Advances in "free" energy happen everyday (although a lot of it is bogus pseudoscience), and it's no question that the industry doesn't like it, and as a result, the so-called illuminati, as the corporate world order is widely referred to, has taken matters into its own hands. Many threats and assassinations have allegedly been made on these scientists and innovators by none other than that order, making it increasingly easier to assume that the oil industry is forecasted to fall relatively soon.

Do you think the world will shift its attention towards electricity and other clean sources of energy? Or will it remain in the costly realm of shotty gasoline and the enterprise of innefficiency?

It's no question that the economy is a huge factor, and the environment likewise. Is it a battle between the economy and the environment, or is it a matter of something more abstract, perhaps the greed of top oil officials?

Eventually, our planet will inevitably be screwed right up the vent of its largest volcano, vastly contributed by the use of fossil fuels, not to mention waste disposal problems and whatnot, but that's out of the question.

If we create a hypothetical situation where economic and environmental factors do not exist, but our current advances in energy technology do exist, where would we be right now, and what would our planet presently look like? In other words, what if the industrial revolution skipped toward our current technological advances, deleting 200 years of lag? Given the results, it's only plausible to replace any outdated dirty technology with modern clean technology.

What's your take?  

I didn't read this cuz I'm lazy right now, but I believe salt water will be the new oil. And that salt water will run our cars. We wouldn't run out for ages. But poor sea animals  

Posted by Its_Nanner

I didn't read this cuz I'm lazy right now, but I believe salt water will be the new oil. And that salt water will run our cars. We wouldn't run out for ages. But poor sea animals

If you're referring to electrolysis/fuel cells, please know that it requires electricity to split the water to produce the HHO gas. This means you would use a battery, which would charge using various methods. The battery is the energy source, not the water.  

We'll move away from oil obviously, the process won't be quick at all though unless something major happens.  

if you can think of a cheap way to fuel massive cargo ships then i'm all ears. until then, enjoy ****ing tons of pollution from ships while the general public/politicians continue to tax and blame cars (******ed), which hardly contribute to pollution in comparison to power production and transport (planes and ships).

i know your thread isn't a general discussion about oil and pollution but i just wanted to post this  

Twiz are you out of your mind?
You should know better than to make a thread about serious issues on graalians.  

Posted by Crono

if you can think of a cheap way to fuel massive cargo ships then i'm all ears. until then, enjoy ****ing tons of pollution from ships while the general public/politicians continue to tax and blame cars (******ed), which hardly contribute to pollution in comparison to power production and transport (planes and ships).

i know your thread isn't a general discussion about oil and pollution but i just wanted to post this

That's a perfectly valid point, and relates to the discussion in every possible way.

You're definitely right about the power production and transport, especially refinery and whatnot, however there are better possible solutions. One of these, as Bananer stated, is water. The water isn't the fuel source, as the water requires electricity to undergo electrolysis (specifically the splitting of water to produce hydrogen/oxygen as separate particles), which we then use as a fuel source. We can produce electrical power via solar, which is undoubtedly suppressed by oil companies, and then electrolyze the water to produce hydrogen as a fuel that can be used for practically anything as long as we can find a way to efficiently store the damn stuff. This includes planes, ships, cars, space craft, electronics (yes, we can use hydrogen fuel cells as a battery for electronics), home appliances, and much more. The best part is that hydrogen burns into water, and thus has virtually no harm on the environment.

As history has it, the only way to change the world is to be rich. This is why small time engine manufacturers are screwed when it comes to the efforts of trying to replace inefficient gas guzzlers.

Fun fact: I posted this thread on physicsforums and it was deleted for "conspiracy" so I decided to post it here instead.  

Idk but my truck's diesel engine won't run on sunlight or whatever hippie **** you are sellin.  

Posted by MrSimons

Idk but my truck's diesel engine won't run on sunlight or whatever hippie **** you are sellin.

have u ever swallowed ur tabaco b4? i want to know if it hurts  

Posted by Yog

have u ever swallowed ur tabaco b4? i want to know if it hurts

no man go for it. feels great goin down.  

While I fully respect you and your values and opinions, and I appreciate your meaning to stimulate discussion on global issues/etc., I suggest maybe moving to a different site to ask these sorts of prompts, such as onlinephilosophyclub.com or something similar, if you are looking for many meaningful, well-thought-out answers, and if you're looking to debate somthing, there's debate.org, or an economical forum of the sort. Most of Graalians' users are around 11-18, so more than half of the community don't know how to drive, let alone enough about the oil industry to make knowledgeable assumptions on these sorts of things - or would even want to bother considering this.
Again, I mean no disrespect or ill-meaning when I state this (I quite enjoy your posts), but perhaps you would be better off posting somewhere else if you're looking for more answers.

TO ANSWER:
Admittedly, I don't know much about the oil industry, however given the recent oil price collapse, I believe the world will begin to phase out of oil usage, and venture into clean energy, especially now that Bill Gates has promised to fund renewable energy and its campaigns. Infact, hydro power is the quickest and most flexible to turn on and off again when needed, and provides 9800% more energy than solar, wind, and biomass energy combined. It is a reliable way of powering homes and other buildings - Norway produces more than 99% of its electricity with hydro power.
I can't find the source, but I do remember somewhere saying that electric cars were more popular than ever, and the usage is rising. This would eliminate the need for petrol fuel in cars if they were to become widespread.  

in terms of power production there's a ton of room for improvement. its quite expensive for these larger countries, though, so it will take time.

Posted by MrSimons

Idk but my truck's diesel engine won't run on sunlight or whatever hippie **** you are sellin.

tfw my 1.5L bottle of coke is bigger than my engine's displacement : - (  

Posted by Platinum

TO ANSWER:
Admittedly, I don't know much about the oil industry, however given the recent oil price collapse, I believe the world will begin to phase out of oil usage, and venture into clean energy, especially now that Bill Gates has promised to fund renewable energy and its campaigns. Infact, hydro power is the quickest and most flexible to turn on and off again when needed, and provides 9800% more energy than solar, wind, and biomass energy combined. It is a reliable way of powering homes and other buildings - Norway produces more than 99% of its electricity with hydro power.
I can't find the source, but I do remember somewhere saying that electric cars were more popular than ever, and the usage is rising. This would eliminate the need for petrol fuel in cars if they were to become widespread.

I definitely agree that hydroelectric power is the way to go. It's effective, water flow is extremely abundant (we have an entire ocean current for god's sake), but it's costly. Once it gets going, however, it'll save all of our electricity problems. That would only work for coastal lands and places with large rivers, so inner cities would have to look towards a different solution. Perhaps solar (also expensive), wind power (pretty effective and clean, but wind farms cover too much land relative to energy output), or some other clean method.

Coal mining creates jobs, and that's where the problem comes in. Some people prefer a better economy than a better environment, but in the end, we can have both if we put forth a solution.

Posted by MrSimons

Idk but my truck's diesel engine won't run on sunlight or whatever hippie **** you are sellin.

Your truck's diesel engine can run more efficiently if you add a solar panel that electrolyzes water to pump HHO into the engine  

Posted by TWIZ

Your truck's diesel engine can run more efficiently if you add a solar panel that electrolyzes water to pump HHO into the engine

Yea but that won't let out a big gnarly cloud of smoke out of my exhaust when I am speeding down the highway.  

Ever heard of....

Tidalelctric genorators?