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Mangsi 04-26-2016 07:04 PM

I understand it may make them uncomfortable, but at the same time: I've done all I can to pass. I'm to young to start on hormones, so at this point I'm transitioned as far as I can be. I try to use the family restroom whenever I can, to reduce discomfort for myself and others. But if there is no family restroom, I'll use the male restroom. Because I look to masculine to be in the female restroom, and get odd looks when I go in there. But at the same time I'm to feminine still to be in the male restroom.

I think the best option for the restroom issue is to make all restrooms gender neutral. It may come with some protection risks, but any *********, rapist, or any other bad person can walk into any restroom right now and prey on little girls/boys. There's no bouncer standing at the door of every restroom asking what your sex is, so I mean, what's really going to change if all restrooms are gender neutral?

Thallen 04-26-2016 07:18 PM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 699242)
I think the best option for the restroom issue is to make all restrooms gender neutral. It may come with some protection risks, but any *********, rapist, or any other bad person can walk into any restroom right now and prey on little girls/boys. There's no bouncer standing at the door of every restroom asking what your sex is, so I mean, what's really going to change if all restrooms are gender neutral?

The amount of mass-scale deconstruction and reconstruction necessary to make this happen would be insane. Practically every public establishment in the country would need to undergo (what many would consider to be) an unnecessary change, coming out of their own pockets. Women and men do things in their respective bathrooms that the opposite gender probably doesn't care to see.

I don't think many females want to experience walking into a gender-neutral restroom at a bar, where some douchebag at a urinal turns around and waves his **** at her. I doubt many men want to experience bloody pads festering around. Separation for protection and privacy needs is a good thing.

Everyone who is "weird" in one way or another has to have thicker skin than the average person. For example, ugly people experience a lot of harassment. We have collectively come to the conclusion that it's pretty damn rude to point and laugh at someone if we think they're ugly, thus it's socially unacceptable. I think it's fair to say that transgender people are becoming a lot more accepted in the First World. It's not socially acceptable to harass transgender people. That doesn't mean that no one is allowed to do it or that no one will do it. There are people who will always harass those who are transgender, ugly, handicapped, African American in a predominantly Caucasian community, etc.

Conquest 04-26-2016 07:42 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 699225)
It's just pretentiousness... It's the same pretentiousness that causes a Black Lives Matter supporter to get full-body triggered over the #AllLivesMatter hashtag.

I think that, after significant social change, minority groups (not blacks, as in groups that contain a very small percentage of population) don't immediately look for equality... They first look for coddling, as if it counts as repayment for what happened in the past.

That's probably a big part of the self-loathing white male phenomenon, where it's "cool" to hate yourself for being privileged at the assumption it'll make you seem more politically correct and considerate to minority issues.

I wholly agree with what you said, but I really don't think people understand the amount of discrimination that disabled people or LGT people tend to face. I say LGT, because bisexuals, in fact, are actually commonly overprivileged rather than underprivileged. It is a misnomer to assume that asking for acceptance for their sexuality, that their personality is collectively discriminated; by far & large, the media is riddled with bisexuals, and they do not struggle with their personality in public, but rather are glamorized.

As for homosexuals & transgenders, I can tell you that it is severely bad. They are such a small minority, not like being black or something else—so protection for them does not come easy. It is very easy to say, "Wow. That person discriminated you for being black! That was wrong!" It's very different when it comes to men who may have a lisp or some other gay characteristic that comes out if they don't spend extra attention to control it, or a transgender.

I still face discrimination & violence on a daily; it never ends. Just a few days ago I was harassed at the library by some men trying to make a joke out of me and bait me to see if I was going to check them out to try and sleep with them, and openly said nasty things to me—looking me straight in the eye when they did it very intimidating at an open volume without shake, fear, remorse, or anyone chiming in to the hateful comments.

Society is very dangerous for us, and every moment is a stressful decision on how much energy we want to invest in covering up our natural voices, demeanors, opinions, hopes, dreams, & needs.

Honen 04-26-2016 07:43 PM

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PigParty 04-26-2016 08:55 PM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 699242)
I understand it may make them uncomfortable, but at the same time: I've done all I can to pass. I'm to young to start on hormones, so at this point I'm transitioned as far as I can be. I try to use the family restroom whenever I can, to reduce discomfort for myself and others. But if there is no family restroom, I'll use the male restroom. Because I look to masculine to be in the female restroom, and get odd looks when I go in there. But at the same time I'm to feminine still to be in the male restroom.

I think the best option for the restroom issue is to make all restrooms gender neutral. It may come with some protection risks, but any *********, rapist, or any other bad person can walk into any restroom right now and prey on little girls/boys. There's no bouncer standing at the door of every restroom asking what your sex is, so I mean, what's really going to change if all restrooms are gender neutral?

Problem is it creates opportunity. Yes, they can walk into any bathroom right now, but a lot of crime arises from opportunity. Some guy sees a good looking girl walk in, they might be motivated more than they would have been. I was thinking transgender people should go to the one they identify as, or new laws should be made requiring a neutral gender bathroom (family bathrooms could be easily converted) and you can choose your gender identity's bathroom, or the open one.

