Gralats and the truth

Higbey · 10-10-2011

If your not a oldy you may not know that it used to be like ten gralats for 30 bombs. Then they changed it. Then they nerfed the gralat spawn rate, and they removed the area in balamb with the grass, and nerfed the grotto. then stopped horse farms from working, They are trying to make farming less and less profitable so players have to buy gralat packs.
It's almost immpossible to make a time efficient profit off of CTF.
They don't care about players or the game. They tell staff not to add quests or any alternative ways to make money. They just want you to buy gralat packs. Don't waste your money. Don't buy them.... All they care about is money, even when other games can successfully make a profit without scamming their players.

Shaun · 10-10-2011

They are going to lose their money if they keep it up.

Tricxta · 10-10-2011

If no one buys graalat packs theres no income and therefore stefan will get the message if he wants maintain some kind of profit, so I agree with you higbey. This happened on graal pc as well though, it's only a matter of time until history repeats itself and the graal population dies off once again.

Higbey · 10-10-2011

I have suggested plenty of ways and other clever uses of in game advertisements that could generate revenue for the game without costing players, along with sponsors, heck im completely sure that this would be possible.

I may not be a wiz at business, but I know it's better to make a lower profit that is sustainable over a larger period of time than to make a bigger profit in a short period of time and crashing it.

NYN · 10-10-2011

You're 15. You're not old enough to have a job. You don't know anything about business. You don't know the value of a dollar because you probably have never paid a bill. You're obviously still mad because you were banned. And finally:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8smiPhZ5XZ0/TirqwYfzCmI/AAAAAAAAAF4/cn_uAdZIPEE/s1600/record_player.jpg (Unsupported image host)

(It's broken)

If there was a problem with the way the game is making money, it would probably be changed. It's not, so obviously the game is stable with its profits, whatever that may be. It obviously isn't much because the game isn't getting much coverage in 3rd parties. It's a private company. Leave it alone.

Maikeru · 10-10-2011

Posted by NYN

You're 15. You're not old enough to have a job. You don't know anything about business. You don't know the value of a dollar because you probably have never paid a bill. You're obviously still mad because you were banned. And finally:

(It's broken)

If there was a problem with the way the game is making money, it would probably be changed. It's not, so obviously the game is stable with its profits, whatever that may be. It obviously isn't much because the game isn't getting much coverage in 3rd parties. It's a private company. Leave it alone.

So we have to suffer in order for them to pay their bills for the server?

Yea thats smart NYN! Let's go upgrade the prices on everything! </sarcasm>

The money comes from the customers so Stefan has to listen to every customer's word. The money comes out of those who are satisfied. Soon there could be a downhill Of popularity and cash due to constricting our options..

Yea, you go ahead and keep screwing up with the community-driven experience NYN. You earn a huge medal...
</sarcasm again>

Tyler · 10-10-2011

I didn't even think there was a decline in people buying gralat packs so I really don't know why they needed to break farming if they did it on purpose I really don't know yet, but it sure feels like it.

Higbey · 10-10-2011

I'm 16, I volunteer at the nature reserve (because the idiots in government wont give it enough funds and the money it's making isn't enough to pay more than 5 workers. Me and a girl volunteering there would get paid if they could. Sometimes I work at the pet store, but I really haven't had the time and I have school during most of the time I used to normally go work there, it wasn't like a real job, just a little cash and experience with animals. The pay sucked but it was worth it.

Now if you are done making false assumptions about my life I'd like to respond.
The player count is decreasing. They wouldnt be doing this stuff if what they were doing before was working. I know the worth of money. I know that a dollar is worth more than virtual money to buy a graphic or a gani. The game is making money off those that don't know, or that have their parents credit cards connected to their iTunes account. If it wasnt for that this game wouldn't be alive.

Maikeru · 10-10-2011

Posted by TylerMysTe

I didn't even think there was a decline in people buying gralat packs so I really don't know why they needed to break farming if they did it on purpose I really don't know yet, but it sure feels like it.

Exactly! There was no decline in gralat packs until then they did decided to constrict our options and add more money-based content.

Literally, why the hell did Stefan did not look onto this?!?

Twinny · 10-10-2011

I don't understand why you would continue if you were, "Suffering".

On a side note, ad revenue is extremely low and could never be considered a viable revenue stream at Graals level.

Higbey · 10-10-2011

As for the ban. Honestly its just personal proof about the system. I know I'm not going to be unbanned. I know XOR did that whole "if your good for a long time I'll unban you" thing so I'd stay down and out of the way thinking id eventually get unbanned. I know XOR had no intention of really unbanning me. He was just trying to get me to shut up and quit. All my friends from graal are on a actual good game run by people that care about players and the game. Minecraft. The only thing I could ever see myself wanting to do on graal is to try out the quest when it comes out and seeing the new area azrael is working on.

