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BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-04-2013 04:40 AM

I agree with lava, every thread that involves items or trades somehow seems to involve jenny or her gang. Just get off it honestly, it just makes you all out to be jealous of her and must really get annoying to her. Just mind your on business

Rockstar 02-04-2013 05:55 AM

sux2bu

Richard 02-04-2013 06:15 AM

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Posted by LavaClaw (Post 292611)
and what's with the criticism of xoxo and this homophobic bull****?

Sorry. Noone has said anything homophobic

Lava, to the last part; Wait, what?

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 292489)
Think about how ridiculous that sounds.

Thought about it.. still not convinced!

Era News 02-04-2013 06:16 AM

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Posted by Richard (Post 292679)
Sorry. Noone has said anything homophobic


Wait, what?

Snk is totally straight don't listen to this madness!

Spoiler
Nah just kidding, totally gay, didnt ya know?

Fellage 02-04-2013 06:49 AM

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 292469)
This wasn't Angel in XOXO....he took over trading for me and I know for a fact he has no access to a panda hammer. People pose all the time, please ensure your facts are accurate before you slander players in this manner.

It wasn't Angel's panda hammer, it was the guy other guy who I was trading with who owned the panda hammer.

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Posted by failure (Post 292516)
You're jumping to conclusions.
Angel wouldn't scam, at least that's what I believe.
And whoever said that evil and traph were a part of this scam, how do you tie them with all of this?
I really don't agree with this thread at all.
I don't see any proof, and until I do, I'm not going to believe these accusions.

I'm not jumping to conclusions, maybe I haven't made this thread clear enough. I am 95% sure that Angel was in on it. And you don't have to believe this, like I said, I'm just getting the word out. I'm just telling people what happend to me and that they need to be cautious and think twice. Whether people listen to my warning or not is their own issue. I've already done my bit.

Sabur 02-04-2013 08:16 AM

i'm jealousy of jeni because she's close to admin , but i won't talk about here or her gang . but why you making her annoying ?

Era News 02-04-2013 08:34 AM

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Posted by Sabur (Post 292714)
i'm jealousy of jeni because she's close to admin , but i won't talk about here or her gang . but why you making her annoying ?

Do you have to reference admins in every one of your posts? And you should re think that post, your basically saying to not offend jeni because she sucks up to admins?

SnakeRekon 02-04-2013 11:20 AM

Basically; the other account was already in the house previously, at that exact location. So she went "afk" and signed into the other device so she could take the items within seconds (Hackers don't just walk into your house lol)

Gotta be careful of people using modem tapping also when trading.. God knows why people continue to take these risks when you can be scammed so easily

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Posted by LavaClaw (Post 292611)
pics?
no proof to back it up? you have baseless accusations. you are even confused as to who the perpetrator is. it all just looks like slander imo.
and what's with the criticism of xoxo and this homophobic bull****? you forget you play a game managed by a gay and he's a great person.

you people ._.

Realistically, when you're trading with someone you assume to be legit, are you going to sit there taking pictures or just trust the person? lol

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 292642)
I agree with lava, every thread that involves items or trades somehow seems to involve jenny or her gang. Just get off it honestly, it just makes you all out to be jealous of her and must really get annoying to her. Just mind your on business

Could be a trend following if all scam threads seem to be about that gang no?
You can either be blinded or just consider there could actually be a hint of truth to it.

Jeni<3 02-04-2013 11:57 AM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 292775)
Basically; the other account was already in the house previously, at that exact location. So she went "afk" and signed into the other device so she could take the items within seconds (Hackers don't just walk into your house lol)

Gotta be careful of people using modem tapping also when trading.. God knows why people continue to take these risks when you can be scammed so easily



Realistically, when you're trading with someone you assume to be legit, are you going to sit there taking pictures or just trust the person? lol



Could be a trend following if all scam threads seem to be about that gang no?
You can either be blinded or just consider there could actually be a hint of truth to it.

The reason I get pulled into trade threads isn't because I scam or my gang scams, quite the contrary. I never have scammed in my life and have middled for the most valuable items in era. Because I have many friends, some of them are staff, that tends to be the root of pulling me into this stuff along with a few unfortunate situations where I was scammed personally and people tried to stand up for me. This particular thread was about my gang member but this is the first time anyone in XOXO has been formally accused of scamming. I feel for anyone who has been scammed, I hate it and as I have been very vocal before about, I have been there myself one too many times...

