PK needs more variety. The monotonous sword spamming is what made me quit. Add more weapons, add more variety, and you'll get me back.  

Seeya!

I don't think Classic would miss anyone who complains and not offer any real suggestions anyway. Besides, this issue has been addressed over and over again. It'd throw the balance off and make Classic pay to win.  

Oh, I thought this was Zone.
Oops.  

And we can also get 500 new quests for us to still enjoy this game.  

Posted by Blueh

Seeya!

I don't think Classic would miss anyone who complains and not offer any real suggestions anyway. Besides, this issue has been addressed over and over again. It'd throw the balance off and make Classic pay to win.

Not necessarily, I highly doubt they would go the route of play to win. As much as I am okay with the combat system now- it would be somewhat neat to change it up and throw in some things seen in the past. Like the UN spells or the boomerang. Something that is not bought but earned through a quest.

Nothing too drastic though, and the spell idea might be a little too drastic. But what would be really cool is stationary weapons that can be used to pk. Something along the lines of a cannon to defend a fort that shoots cannonballs a far distance for the explosion of a bomb. Or a catapult, that shows you where it can attack and you tap on the screen where you want to fire, and then after it shoots there is a 5-10 second delay until it hits.  

Posted by Lazerlatte

PK needs more variety. The monotonous sword spamming is what made me quit. Add more weapons, add more variety, and you'll get me back.

I dont find pking monotonous, because I dont sword spam in one spot all day...  

As long as the new weapons have a .5 damage im cool with the idea.

Posted by Kendama

Or a catapult, that shows you where it can attack and you tap on the screen where you want to fire, and then after it shoots there is a 5-10 second delay until it hits.

what i would like is a weapon with a "noob running censor", so anytime a noob runs at .05 I could kill him without giving chase.  

The hammer. I never played the old Graal PC game so I don't know how the hammer was used as a weapon against other players. But here's how I see it:

Shorter range than sword, does 1 full heart damage, has a one second "cooldown" period (during which time you can't use ANYTHING, much like the net as of a couple days ago, aka a global cooldown). That one second is just an estimate but basically you'd be able to kill someone standing still at the same rate you'd be able to kill them by spamming sword. So its prime use would be for burst damage. But it wouldn't be overly powerful due to the short range and cool down.

And of course there would be a long and awesome (and difficult!) quest involved in obtaining it. And maybe, just maybe, they could sell "customized" versions of it that just change the appearance of it (kinda like the custom bombs, except purely cosmetic).

Another idea instead of it doing 1 full heart damage is for it to strike multiple people at once (that are standing close together), maybe 3 people maximum, but it would only do regular damage and the cooldown still applies (but perhaps it would be shortened in this case).

I think it could work without throwing off balance, but at the same time giving us a fun new item to work with. And obviously it would also be used to get by those posts to gain access to certain areas (much like the rat morph).  

The purpose of the hammer in past iterations was more along the lines of a stun/slowdown mechanic. Players hit by a hammer would get "squashed" causing them to move slower for a short period of time.  

Posted by Lazerlatte

PK needs more variety. The monotonous sword spamming is what made me quit. Add more weapons, add more variety, and you'll get me back.

Using big words don't make your opinion sound better.  

Posted by Toxic

Using big words don't make your opinion sound better.

That's a pretty standard word to use.  

Posted by Dusty

That's a pretty standard word to use.

Not on Zone.  

Posted by Dusty

The purpose of the hammer in past iterations was more along the lines of a stun/slowdown mechanic. Players hit by a hammer would get "squashed" causing them to move slower for a short period of time.

Yeah, I was also thinking of a stun-type thing, but then we're adding brand new mechanics which would make things a lot more complicated. And I'm not sure how much use a slowdown mechanic would have in Classic's current pk system.

But even just thinking about all these things, there's so much potential! It seems like the dev team is just "playing it safe" when it comes to Classic. Are there even any big updates on the horizon? Like.. Anything to get excited about? Give me some hope, Dusty.  

Posted by Narcosis

Yeah, I was also thinking of a stun-type thing, but then we're adding brand new mechanics which would make things a lot more complicated. And I'm not sure how much use a slowdown mechanic would have in Classic's current pk system.

The issue with using higher damage + high cooldown is that while it would work in 1v1, it would be OP when you have groups of players involved. When you have a group like say... a guild in a tower, suddenly the cooldown no longer serves as a balancing factor. 3 players = no cooldown, and high damage output.

It's best to look into alternative factors that act as status effects rather than messing with damage. I'm not saying it would be a full-out RPG, but looking into things like momentary stun, slow down, and even something like cursed(can't use your sword) would be much better uses of newer items.  

Posted by Crono

Not on Zone.

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