In response to the Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter controversy (since someome mentioned it here) I had someone come to my school to speak on that issue, and in the flier it said this, which I never thought of befofe, which I found very interesting, and true.

http://i.imgur.com/E3Bkicd.jpeg

Fulgore 04-26-2016 09:38 PM

In a school newspaper with written in articles, I kid you all not, there was an article telling all white people that their criticisms were irrelevant, and a teaser at the next week's edition where an article about why "white people should not be allowed to procreate" yet people still sympathize with the writer for whatever reason. I guarantee if I submitted the exact same writing and switched the word "white" with any other color, I'd be expelled. It's instances like that where I have come to despise the BLM movement, for attempting to shame me just because I was born white, and then expect me to not only submit to it, but then to tell me that any criticism of the article I may have is irrelevant because I'm white.

But remember kids, racism can't happen both ways.

PigParty 04-26-2016 10:29 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 699287)
In a school newspaper with written in articles, I kid you all not, there was an article telling all white people that their criticisms were irrelevant, and a teaser at the next week's edition where an article about why "white people should not be allowed to procreate" yet people still sympathize with the writer for whatever reason. I guarantee if I submitted the exact same writing and switched the word "white" with any other color, I'd be expelled. It's instances like that where I have come to despise the BLM movement, for attempting to shame me just because I was born white, and then expect me to not only submit to it, but then to tell me that any criticism of the article I may have is irrelevant because I'm white.

But remember kids, racism can't happen both ways.

I can't stand some of the black community movements usually because they play the race card where race was never a factor. When they started using cases like Ferguson as an example for racial discrimination, that's when you realize you can't trust them. It's sad because yes, there still is a racial issue in some areas and in some situations, but they undermined their own movement so much that hardly anyone can take it seriously anymore.

I also think it's humorous that people say "reverse racism" as if racism only applies to black people by white people. i never got that memo. The Good Wife had an episode where they mentioned reverse racism and made fun of it. It was a good episode.

Ghettoicedtea 04-26-2016 10:44 PM

How come no one is mentioning the "child slavery" that happens in the US with illegal immigrants? Why are we turning a blind eye on that?

MikvaGraal 04-28-2016 05:27 PM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 699242)
I understand it may make them uncomfortable, but at the same time: I've done all I can to pass. I'm to young to start on hormones, so at this point I'm transitioned as far as I can be. I try to use the family restroom whenever I can, to reduce discomfort for myself and others. But if there is no family restroom, I'll use the male restroom. Because I look to masculine to be in the female restroom, and get odd looks when I go in there. But at the same time I'm to feminine still to be in the male restroom.

I think the best option for the restroom issue is to make all restrooms gender neutral. It may come with some protection risks, but any *********, rapist, or any other bad person can walk into any restroom right now and prey on little girls/boys. There's no bouncer standing at the door of every restroom asking what your sex is, so I mean, what's really going to change if all restrooms are gender neutral?

Why can't you be normal?

CM 04-28-2016 05:38 PM

Because being normal is boring

Mangsi 04-28-2016 05:53 PM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 699964)
Why can't you be normal?

I would be if I could be m8

Conquest 04-28-2016 05:55 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 699310)
How come no one is mentioning the "child slavery" that happens in the US with illegal immigrants? Why are we turning a blind eye on that?

Not enough Facebook likes for it yet.

GOAT 04-29-2016 05:21 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 699310)
How come no one is mentioning the "child slavery" that happens in the US with illegal immigrants? Why are we turning a blind eye on that?

YOOO GIT screw the illegals bro, they don't matter as Trump is going to get rid of them suckers soon. But what about all the legal white child slaves in the US? Unixmad has been using child slavery since 1999. Antago, Dusty, Coco, and the many countless of poor souls. Why are we turning a blind eye to #WhiteChildLivesMatter

preach brother, let's make america great again

Conquest 04-29-2016 05:52 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 700251)
YOOO GIT screw the illegals bro, they don't matter as Trump is going to get rid of them suckers soon. But what about all the legal white child slaves in the US? Unixmad has been using child slavery since 1999. Antago, Dusty, Coco, and the many countless of poor souls. Why are we turning a blind eye to #WhiteChildLivesMatter

preach brother, let's make america great again

Right! #WhiteChildSlavery
Forget the fact I'm 1/8th Native American; forget that I am a shaman in the tribe. Forget it all. I'm a handsome white male, so apparently nothing really happened to me. & Poor Dusty & Coco. Those talented souls. FYI, if the world was right I'd be paying them thousands & thousands of dollars a month, with direction.

#ShedATear

Colin 04-29-2016 06:34 PM

Conquest, that isn't child slavery.

They are volunteering to do it, maybe you should take a break from Graal it seems to be negatively affecting your perception of reality.

Child slavery is a real problem, and Graal is not part of it.


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