance **** out. Because i agree with you actually, the whole .04 crap really doesn't make a huge difference, it only really makes a difference in the ease of the tap fire and how forgiving the gun will be if you goof up (or if it will even be able to tap fire)

also i think you and me are on the same page for the most part on why its going to ****. its making the same mistakes as era did, but zone can be fixed, gun wise at least since theres no huge price margin.

Posted by kenovo

is this not what everyone complains about?

yes so what? In era i can walk in a base and get action very very fast and gang wars of 7v7s happen all the time, also waiting times on waiting for people to come to the base is small and theres lots of action. In zone i walk into a base and theres either no one there, or 18 people there all in the same squad. Action in bases is very slow and no fun waiting around waiting for attackers. No one will complain about getting action from other squads and actual competition