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Posted by fsh (Post 292619)
what do you mean by you "dont tolerate it"
because you obviously do,

Proof please sir and I will address it immediately.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-04-2013 12:24 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 292775)
Could be a trend following if all scam threads seem to be about that gang no?
You can either be blinded or just consider there could actually be a hint of truth to it.

Not the case at all, they just always bring her in one way or another and insult her for no reason, often calling her voldemort which i find fairly offensive when she has done nothing wrong by anyone. Even in threads not even slightly related to jeni or her gang, somehow find her name brought up and ridiculed by someone. So no i don't think i'm blind to this matter and i see no
truth to consider other than some people are assholes, although i don't think that was ever difficult to realise.

DaScientist 02-04-2013 12:31 PM

He hacks peoples' accounts too.

Billy 02-04-2013 01:30 PM

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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 292490)
What's so bad about being gay...?

Everything,It's just gay.

XENA* 02-04-2013 01:44 PM

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/b94/961...bic-db2bd0.jpg

Jamie 02-04-2013 03:58 PM

Note: Update on page 1 - looks like I'm not the only one to be scammed by Angel.

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 292775)
Basically; the other account was already in the house previously, at that exact location. So she went "afk" and signed into the other device so she could take the items within seconds (Hackers don't just walk into your house lol)

Gotta be careful of people using modem tapping also when trading.. God knows why people continue to take these risks when you can be scammed so easily



Realistically, when you're trading with someone you assume to be legit, are you going to sit there taking pictures or just trust the person? lol



Could be a trend following if all scam threads seem to be about that gang no?
You can either be blinded or just consider there could actually be a hint of truth to it.

Thankyou Snake, you've pretty much got it spot on there. Lol.

lord greg 02-04-2013 05:58 PM

Hate to break it to you but with no evidence you won't be able to convince too many people.

Mystickk 02-04-2013 06:24 PM

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Posted by XENA* (Post 292815)

XD

TheRookie 02-04-2013 06:47 PM

Listen, all of you are ******ed. (Not really all of you, this is just a line I say to get everyone's attention. If you are offended by this, please fill out the following Hurt Feelings Report and send this over to your local Senator's office.

First of all, this is all dumb. Jeni, as good as your name is, when one takes responsibility of hosting a trade, it means TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.

Therefore, any forseeable and unforseeable situations that occur, it should be in Angel's duty to try the best he (or She?...sheman?) possibly can to prevent the integrity of the trade from going bad.

With that said, because he hosted the trade, it is his fault. However, we are intelligent (hopefully) human beings and learn from our mistakes. So from now on, Angel or whoever needs to find simple strategies to stop this same situation from happening again. But seeing as how it ALREADY has happened again, from two alleged "victims", Angel has already proven himself to have not taken the initiative to even fix the problem from occuring again.

Whether it be changing the way one hosts trades and breaking this normal but heavily flawed routine, then so be it. Regardless, Angel HAS to take responsibility since he ASSUMED that role.

RedBoy786* 02-04-2013 06:50 PM

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Posted by TheRookie (Post 292901)
Listen, all of you are ******ed.

I'm writing your name in my school bully box.

:cry

Fellage 02-04-2013 07:10 PM

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Posted by TheRookie (Post 292901)
Listen, all of you are ******ed. (Not really all of you, this is just a line I say to get everyone's attention. If you are offended by this, please fill out the following Hurt Feelings Report and send this over to your local Senator's office.

First of all, this is all dumb. Jeni, as good as your name is, when one takes responsibility of hosting a trade, it means TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.

Therefore, any forseeable and unforseeable situations that occur, it should be in Angel's duty to try the best he (or She?...sheman?) possibly can to prevent the integrity of the trade from going bad.

With that said, because he hosted the trade, it is his fault. However, we are intelligent (hopefully) human beings and learn from our mistakes. So from now on, Angel or whoever needs to find simple strategies to stop this same situation from happening again. But seeing as how it ALREADY has happened again, from two alleged "victims", Angel has already proven himself to have not taken the initiative to even fix the problem from occuring again.

Whether it be changing the way one hosts trades and breaking this normal but heavily flawed routine, then so be it. Regardless, Angel HAS to take responsibility since he ASSUMED that role.