Posted by Twinny

I don't understand why you would continue if you were, "Suffering".

On a side note, ad revenue is extremely low and could never be considered a viable revenue stream at Graals level.

It works for Gaia, runescape, lots of games. You just gotta do it right with videos.

Twinny · 10-10-2011

Posted by Higbey

As for the ban. Honestly its just personal proof about the system. I know I'm not going to be unbanned. I know XOR did that whole "if your good for a long time I'll unban you" thing so I'd stay down and out of the way thinking id eventually get unbanned. I know XOR had no intention of really unbanning me. He was just trying to get me to shut up and quit. All my friends from graal are on a actual good game run by people that care about players and the game. Minecraft. The only thing I could ever see myself wanting to do on graal is to try out the quest when it comes out and seeing the new area azrael is working on.

It works for Gaia, runescape, lots of games. You just gotta do it right with videos.

I don't know about the others but Runescape has a substantial member base paying a lot more per month than most Graalians would. I think that memberbase would keeping them afloat rather than the ads.

Maikeru · 10-10-2011

Posted by Twinny

I don't understand why you would continue if you were, "Suffering".

On a side note, ad revenue is extremely low and could never be considered a viable revenue stream at Graals level.

Twinny, we continue because we don't want other players to suffer. What I'm trying to do is help graal classic because so far, its a cluster of glitches,lags,and terrible tweaking.

Literally... Shut up and stop trying to act still... You are an Admin but we are players... You don't know what we're talking about unless you are a player like us... Have you ever seen any problem before the tweaks of the horse and the gralat spawn rate? Have you seen the problems after these tweaks? Have you kept cutting on the grass? Literally, shut up and stop trying to counter arguments unless you have seen it from our view as graal classic players...

There was no decline before the tweaks... The market was kept at a perfect value... But now you have constricted alot of players, Making them decide suffering choices...

The customer always comes first then the employees... If there's no customer, there's no cash... No cash means no business... No business means no employees...

Stefan must hear the basic complaints of every customer and fix it in any way possible to assure the stability of the community... This is common logic... You don't need me to explain it in paragraphs...

Literally, don't talk unless you have tested these tweaks from the view of a graal classic player

Higbey · 10-10-2011

Yes they pay for more per month, but runescape has better graphics, more content, more complex, and it's possible to have fun without paying at all! Yet for graal...

Twinny · 10-10-2011

Posted by Maikeru

Twinny, we continue because we don't want other players to suffer. What I'm trying to do is help graal classic because so far, its a cluster of glitches,lags,and terrible tweaking.

blah blah...rebel rebel

Sometimes I forget how detached I am, looking down on you tiny ants from my glass fortress on the moon

Also, I've been playing Graal for over 10 years now. Likely I've expierenced a whole lot more than you.

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	Gralats and the truth If your not a oldy you may not know that it used to be like ten gralats for 30 bombs. Then they changed it. Then they nerfed the gralat spawn rate, and they removed the area in balamb with the grass, and nerfed the grotto. then stopped horse farms from working, They are trying to make farming less and less profitable so players have to buy gralat packs. It's almost immpossible to make a time efficient profit off of CTF. They don't care about players or the game. They tell staff not to add quests or any alternative ways to make money. They just want you to buy gralat packs. Don't waste your money. Don't buy them.... All they care about is money, even when other games can successfully make a profit without scamming their players. Last edited by Twinny; 06-05-2013 at 12:04 PM. Reason: No need to get personal

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Shaun MysTe Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: US Posts: 1,199	They are going to lose their money if they keep it up.

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Tricxta The muffin man Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Burger Refuge Posts: 2,262	If no one buys graalat packs theres no income and therefore stefan will get the message if he wants maintain some kind of profit, so I agree with you higbey. This happened on graal pc as well though, it's only a matter of time until history repeats itself and the graal population dies off once again.

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NYN Magic Maker Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 398	You're 15. You're not old enough to have a job. You don't know anything about business. You don't know the value of a dollar because you probably have never paid a bill. You're obviously still mad because you were banned. And finally: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8smiPhZ5XZ0/TirqwYfzCmI/AAAAAAAAAF4/cn_uAdZIPEE/s1600/record_player.jpg (Unsupported image host) (It's broken) If there was a problem with the way the game is making money, it would probably be changed. It's not, so obviously the game is stable with its profits, whatever that may be. It obviously isn't much because the game isn't getting much coverage in 3rd parties. It's a private company. Leave it alone.

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Tyler Dark Desert Fox Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States, Ohio Posts: 5,720	I didn't even think there was a decline in people buying gralat packs so I really don't know why they needed to break farming if they did it on purpose I really don't know yet, but it sure feels like it.

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Twinny Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Testbed Posts: 604	I don't understand why you would continue if you were, "Suffering". On a side note, ad revenue is extremely low and could never be considered a viable revenue stream at Graals level.