Currently: If a spar exceeds 5 minutes (I think) and no one wins, it is a tie
Should be: If a spar exceeds 5 minutes and no one wins, the player with the highest health wins

Why? Well, can you name a game that uses this same format? It makes no sense to punish the winning player for the opponent running or playing defensively, and it encourages really boring sparring. Fighting games like Street Fighter would be so bad if they followed this format.

Also, with the GST being as laggy as it is, it's like a "get out of jail free" card for any team who is losing, and it's 100% legal. If you're ever losing, all you have to do is run around the huge arena until it's a tie. This forces the winning team to play really stupidly and punish themselves and possibly lose just because they've got to rush the opposing player or throw away a free win. You're supposed to force the losing player to play with more urgency during a timeout, not the winning player.  

Agreed, the only problem I see with this is not the losing player that wastes time running around, but the winning player. (This may sound stupid but it's possible) Winning player runs around until timeout so he/she gets the win.  

Posted by Reece

Agreed, the only problem I see with this is not the losing player that wastes time running around, but the winning player. (This may sound stupid but it's possible) Winning player runs around until timeout so he/she gets the win.

Ya, that's 100% possible. I guess it's just a matter of deciding if you want to punish the winning player for not being aggressive enough or punish the losing player for not forcing the spar to actually happen.  

Posted by Thallen

Ya, that's 100% possible. I guess it's just a matter of deciding if you want to punish the winning player for not being aggressive enough or punish the losing player for not forcing the spar to actually happen.

I suppose, but assumedly and I hope, there isn't enough of these sort of players to counter your suggestion.  

Implemented for individual and guild spar.

Guild spar uses the total hearts of alive players, rather than whoever has the most health.  

Posted by fp4

Implemented for individual and guild spar.

Guild spar uses the total hearts of alive players, rather than whoever has the most health.

Nice! I'm assuming it ties if they have equal hearts.

BTW, this is a huge nerf to delayers and wallers, and the anti-fun tactics they use to tie out spars. If you are beating them, they will now be forced to rush you or lose the spar.
(This hurts my GST team, just like suggesting the new leaderboard personally hurts me. I only want stuff to happen that will make sparring better.)  

Posted by Thallen

Nice! I'm assuming it ties if they have equal hearts.

Yes exactly.  

this is a great addition!  

Great ... Now when you have that 1 62737ms lagger you can not hit at all and your best hope is to tie your fu***  

Posted by Thallen

Currently: If a spar exceeds 5 minutes (I think) and no one wins, it is a tie
Should be: If a spar exceeds 5 minutes and no one wins, the player with the highest health wins

Its more like 1-2minutes... And really IMO, it should even be shorter. It gets really boring/annoying when people are frozen in guild spar, holding up the whole queue of 10 guilds for 2 minutes. Same thing in singles when two friends would rather sit and chat for two minutes than kill eachother, holding up the whole spar room.  

I mean if you can't kill your opponent you don't deserve the win.  

Posted by twilit

Its more like 1-2minutes...

Deeefinitely longer than that, at minimum it's 3 but I'm pretty sure it's 5.  

Maybe make a way of calling it a tie when 2 players haven't hit it each other in 30 secs or so?  

Posted by Cody

Maybe make a way of calling it a tie when 2 players haven't hit it each other in 30 secs or so?

That's stupid, it would be exactly the same as before except much easier for the person delaying to tie the spar  

FP4, the only issue I've seen this posing is people who disconnect in spars often. If the spar was in progress, or it's a GS, someone can lag out and it's kinda bad. Is there something you can implement where players who are stationary or unhittable for 30 seconds or 1 minute automatically get warped out of the spar? Even without these new ties, it's something we've needed forever.