Merging Accounts With Another Player?
 

That's really unfair because there are people who have gotten away with it. One person I know at the top of my head is Nuno if you know him. It really shouldn't be allowed though, but since others have done it, it's not right to ban others. Rules on iClassic need to be stated somewhere...

Exactly!, actually I'm working on this, I just need to know mostly every ban reason. I tried asking them for every rule over e-mail, but they didn't respond so I'll have to search myself. As soon as I feel the site is being "ok", I'll publish the link here.

Telling people that you can't do something does not mean that they aren't going to.

May be you're right, but I have seen a lot of people violating rules, and the surprise was they didn't even know that they're actually violating those. It would be an advice for people who do really care and who do obey rules, plus people couldn't say "I didn't know I was violating any rule!" while being punished by a staff, since hopefully some staff would give him a second chance. If you do up a website and publish it in-game, people would get banned all the time without any warning, what I personally do prefer if you even take your own time to publish the rules. Do you get what I mean, sir?

I agree actually. I was mad when she did it because her stats shot up.

Yeah, but it helps to know at least so I can warn her. She thinks it's okay which is the problem.

Yeah, but it helps to know at least so I can warn them. They think it's okay which is the problem.[/QUOTE]

^^^^ my speech.

There are no confusing or complicated scenarios whereby you could potentially get banned. If you are doing something bad, you know that you're doing something bad, and you will get banned for it. It really is just common sense, so I don't think this is really a factor.

As for whether or not this is legal, I don't know. There are mixed messages in regards to this, with people getting banned for sharing accounts, meging accounts, selling accounts. I understand why this is done, because there is no way to check whether someone stole an account or bought it, etc. It's either this or there will just be no support for accounts, but the e-mail you get states:

Warning: only approve the access for trusted people, your are responsible for what is done with your account.

So that doesn't help. I guess the staff need to decide first :D

How about this scenario:

You go on five different accounts to do the pyrat quest, earn 1.000 on each account, makes 5.000 Gralats at all, and then, you finally transfer them to your account. Keep doing that for a month and I bet you'll get banned, but I bet people didn't know about this, too.

If you don't know that you shouldn't be doing this then you are an idiot lol.

How so? You don't harm anyone, you don't glitch nor do you bug anything, why would you think that you're violating the rules? I understand you, but imagine you're in the age of 8-13.. you wouldn't even be thinking of that scenario.
I even see adolescents who are doing this and yet they didn't know it belongs to violating the rules. Of course, rules are connected to common sense, but you can define any rule you want, especially if you're a staff. That's the point, and I think 10 years old don't think the same as 20 years old, do you?

My only responce:
Make a tablet and write all the rules down that an get you banned -_- right now I classic is much more of a do-as-you-wish game with no restrictions(that can be found in writing or text)

They may already have this so don't jump me for this. But how about for identifying yourself on another device, it only allows you to use the original account if permission is given from both ends. But say something unfortunate happens like your first device breaks or gets lost and you want a transfer, you email Classic staff like normal. Then from there they can just merge accounts checking with both account emails. This way it'd prevent illegal merging of stats and gralats and say your friend is on your account for some reason (which is probably a stupid thing in the first place) it won't merge stats, only allow the, to use your account. Which can still cause a great deal of damage still, but now you don't necessarily lose everything and they don't get everything you own now. Again, that may already be out there so I'm not even sure if this paragraph was necessary lol.

Oh remembered a huge one. Leader of Nerv I believe he goes by Saint is Inde's account if anyone knows him. 90% of his kills and his whole spar is a lie, that was Inde.

I think it would be fine if the person who's account you are merging is okay with it. But then again there is no way to check.

My friend had apparently merged the two accounts of hers and her friends together without her friends permission and got banned. Yeah, it was wrong she took the account, but I'm looking back at Rufus' quote saying:

You are responsible, but at the same time staff are supposed to help for an account that you chose to lend a friend and trusted with which is your own fault.

Nuno <3

Staff are not supposed to help if account sharing is something that is deemed as acceptable, this is the whole point. You can either share accounts and deal with your own problems or you can not share accounts and get banned for doing so. You'll not find an MMORPG that allows or offers support for those that are sharing accounts. It isn't about the money, it's because it is difficult to offer support for.

