How to make GraalOnline Zone suceed

Chaotic · 12-21-2011

Now, when Zone comes out, you can either make it or break it. With iEra, you released the paid version first instead of the free version. If you released the free version first, you would of gotten a lot more traffic, since iClassic averages about 1k people on and iEra about 600, they all would of wanted to try out the new server. But only about 1/4 of them pay, so that hurts the playercount by a lot for the new server. Plus, if it was free off the start, everyone would download it, and increasing the downloads of it may put it in the top 300, where lots of people would see it, and be potential customers in the long run.

tl;dr release free version of iZone first so more people download it off the start to put it in top 300 apps.

MattKan · 12-21-2011

Posted by Chaotic

tl;dr release free version of iZone first so more people download it off the start to put it in top 300 apps.

Yeah, much much more money would be earned in the long run if the game made it high in the app charts.

Plus there's nothing to say you can't make an ad on Classic and Era saying (Download (link) iZone today for free!)

Froggy Krueger · 12-21-2011

Why not release em both at the same time, rather than stagger them? That way, we have the option ^^

Zero02 · 12-22-2011

Posted by Froggy Krueger

Why not release em both at the same time, rather than stagger them? That way, we have the option ^^

You have a point, if there's a problem with releasing one, why not release both version at same time?

MattKan · 12-22-2011

If both versions are released at the same time then they will be two seperate apps which most likely won't be able to reach the app charts.

HappyCat123 · 12-22-2011

Make one app, then in the menu of the app have a section for 'upgrading' for 2 dollars.

Imprint · 12-22-2011

Posted by Chaotic

Now, when Zone comes out, you can either make it or break it. With iEra, you released the paid version first instead of the free version. If you released the free version first, you would of gotten a lot more traffic, since iClassic averages about 1k people on and iEra about 600, they all would of wanted to try out the new server. But only about 1/4 of them pay, so that hurts the playercount by a lot for the new server. Plus, if it was free off the start, everyone would download it, and increasing the downloads of it may put it in the top 300, where lots of people would see it, and be potential customers in the long run.

tl;dr release free version of iZone first so more people download it off the start to put it in top 300 apps.

They're trying to bank on the fact that people will be so excited for the new server that they'll buy the paid version instead of waiting for a free version to see whether they like it or not. Considering Graal will probably not end up on the top app charts they should be making more money by milking the player base with access to their mommy's credit cards.

Joey · 12-22-2011

Posted by HappyCat123

Make one app, then in the menu of the app have a section for 'upgrading' for 2 dollars.

thats what i was thinking.
dont have a free or paid version. have a GraalOnline Zone.
when u open it theres all the free versions features, but u simply upgrade in one bundle to the paid version. that way the free app goes high in the charts, and u dont have the app downloads staggered from 2 dif apps
good idea street.

and actually u can have ads saying "download the new app! (link)" becuz like on battleonline u can have the somewhat login screen with ads on it. on that screen u could check news, check friends, go to the game, dif stuff. so if u wanted to go through the trouble, u could remake the title screens of classic and era so its like battle online.

Posted by DrDoctor

They're trying to bank on the fact that people will be so excited for the new server that they'll buy the paid version instead of waiting for a free version to see whether they like it or not. Considering Graal will probably not end up on the top app charts they should be making more money by milking the player base with access to their mommy's credit cards.

um i remember era, classic AND battle online were all in the top 100 apps in the free section, but ive never seen them in paid section. yet i bought the full version of all three apps.

Froggy Krueger · 12-23-2011

Posted by MattKan

If both versions are released at the same time then they will be two seperate apps which most likely won't be able to reach the app charts.

You do have a point. If Zone+ was released say 2 weeks after, they'd have more players willing to buy it, possibly leading to the paid version making it into the top 100, or at least the new and hot like Era+ did when it was released.

MattKan · 12-23-2011

If they were to release only a free version with in app purchases it would go even further up the charts.

0ddball · 12-23-2011

I will play iZone even if it suck. That's it.

Crest · 12-23-2011

Posted by MattKan

If they were to release only a free version with in app purchases it would go even further up the charts.

I agree.

Death Knight · 12-24-2011

As much as I love your logical ideas that won't happen all they care about is the money and 'they' think they will get it if paid is released first

Xavier · 12-24-2011

Make one free iZone app, and have the customization pack for $0.99 in the Shop menu. Done.

Emera · 12-24-2011

In an ideal world, all this in-app purchase nonsense would be completely abolished and tiny things like customization should be free to all. I agree that the Gralat pack should be kept however.

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Chaotic busy Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,270	How to make GraalOnline Zone suceed Now, when Zone comes out, you can either make it or break it. With iEra, you released the paid version first instead of the free version. If you released the free version first, you would of gotten a lot more traffic, since iClassic averages about 1k people on and iEra about 600, they all would of wanted to try out the new server. But only about 1/4 of them pay, so that hurts the playercount by a lot for the new server. Plus, if it was free off the start, everyone would download it, and increasing the downloads of it may put it in the top 300, where lots of people would see it, and be potential customers in the long run. tl;dr release free version of iZone first so more people download it off the start to put it in top 300 apps.

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Froggy Krueger a necessary evil Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Upon the marge of Lake Lebarge Posts: 1,458	Why not release em both at the same time, rather than stagger them? That way, we have the option ^^

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MattKan the KattMan Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,204	If both versions are released at the same time then they will be two seperate apps which most likely won't be able to reach the app charts.

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HappyCat123 Professional AFKer Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South East Pennsylvania Posts: 1,888	Make one app, then in the menu of the app have a section for 'upgrading' for 2 dollars.

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MattKan the KattMan Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,204	If they were to release only a free version with in app purchases it would go even further up the charts.

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0ddball Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 295	I will play iZone even if it suck. That's it.

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Death Knight Graal's Chuck Norris Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vic, Australia Posts: 204	As much as I love your logical ideas that won't happen all they care about is the money and 'they' think they will get it if paid is released first

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Xavier Classic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York City Posts: 908	Make one free iZone app, and have the customization pack for $0.99 in the Shop menu. Done.

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Emera Nerd Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 3,825	In an ideal world, all this in-app purchase nonsense would be completely abolished and tiny things like customization should be free to all. I agree that the Gralat pack should be kept however.