I think Blake, Male, and Winter are very loyal and very skilled. Probably a lot of other people to. Also US and Mother were lucky to have such good members for as long as they did (not specifically the ones I named above).  

This thread should go into "Graal Guild Centre" since this is about members and guilds, and also, i dont really even see a point to this thread...  

Anyone from Gem is not a good member  

Posted by ZigZag44

This thread should go into "Graal Guild Centre" since this is about members and guilds, and also, i dont really even see a point to this thread...

You're not one to talk.  

Posted by ZigZag44

This thread should go into "Graal Guild Centre" since this is about members and guilds, and also, i dont really even see a point to this thread...

Anybody that actually makes me lol gets a rep

Posted by rickclops

I think Blake, Male, and Winter are very loyal and very skilled. Probably a lot of other people to. Also US and Mother were lucky to have such good members for as long as they did (not specifically the ones I named above).

Ya those are good followers maybe one day they will have the tools to be good leaders and move on.

Posted by rickclops

I think Blake, Male, and Winter are very loyal and very skilled. Probably a lot of other people to. Also US and Mother were lucky to have such good members for as long as they did (not specifically the ones I named above).

Has nothing to do with luck. It has to do with being a tryhard and playing graal for fame or importance. Take mothers idevice noobs the only reason they joined was because rufus didn’t like them enough or weren’t good enough to join his guild (thx to rashuuuurdddd) that was the spar guild to be in. That’s why some of them are leaving now cause they know theyre not going to win the idevice gst. Same thing goes to the US idevice noobs. At least they were able to win a couple gst’s but their idevicers joined for the same reason plus they wanted to kiss rufus rear but I doubt they will leave rufus because well its rufus. (his biches love him).  

I think most people enter tournaments because they want to win.

It would probably be better if GST had a league though.

When people can just leave guilds to join ones they think have a better chance of winning whenever they want GST isn't as much of an event to look forward to. I don't even know if there will be 4 good guilds in it without fast teams are breaking up and making new teams.  

Male's pretty much the only person I've taken from iClassic. Everyone else comes across as expendable (usually by their own choice and doing). Guilds are ******ed on this game, I just limit it to a group of friends and some acquaintances. Enguard will always be loyal and trustworthy though, so that's good enough for me.

If your guild falls apart over the GST then it's not a guild, it's just a bunch of randoms coming together to feel self-important in an effort to win a hat and statue that, after 24 hours, no one really cares much about.  

Posted by rickclops

It would probably be better if GST had a league though.

I was thinking the same thing, maybe sparrers or gst would benefit from having some kind of league. The league could be similar to a bowling league where you would pay a small fee then your randomly placed on a team. Then your team would spar several other teams on a set night of the week in best 2 out of three matches. Each team would get 1 point per win,who ever had the most spar points at the end of the season wins. The League season would run from the week after gst till a week before the next gst.

There could also be a league tourny where the top how many ever teams at the end of the season would spar against each other in a gst type tournament.  

Aw :]
Clops may lead a guild that has been somewhat dormant in recent years, but it remains the oldest and one of the most respected. He is a great leader, and is also well respected. He was also able to lead a handful of his guild members to the finals in a GST in the past. Knowledgeable, skillful, and respectable.

Graal needs more leaders like this than bunches of dead guilds and drifters. With better guild leaders like Clops, Rufus, Thallen, etc., players tend to make their home in a guild and find new friends, building guild loyalty around the entire relationship network.

Posted by GOAT

Same thing goes to the US idevice noobs. At least they were able to win a couple gst’s but their idevicers joined for the same reason plus they wanted to kiss rufus rear but I doubt they will leave rufus because well its rufus. (his biches love him).

Nobody in US just joined, they were chosen by the guild leader and members collectively. We carefully took note of different players attitudes, personalities, sportsmanship, playing style, etc. and decided on a player to ask to join. We never recruited anyone strictly for GST. We've had people removed for one reason or another, and players have left in the past. Our guild framework has nothing to do with the GST. We simply participate like everyone else.

When you say nobody will leave Rufus because, well, its Rufus... I feel like Graal in general seems to have a different opinion of him than most of our guild members. I mean, he's a person like us, and a friend. He's also a leader, and a pretty darn good one at that. I don't think any of our members are attracted to the guild simply because of him. That almost sounds absurd to me lol. The members will always make the guild. The leader is the head and the members form the heart.  

Posted by Winter

Nobody in US just joined, they were chosen by the guild leader and members collectively. We carefully took note of different players attitudes, personalities, sportsmanship, playing style, etc. and decided on a player to ask to join. We never recruited anyone strictly for GST. We've had people removed for one reason or another, and players have left in the past. Our guild framework has nothing to do with the GST. We simply participate like everyone else.

The individual player makes the option to join or not join (when I said rufus didn’t like them enough or weren’t good enough pretty much implied he chose them)

Posted by Winter

We carefully took note of different players attitudes, personalities, sportsmanship, playing style, etc. and decided on a player to ask to join. We never recruited anyone strictly for GST. We've had people removed for one reason or another, and players have left in the past. Our guild framework has nothing to do with the GST. We simply participate like everyone else.

Rufus didn’t like Eddy yet he recruited him Im sure it had nothing to do with making a gst team fo the idevice tournament. Kevin91 would have been recruited but he had to many haters in US. You can deny it all you want but the iphone section of US was done for the purpose of the gst.

Posted by Winter

When you say nobody will leave Rufus because, well, its Rufus... I feel like Graal in general seems to have a different opinion of him than most of our guild members. I mean, he's a person like us, and a friend. He's also a leader, and a pretty darn good one at that. I don't think any of our members are attracted to the guild simply because of him. That almost sounds absurd to me lol. The members will always make the guild. The leader is the head and the members form the heart.