• Someone sells their account to another player, decides they want it back a month later. What are staff supposed to do here? It is difficult to scope proof that the account was sold. The only indication is the activity on the account, but this proves very little.
  
  
• Someone shares their account with their friend, it gets banned because of that friend. We've all heard the excuses, and the original account owner will not be unbanned for this reason. If sharing is acceptable then it opens up to a whole journey of excuses like this.
  
  
• Someone shares their account with a friend, decides to give their farm or transfer their account to someone/somewhere else. How do you define the ownership of content if the content is being shared? Again, this is not something that can be dealt with and leads to more problems.
  
  
• A newer player is scammed out of their account with the promise of becoming staff or the other popular methods. The player could be lying and using this excuse for a bad trade, or they could have legitimately been scammed. Are the staff supposed to deal with issues when doing things like this is regarded as legal?

Account sharing, account selling, account lending, blah blah blah, it is all wrong. The e-mail that you get should not say what it does because it introduces crap like the above. Mixed messaging!!

There was one who did in this case. Same person who got Voyage back for Kendema. I quote from the persons status directly (In-game named is "Squiggles"):

I don't know the full story. I've been asking both Sour and Squiggles about it and it's hard to understand the situation. Now obviously I don't think I should contact the staff who did this since it seems like a personal matter, but according to Squiggles he did offer support in getting her account back.

You know perfectly well that this is an extraordinary situation.

It looks to me that it falls under this:

I have similar problem going on with my account.
I emailed them to transfer my account month ago, but they never did it for me. I tried to transfer my account, because it wasn't actually mine. My situation is more intricated. I had a friend in the middle school when I was in ESL and he recommended to me about graal. So I started in August which I was in vacation heading to the Florida, because it was too boring and hot. I don't know anything about this game and never played any game before. I start off with non-vip and I like how they communicate without any pressure. Soon as I bought many items, my ESL friend told me to identify myself using VIP, but I notice they will send a junk pile of mails to me. So I told him I don't need it, he suggested me that he can borrow his email. Of course, it was too good for me. I can make any troubles, nothing to worry about. Who knew I would play this game over a year? It was completely wrong we are now both in high school freshman, he is still in ESL. Well, I find out that they don't send any extra mails by making a second account, that means he lied to me. I feel uncomfortable afterwards and just want to transfer my account to my email.

Because it is a online world. All crapsituations happens in the online community. I think that is why this forum made for. So we can share ideas, solve any issues and problems all that stuff.

I suppose I know nothing about Squiggles's situation, but with Kendama and Voyage it has almost nothing to do with account sharing or scamming.

Oh yeah I know. What was done with that was fine. I was just mentioning that the same staff had done a transfer in another situation.

I don't get it :(

Believe it or not, there's a few people who have a little morale. But a good purpose for publishing graal rules is so that players can't argue that they shouldn't have been banned. It would would also serve as Graal Polices' guidelines of what deserves a ban or not. Some GPs ban for reasons (sometimes ridiculous reasons) that a different GP would not ban for. (for example different GPs say different things about certain tower blocking situations)

Mmm.. Online produce all the causes like email sharing/lending, forum reduces the causing of anger by solving our problem, but you are just saying it's all wrong because it's illegal then why is this an online game?

Just do a website yourself and don't give a flying bullet to what the others say. If Rufus thinks it's a waste of time, you don't have to think the same eh.
Of course, account sharing could bring up all those problems you states Rufus, but you could use it perfectly for a website which explains you the problems of account sharing.
I may use your words for myown @Rufus

Well..uh Rufus already said everything. In my opinion, I don't think they should get banned for transferring accounts unless if the other player was selling the account to them for irl money. Also if they hacked it too. For all the players that have merged accounts, if they were your friend, why would you even take their accounts even if they "quit"? Seriously, you obviously care more about your stats than your friends >:|.

When you identify it should only grant you access to the account you're trying to enter instead of merging stats. It would require both end permission, and would "swap" them in a sense but wouldn't allow you to access that account unless another both-ends identify was granted. For account merging it should be done directly by staff to prevent theft, sellings and scammings.

Another person who has stats that arent his is Albus. Albuse's stats are not his at all.

Um...

Is there away to see a list of accounts that you have used on your device? or that you have been granted access to?

So if I transferred my acct to twilit here he suddenly has 700k kills that's legal since I allowed it? Lol