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Dread 04-26-2016 02:32 AM

The other day i got pretty offended that the restaurant I was at didn't offer "Jet A" fuel. This was a large turn off because unlike my colleagues, I identify as an attack helicopter and I was not able to fuel up but my other-gendered colleagues were. ON TOP OF THAT, the waiter asked me to leave because apparently my "spinning motions while screaming" (as the waiter explained it) was distracting the customers. To be quite honest I am outraged. That is just plain offensive. I simply can not control it. Now that I am much calmer and my pistons arent pumping as rapidly, I think i could of accepted if they offered me some basic diesel and maybe just told me to quiet down BUT TO INSULT MY ENTIRE KIND? MY GOD. THESE PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO STOP.

What I am trying to say here is this discrimination going on here is unacceptable! down with gender-offensive bathrooms and establishments!! #SayOkayToJetFuelA

PigParty 04-26-2016 03:11 AM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 698957)
It's a noun though. You would say "a man", you would say "a woman" so there is no reason you wouldn't say "a transgender". I don't understand how you can interpret it to be offensive when there's clearly nothing meant by it.

It actually is an adjective.

http://i.imgur.com/rmnRkWl.jpeg

It describes someone. It's a process. Like I said before, it's like saying "A black" or "A gay." There may not be malicious intention behind it, but some people purposely say phrases like that in order to disrespect those communities.

Thallen 04-26-2016 03:27 AM

Well, it can be a noun, but most wikis and other sites cite it as an offensive term:
http://puu.sh/ovV4u/d03a2f9faf.png

That being said, I think transgender people should give some leeway. How the hell is the average person supposed to conclude that the term is offensive? There are a lot of people that shorthand "Jap" for "Japanese person," unaware of how offensive that actually is. Apparently, even the way Mangsi advised us to use it ("a transgender person") is deemed offensive by Wiktionary.

PigParty 04-26-2016 03:31 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 698991)
Well, it can be a noun, but most wikis and other sites cite it as an offensive term:
http://puu.sh/ovV4u/d03a2f9faf.png

That being said, I think transgender people should give some leeway. How the hell is the average person supposed to conclude that the term is offensive? There are a lot of people that shorthand "Jap" for "Japanese person," unaware of how offensive that actually is. Apparently, even the way Mangsi advised us to use it ("a transgender person") is deemed offensive by Wiktionary.

I think it's up to each individual. The problem, in my opinion, was being told it was offensive to someone, but not changing how they describe it to that person. If I called someone a "jap" and they told me they found it offensive and to describe them as japanese, or a japanese person, I would change how I described them.

Eugeen 04-26-2016 03:33 AM

I find it honestly stupid how you can get upset about something like a pronounciation

PigParty 04-26-2016 03:41 AM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 698998)
I find it honestly stupid how you can get upset about something like a pronounciation

I think it's dumb to not call someone by a different term if they prefer that one better because they feel the other is offensive. That's what's actually stupid.

Eugeen 04-26-2016 03:44 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699000)
I think it's dumb to not call someone by a different term if they prefer that one better because they feel the other is offensive. That's what's actually stupid.

Ofcourse, but you won't know that until you talk to a person.

Everyone just has to stop being a sensitive little witch nowadays lol

PigParty 04-26-2016 03:50 AM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 699004)
Ofcourse, but you won't know that until you talk to a person.

Everyone just has to stop being a sensitive little witch nowadays lol

Mangsi just pointed out and never thought that anyone meant disrespect. He explained why he and others think it can be offensive. The problem was some people don't care to change how they described it for Mangsi even though he said he preferred it termed another way.

Mangsi 04-26-2016 05:30 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699008)
Mangsi just pointed out and never thought that anyone meant disrespect. He explained why he and others think it can be offensive. The problem was some people don't care to change how they described it for Mangsi even though he said he preferred it termed another way.

Exactly.

