i think transgender people are weird.
im just kidding, calm down....or am i?

To the bolded text, yes and true.

Inconvenient to me?

Nah, how about illogical, irrelevant, and immature?

What exactly do either of us have to gain from calling each other different pronouns?

Respect?

Psh, last bit of respect I got out of this was being labeled as a "normie" or "cis".

Don't think just because you decided to make a "life" decision about your gender or whatever, everyone is gonna hop on board and everything will be perfect.

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I don't understand why people hate others for being a Caucasian, cis, male. It makes absolutely no sense to me, when you don't choose your race, sex, or gender. I also don't understand why you can't just respect others? I'm sorry if you, or anyone else feels attacked, or disrespected. But I'm simply standing up for myself and others like me, who hardly get any respect in this world.

I mean, cmon, do you have to fight to use the correct bathroom? Do you have to worry about being attacked every single time you walk out the door, just because you're being yourself? No.

I know you don't give two sh*ts about it, but it would mean a lot to me and every single other transgender person in the world if you would just take the time to respect our pronouns. It may seem stupid as hell to you, because you don't have to deal with being mis-gendered every day, but it's something we will fight the rest of our lives.

I also don't expect everyone to hop on board with it, nothing is perfect in this world. So we have to fight to make it better for ourselves and others.

Life itself is one big fight no matter who you are.

I pretty much draw the line though when people who's lives aren't even that bad have to go out of their way to make it seem sooooo much worse than it really is.

I've got a friend who is attempting to get into this trans thing and he seems to be doing alright but he's not pestering everyone not to trigger or mislabel him. That I can deal with.

But when a bunch of cringy millennials get all tilted because they refuse to use either bathroom or somebody accidentally calls them by the wrong ****ing pronoun, it just pisses me off.

Gender isn't supposed to be some ID tag attached to your ass where everyone can see.

One thing I don't understand,

Let's say you are MTF - wouldn't you just naturally walk in and use the female washroom anyways since you identify as a female? It doesn't seem too hard for you to just walk in, use it, and then leave. You aren't there to socialize and party so I doubt anyone would even care unless you went out of your way to talk to people (which you shouldn't do in a washroom).
If someone does care you can easily explain it to them.

Seems like an in and out operation you guys could already be doing but instead made it a national issue by talking instead of doing.

Stop waiting for everyone else to stick up for you and say everything is going to be ok and just do it already.

It's just pretentiousness... It's the same pretentiousness that causes a Black Lives Matter supporter to get full-body triggered over the #AllLivesMatter hashtag.

I think that, after significant social change, minority groups (not blacks, as in groups that contain a very small percentage of population) don't immediately look for equality... They first look for coddling, as if it counts as repayment for what happened in the past.

That's probably a big part of the self-loathing white male phenomenon, where it's "cool" to hate yourself for being privileged at the assumption it'll make you seem more politically correct and considerate to minority issues.

People blabber their mouths for validation & support all the time; a lot of transgenders don't have a lot of validation or support. Especially when you are excited or nervous, you tend to talk to ease the nerves.

It makes sense that many insecure trans-genders who have been given a very horrible, raw deal & abandoned by their families have unintentionally opened the doors to a bunch of mouthy *****s, and now unfortunately the psychotic predators won't shut up & admit that all they needed to do was stepup with the love of the Lord & validate these poor souls instead of taking further from them.

As it stands, however, people like to play self-esteem & validation like a game of chess; the more they see someone needs it, the more they take it—because they live in a predatory dog-eat-dog system. Rather than admitting that this kind of power is more than any mortal man, let alone society should implement—they abuse it. "You're feeling insecure, so you must deserve it! Plus it'll be fun to grind your nerves and make me feel like the victim to get attention & applause!!!!!! Stop the tranny from using the stall!"

Capitalism is the devil. It created a self-centered society rather than a loving society; those who need the validation tend to have to fight for it, and those who don't tend to get fed more of it. It's sad.

I've been told to leave a restroom before, I didn't pass very well. So someone said, "Go use the female restroom.", they were just guessing I was trans, but it's things like that, that make us need to fight the bathroom issue.

I never said a word to anyone that day in the restroom, but someone just guessed I was trans and asked me to leave the mens restroom.

We can be minding our own business and still be harassed in the restroom. So yes, it is just an in and out thing for us, until others start bugging us.

You realize African Americans pretty much went through the exact same thing back when segregation was still around?

The idea is to stop acting like a victim and start to take up responsibility.

Segregation wasn't ended by a bunch of tilted millennials running around calling white people crackers and blaming the system for everything.

It was brave people like MLK who stood up, who didn't complain but told the truth for what it really was.

Right now, you have the choice to stand up for what you believe or get tilted and complain about everything.

If you're going to fight for your rights then do it in a subtle and respectful way that doesn't make the world think you and others like you are total asshats.

Unfortunately, there will always be people like that who will get noticed more than you who wishes to do things the right way.

I don't see that as a trans issue, that's something more general. If a cis female with masculine features enters the girls' restroom, she may also experience that type of harassment. I mean, people may actually think you're a cis female trying to enter the men's room (for whatever reason). Maybe it's impolite of them, but some people just aren't polite.

The more interesting conversation is getting to the bottom of why we have separate bathrooms. Is it for protection? Can we assume that if males are able to use the same bathrooms as females, there will be a significantly higher risk of rape, molestation, and things like that? Well, probably. That being said, I don't think it's wrong of someone to be concerned when they see someone entering (as they perceive) the "wrong" bathroom.

Exactly ^

You think people shoulder cater to your needs and respect what you want, so maybe transgenders who are MTF or FTM but don't actually look like it should respect how uncomfortable it may be for people when someone strolls in a females washroom but looks 100% like a male or the other way around. It's not because they hate you or think you shouldn't be trans it's just human instinct that it makes them uncomfortable.

If someone doesn't like seeing you in the washroom, they still won't like it either when it becomes legal so you may as well just not care and do whatever because they will dislike it either way.

Actually, black rights were obtained through eons of suffering, war, rebellion, fighting, and arguing. MLK did not end segregation. MLK became a face for peaceful protest in the mass media, and over glorified as somehow collectively inspiring everyone to stand up for what they already believed in.

The mass media is a joke, and a lie. It creates celebrities as dangling worms for a myriad of governmental reasons. The government doesn't keep people in check by accident. They knew that the entire capitalist system was a joke, and evil lie, and that the whole system needs uprooted & restarted. They know that money is a witchcraft lie, out of control & people obsessed with it.

So, instead, they created an idol of "the appropriate way to handle segregation" to counteract justice. That is, they have post-poned justice by pretending to support it by creating a dangling-worm of glory for the African Americans to be distracted with. Then, rather than rioting and taking what belongs to them and their ancestors—they'd just sit around, lose their culture, wear suits, and talk like everyone else.

That is, counteract the black riots & African culture by using the power of the media to glorify a Caucasianized black man as "somehow being the collective spark that ignited the force". The media doesn't talk about what it talks about by accident; it isn't sparked through divine inspiration, either. It is meticulously chosen, and the "methods for retrieving justice" are methodically outlined & seduced to keep the current powers in power with very little chip off their shoulder, although they probably should be beheaded altogether & the system uprooted.