I agree with what you're saying. Basically what you're saying is; even if he wasn't in on the actual scam, he should take responsibility for it as he was suppose to be hosting a legit, safe trade and it went wrong in his house, no just one occasion, but twice.

Jamie 02-04-2013 07:14 PM

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Posted by Fellage (Post 292919)
I agree with what you're saying. Basically what you're saying is; even if he wasn't in on the actual scam, he should take responsibility for it as he was suppose to be hosting a legit, safe trade and it went wrong in his house, no just one occasion, but twice.

True, but I am now at point of 100% certainty that Angel is in on the scams.

Kiko 02-04-2013 07:15 PM

that really sucks.

Jeni<3 02-04-2013 07:16 PM

He told me he wasn't there...I have no proof and no reason not to believe him. I stopped trading for a reason and am inactive, none of this is my issue at all. Trade at your own risk, everyone knows that. With that said, I do feel for anyone who gets scammed, I know it sucks but unfortunately is a part of the game.

Jamie 02-04-2013 07:42 PM

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 292930)
He told me he wasn't there...I have no proof and no reason not to believe him. I stopped trading for a reason and am inactive, none of this is my issue at all. Trade at your own risk, everyone knows that. With that said, I do feel for anyone who gets scammed, I know it sucks but unfortunately is a part of the game.

Lol, 'he wasn't there'? Tell him to think of something smarter to try and get out of it. How can he have not been in his own house? Really is clutching at straws now.. Anyway, if you want to tell yourself that this isn't true, then fair enough, go ahead. As I've said before, I've done my bit in warning everyone to not make the same mistake I did, if it happens to anyone else then more fool them. Can't say I didn't warn them.

TheRookie 02-04-2013 07:47 PM

Are Admins able to host trades if they wanted to?

Jamie 02-04-2013 07:48 PM

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Posted by TheRookie (Post 292944)
Are Admins able to host trades if they wanted to?

Apparently not, which is a shame, but I understand why.

RedBoy786* 02-04-2013 07:48 PM

nope. they used to be but not anymore with this new policy...

TheRookie 02-04-2013 07:50 PM

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Posted by Jamie (Post 292945)
Apparently not, which is a shame, but I understand why.

What was the reasoning behind that?:unsure:

NCJohn 02-04-2013 08:00 PM

I will scam you all. Anyone want to trade?.

fsh 02-04-2013 08:05 PM

ok u fasrt john no dog just house k

SnakeRekon 02-04-2013 08:31 PM

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Posted by TheRookie (Post 292944)
Are Admins able to host trades if they wanted to?

No, if people get scammed and such we are the ones who'd be held responsible.

that and all we'd be doing all day is hosting trades for people

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Posted by Jamie (Post 292943)
Lol, 'he wasn't there'? Tell him to think of something smarter to try and get out of it. How can he have not been in his own house? Really is clutching at straws now.. Anyway, if you want to tell yourself that this isn't true, then fair enough, go ahead. As I've said before, I've done my bit in warning everyone to not make the same mistake I did, if it happens to anyone else then more fool them. Can't say I didn't warn them.

That really is pushing the boat out there to say he wasn't there in the middle of the trade lol..

Jamie 02-04-2013 08:52 PM

If you search the gang 'Tots' (dont include the quotation marks), you will see Angel is a member of that gang as well as the 2 chaps who assist him with the scam; Traph* and EVIL. Just pointing out that this is another piece of evidence that connects the 3 of them, for anyone who still has doubts.

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 292966)
No, if people get scammed and such we are the ones who'd be held responsible.

that and all we'd be doing all day is hosting trades for people



That really is pushing the boat out there to say he wasn't there in the middle of the trade lol..

I know right. His excuses he's coming up with are amusing me now.

NCJohn 02-04-2013 08:55 PM

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Posted by fsh (Post 292955)
ok u fasrt john no dog just house k

ok sound good man

RedBoy786* 02-04-2013 09:44 PM

Yah it's official. The Angel dude is a scammer. He scammed iNones 45k shells, Yellow Pencil and Cigar. He doesn't have any pictures but there were APPARENTLY witnesses there. Just don't take the risk and let him host your trade for the time being as you'll most likely get scammed.

Very likely, 'Jamie' is telling the truth about him being scammed too as it can't just be a coincidence that Angel faces with two strong scam allegations in one day...