Now, like stated in the past: the simple term, "transgender" can be offensive to some people. It all depends on who you're talking to. Like, I know no one ment any disrespect today. But I pointed out for future reference that saying it one way can be taken as offensive, but some people may take all ways of saying it as offensive.

No, we are not, "special snowflakes" or anything like that. We're just trying to find some respect in this world full of hate.

5hift 04-26-2016 12:02 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699000)
I think it's dumb to not call someone by a different term if they prefer that one better because they feel the other is offensive. That's what's actually stupid.

I think it's dumb that people need to invent their own pronouns just so they can feel special and comfortable.

I know there are transgender people out there who actually feel like they fit in one gender more than the other but why the actual **** would they feel the need to use fake ass pronouns for their fake ass gender?

He, she, it or whatever. Nobody actually cares about what you want to call yourself.

All that matters is you form the pinnacle of pretentiousness whenever you demand people call you by a fake pronoun or gender that others won't even bother acknowledge on a day to day basis just so you can feel comfortable.

Stop trying to get offended over irrelevant ****, pathetic tumblristas.

PigParty 04-26-2016 12:09 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 699108)
I think it's dumb that people need to invent their own pronouns just so they can feel special and comfortable.

I know there are transgender people out there who actually feel like they fit in one gender more than the other but why the actual **** would they feel the need to use fake ass pronouns for their fake ass gender?

He, she, it or whatever. Nobody actually cares about what you want to call yourself.

All that matters is you form the pinnacle of pretentiousness whenever you demand people call you by a fake pronoun just so you can feel comfortable.

Stop trying to get offended over irrelevant ****, pathetic tumblristas.

It's an adjective in the dictionary, so it's gramatically incorrect to use it as a noun. When people use it in a derogatory way, they have a right to be offended. That means when people use it but don't mean to offend anyone, it gets grouped in with the same people who do use it derogatorily. Calling someone a 'cracker' is offensive, calling someone 'A black' is offensive. You're ignorant and show it. Apparently you're 'above' respecting basic human beings. It's the exact, exact same thing with nicknames. Your friend's named Joe, but doesn't like that name and wants to be called Jack, out of respect, you call him Jack. The only reason this is different is because you're ignorant about the transgender issue.

5hift 04-26-2016 12:52 PM

Oh I'm ignorant about this issue?

That's intersting, last I checked I didn't have to call my friends something else just because I wanted respect.

I call somebody what they are because its the truth. Not something thought up by a bunch of tilted feminists.

The whole idea that people need to be called something else so they can feel comfortable is absolute pathetic. And calling those who just don't care enough to do so "cis" or "transphobic" is ****ing ******ed.

Did everyone suddenly decide to become sensitive pricks all of a sudden? Since when did the world revolve around you feeling comfortable and not offended?

You people literally spoiled babies who want to be called something else instead of who you really are.

Grow up and realize the world isn't designed as a gigantic safe-space

Oh and for the record, what I said had literally nothing to do with calling people racial slurs so nice job really butchering my statement.

I swear, this is what you people always do. Somebody tries to make a point and you somehow try to make the person look like a rasicst or something so you seem "morally superior".

Rationality is lost on you.

PigParty 04-26-2016 01:30 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 699129)
One big childish tantrum.

I can't help but lol. My race statement was an example, but because you feel attacked, you get all defensive and blow everything at you way out of proportion. Who's the prick now? Still you.

5hift 04-26-2016 01:38 PM

Well hey, whatever makes you feel like you're on top of things.

It's easy to just call a person ignorant but its a pain in the ass to actually go in depth to explain why we see things the way we do.

Last I checked, calling a person "she" when she wants to be called "he" or vice versa isn't the same as calling a black person a "n****r".

Mangsi 04-26-2016 03:23 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 699136)
Last I checked, calling a person "she" when she wants to be called "he" or vice versa isn't the same as calling a black person a "n****r".

It's highly offensive though? I'd like my pronouns respected. Every other transgender person wants their pronouns respected, so why be an ass about, because it's inconvenient for you?


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