Lets take my girls bf Vlad. He had just won 2 gsts with EP and the Mexicans yet he left them for Rufus with no hesitation. Why would he do that? Wasn’t kuji in those teams too?

Posted by Winter

1.I feel like Graal in general seems to have a different opinion of him than most of our guild members. 2.I mean, he's a person like us, and a friend. 3.He's also a leader, and a pretty darn good one at that. I don't think any of our members are attracted to the guild simply because of him. 4.That almost sounds absurd to me lol. The members will always make the guild. The leader is the head and the members form the heart.

1. no I think everyone sees him the same way. As the most influential/powerful person in iClassic besides the ownership.
2. I don’t doubt that he’s a good friend he comes off as a decent guy BUT he not like you. You guys are noobs he’s a graal GOD
3. I kind of agree with you on this one. Rashuuuuuuurrrrdddddd was the main reason US got a name in iClassic and why everyone was desperate to join.
4. lol I guarantee you if Rufus was to leave US the guild would be nothing.
BUT I STILL LOVE YOU BABE  

Posted by GOAT

The individual player makes the option to join or not join (when I said rufus didn’t like them enough or weren’t good enough pretty much implied he chose them)

The player is given the option to join by the guild and its members. Without the initial decision made by the guild, the player has no window for opportunity. If Rufus would like a player in the guild, he consults the guild about it and we talk it over. He doesn't handpick guild members like you think he does. We, as a guild, are very careful about it.

Posted by GOAT

Rufus didn’t like Eddy yet he recruited him Im sure it had nothing to do with making a gst team fo the idevice tournament. Kevin91 would have been recruited but he had to many haters in US. You can deny it all you want but the iphone section of US was done for the purpose of the gst.

Eddy had great chemistry with a few other members in US when we gave him the opportunity to join. He was left alone with no guild when we realized he would make a nice addition to the guild. Kevin would have been a good member, but while we realized he was a skilled player, he was inactive at the time of his mention, so we knew he wouldn't really be a great teammate at the time. When he started to come back and his name was mentioned again in guild chat, he was already scooped up by Talbourn and dumped in Mother.

Posted by GOAT

Lets take my girls bf Vlad. He had just won 2 gsts with EP and the Mexicans yet he left them for Rufus with no hesitation. Why would he do that? Wasn’t kuji in those teams too?

You can ask Vlad that question. We thought he would have some great connections with guild members, seeing as he had friendly relationships with a great deal of them. Everyone will have a different view on the guild and will come to the decision of joining for different reasons. I cannot speak for someone else.

Posted by GOAT

3. I kind of agree with you on this one. Rashuuuuuuurrrrdddddd was the main reason US got a name in iClassic and why everyone was desperate to join.
4. lol I guarantee you if Rufus was to leave US the guild would be nothing

Haha, Ares didn't really "wow" that many people. Well, not too many players involved in the spar community anyway. Once US won our first GST, people really seemed to love the guild. I believe it has to do with the fact that our team was all these random new people from the foreign PC servers that have just been given access to Classic iPhone. They fought so well together, too. That team was always exciting to watch.

When Rufus is done with Graal, US will be lead by someone else. That's how he became leader in the first place. A new generation of US members will rise like the current one did in 2011. That's just the way the guild has worked since it began in the mid 2000's. I think the guild will work the same, and the players will even still keep in contact with Ruf here and there and maybe play some games with him. Its always good to keep in contact with old friends.

Well, the guild may be nothing to you when he leaves. That's something I can't control. But for our guild members, US doesn't die. ;)  

I hate how sometimes you guys relate iClassic to PC Classic. Both are completely different. So when you say that one guild is "still respected", and you're referring to a guild that originated on PC Classic, and never really did s*** on iClassic.... Ehh  

my guild is inactive http://spoki.tvnet.lv/upload2/articles/53/537946/images/_origin_Ed-Edd-n-Eddy-Memes-3-1.jpg (Unsupported image host)  

I think Shannon is Ed sheeran in disguise everything she writes sounds so beautiful  

Posted by Winter

You can ask Vlad that question. We thought he would have some great connections with guild members, seeing as he had friendly relationships with a great deal of them. Everyone will have a different view on the guild and will come to the decision of joining for different reasons. I cannot speak for someone else.

Don’t need to babe I know. The same reason EP is kissing ass in graalians.

Posted by Winter

Haha, Ares didn't really "wow" that many people. Well, not too many players involved in the spar community anyway. Once US won our first GST, people really seemed to love the guild. I believe it has to do with the fact that our team was all these random new people from the foreign PC servers that have just been given access to Classic iPhone. They fought so well together, too. That team was always exciting to watch.

You live in delusion. It took Rashuuuuurrrrrrdddddd one day to make US famous in iClassic. Magnetic was good too but rashuuurrrdddd just dominated. All these idevice tryhards were so desperate to fit in with them that’s why people wanted to join US.

Posted by Winter

When Rufus is done with Graal, US will be lead by someone else. That's how he became leader in the first place. A new generation of US members will rise like the current one did in 2011. That's just the way the guild has worked since it began in the mid 2000's. I think the guild will work the same, and the players will even still keep in contact with Ruf here and there and maybe play some games with him. Its always good to keep in contact with old friends.

Only time will prove Im right. I won’t be playing then but Im sure you will still be around so I will remember to come back in a couple years.

And the other 2 points I didn’t feel like replying cause youre just going to deny what I say.