Jamie 02-04-2013 09:58 PM

http://i48.tinypic.com/sct0zb.jpg

Tizy 02-04-2013 10:03 PM

Please don't complain....


/closethread

Jamie 02-04-2013 10:05 PM

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Posted by Tizy (Post 293017)
Please don't complain....


/closethread

If you read the first line you would have realised this isn't a complaining thread, it is a warning thread.

Jeni<3 02-04-2013 10:08 PM

Well, I do trust Angel or I would have never given him XOXO nor risked my reputation in referring trades to him. As I mentioned, I am inactive so it is not like I will sleuth around trying to solve this mystery. It is also not up to me to be judge and jury. I will say as I would to anyone, I am sorry you were scammed, it is an unfortunate reality of the game that I would not wish on anyone. I myself, learned the hard way as well.

Jamie 02-04-2013 10:12 PM

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Posted by Jeni<3 (Post 293027)
Well, I do trust Angel or I would have never given him XOXO nor risked my reputation in referring trades to him. As I mentioned, I am inactive so it is not like I will sleuth around trying to solve this mystery. It is also not up to me to be judge and jury. I will say as I would to anyone, I am sorry you were scammed, it is an unfortunate reality of the game that I would not wish on anyone. I myself, learned the hard way as well.

Like I said before I'm not looking for sympathy or even looking to get my items back, I'm just warning everyone not to make the same mistake I did in trusting Angel. Also, there is no mystery here. Just a simple fact, that Angel is a scammer.

Tizy 02-04-2013 10:14 PM

It doesn't make sense, why would angel scam?
Your not getting your items back. I know angel and he doesn't scam. Ive traded him multiple times. Why are you accusing people when they didnt do anything? And you obviously just joined graalians to complain about this.

ANGEL DOESN'T SCAM!!!!

Jamie 02-04-2013 10:16 PM

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Posted by Tizy (Post 293031)
It doesn't make sense, why would angel scam?
Your not getting your items back. I know angel and he doesn't scam. Ive traded him multiple times. Why are you accusing people when they didnt do anything? And you obviously just joined graalians to complain about this.

I too had traded at Angel's house several times before he finally scammed me, clearly the deal was big enough for him to scam it. Honestly, I couldn't care less for those who are so nieve that they refuse to believe it. If you have to learn the hard way like I did, then go ahead.

Tizy 02-04-2013 10:17 PM

Go ahead and what? Get scammed? I don't believe in Angel scamming me. Leave the forums

Jamie 02-04-2013 10:20 PM

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Posted by Tizy (Post 293037)
Go ahead and what? Get scammed? I don't believe in Angel scamming me. Leave the forums

Bless you.

RedBoy786* 02-04-2013 10:21 PM

I'm not in anyone's side here. BUT, two STRONG allegations in one day? Everything was fine until yesterday, Angel wad reputated and he had hosted many trades, until yesterday. I'm not accusing him of being a scammer since no one is yet to provide any proof but it's just 'fishy' how suddenly the tables are turning and people are starting to call him a scammer and what's even more 'fishy' is that ANOTHER accusation came just a few hours after the first with totally different people.... Hmmmm

Tizy 02-04-2013 10:22 PM

No proof? Then how should we believe you

PoeticFolly 02-04-2013 10:22 PM

Someone want to close this thread? Thanks.

Jeni<3 02-04-2013 10:23 PM

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Posted by RedBoy786* (Post 293042)
I'm not in anyone's side here. BUT, two STRONG allegations in one day? Everything was fine until yesterday, Angel wad reputated and he had hosted many trades, until yesterday. I'm not accusing him of being a scammer since no one is yet to provide any proof but it's just 'fishy' how suddenly the tables are turning and people are starting to call him a scammer and what's even more 'fishy' is that ANOTHER accusation came just a few hours after the first with totally different people.... Hmmmm

RedBoy-in my absence, feel free to sleuth this one out <3

Jamie 02-04-2013 10:27 PM

I trusted Angel more than anyone on Era until he scammed me. I'd traded at his house several times with super rares. But after this, it just goes to show; you can't trust anyone on here, not even those with the highest of reputation. Everyone has their price, and you're nieve to think any differently.

Talon 02-04-2013 10:29 PM

I think everything that needs to be said has been said. With that said, thread closed.

Please take personal matters into private messages. Thanks -


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