Best Guild Members
 

I think Blake, Male, and Winter are very loyal and very skilled. Probably a lot of other people to. Also US and Mother were lucky to have such good members for as long as they did (not specifically the ones I named above).

This thread should go into "Graal Guild Centre" since this is about members and guilds, and also, i dont really even see a point to this thread...

Anyone from Gem is not a good member

You're not one to talk.

Anybody that actually makes me lol gets a rep
Ya those are good followers maybe one day they will have the tools to be good leaders and move on.
Has nothing to do with luck. It has to do with being a tryhard and playing graal for fame or importance. Take mothers idevice noobs the only reason they joined was because rufus didn’t like them enough or weren’t good enough to join his guild (thx to rashuuuurdddd) that was the spar guild to be in. That’s why some of them are leaving now cause they know theyre not going to win the idevice gst. Same thing goes to the US idevice noobs. At least they were able to win a couple gst’s but their idevicers joined for the same reason plus they wanted to kiss rufus rear but I doubt they will leave rufus because well its rufus. (his biches love him).

I think most people enter tournaments because they want to win.

It would probably be better if GST had a league though.

When people can just leave guilds to join ones they think have a better chance of winning whenever they want GST isn't as much of an event to look forward to. I don't even know if there will be 4 good guilds in it without fast teams are breaking up and making new teams.

Male's pretty much the only person I've taken from iClassic. Everyone else comes across as expendable (usually by their own choice and doing). Guilds are ******ed on this game, I just limit it to a group of friends and some acquaintances. Enguard will always be loyal and trustworthy though, so that's good enough for me.

If your guild falls apart over the GST then it's not a guild, it's just a bunch of randoms coming together to feel self-important in an effort to win a hat and statue that, after 24 hours, no one really cares much about.

I was thinking the same thing, maybe sparrers or gst would benefit from having some kind of league. The league could be similar to a bowling league where you would pay a small fee then your randomly placed on a team. Then your team would spar several other teams on a set night of the week in best 2 out of three matches. Each team would get 1 point per win,who ever had the most spar points at the end of the season wins. The League season would run from the week after gst till a week before the next gst.

There could also be a league tourny where the top how many ever teams at the end of the season would spar against each other in a gst type tournament.

Aw :]
Clops may lead a guild that has been somewhat dormant in recent years, but it remains the oldest and one of the most respected. He is a great leader, and is also well respected. He was also able to lead a handful of his guild members to the finals in a GST in the past. Knowledgeable, skillful, and respectable.

Graal needs more leaders like this than bunches of dead guilds and drifters. With better guild leaders like Clops, Rufus, Thallen, etc., players tend to make their home in a guild and find new friends, building guild loyalty around the entire relationship network.

Nobody in US just joined, they were chosen by the guild leader and members collectively. We carefully took note of different players attitudes, personalities, sportsmanship, playing style, etc. and decided on a player to ask to join. We never recruited anyone strictly for GST. We've had people removed for one reason or another, and players have left in the past. Our guild framework has nothing to do with the GST. We simply participate like everyone else.

When you say nobody will leave Rufus because, well, its Rufus... I feel like Graal in general seems to have a different opinion of him than most of our guild members. I mean, he's a person like us, and a friend. He's also a leader, and a pretty darn good one at that. I don't think any of our members are attracted to the guild simply because of him. That almost sounds absurd to me lol. The members will always make the guild. The leader is the head and the members form the heart.

The individual player makes the option to join or not join (when I said rufus didn’t like them enough or weren’t good enough pretty much implied he chose them)
Rufus didn’t like Eddy yet he recruited him Im sure it had nothing to do with making a gst team fo the idevice tournament. Kevin91 would have been recruited but he had to many haters in US. You can deny it all you want but the iphone section of US was done for the purpose of the gst.
Lets take my girls bf Vlad. He had just won 2 gsts with EP and the Mexicans yet he left them for Rufus with no hesitation. Why would he do that? Wasn’t kuji in those teams too?
1. no I think everyone sees him the same way. As the most influential/powerful person in iClassic besides the ownership.
2. I don’t doubt that he’s a good friend he comes off as a decent guy BUT he not like you. You guys are noobs he’s a graal GOD
3. I kind of agree with you on this one. Rashuuuuuuurrrrdddddd was the main reason US got a name in iClassic and why everyone was desperate to join.
4. lol I guarantee you if Rufus was to leave US the guild would be nothing.
BUT I STILL LOVE YOU BABE :love:

The player is given the option to join by the guild and its members. Without the initial decision made by the guild, the player has no window for opportunity. If Rufus would like a player in the guild, he consults the guild about it and we talk it over. He doesn't handpick guild members like you think he does. We, as a guild, are very careful about it.

Eddy had great chemistry with a few other members in US when we gave him the opportunity to join. He was left alone with no guild when we realized he would make a nice addition to the guild. Kevin would have been a good member, but while we realized he was a skilled player, he was inactive at the time of his mention, so we knew he wouldn't really be a great teammate at the time. When he started to come back and his name was mentioned again in guild chat, he was already scooped up by Talbourn and dumped in Mother.

You can ask Vlad that question. We thought he would have some great connections with guild members, seeing as he had friendly relationships with a great deal of them. Everyone will have a different view on the guild and will come to the decision of joining for different reasons. I cannot speak for someone else.

Haha, Ares didn't really "wow" that many people. Well, not too many players involved in the spar community anyway. Once US won our first GST, people really seemed to love the guild. I believe it has to do with the fact that our team was all these random new people from the foreign PC servers that have just been given access to Classic iPhone. They fought so well together, too. That team was always exciting to watch.

When Rufus is done with Graal, US will be lead by someone else. That's how he became leader in the first place. A new generation of US members will rise like the current one did in 2011. That's just the way the guild has worked since it began in the mid 2000's. I think the guild will work the same, and the players will even still keep in contact with Ruf here and there and maybe play some games with him. Its always good to keep in contact with old friends.

Well, the guild may be nothing to you when he leaves. That's something I can't control. But for our guild members, US doesn't die. ;)

I hate how sometimes you guys relate iClassic to PC Classic. Both are completely different. So when you say that one guild is "still respected", and you're referring to a guild that originated on PC Classic, and never really did s*** on iClassic.... Ehh

my guild is inactive http://spoki.tvnet.lv/upload2/articl...-Memes-3-1.jpg

I think Shannon is Ed sheeran in disguise everything she writes sounds so beautiful

Don’t need to babe I know. The same reason EP is kissing ass in graalians.
You live in delusion. It took Rashuuuuurrrrrrdddddd one day to make US famous in iClassic. Magnetic was good too but rashuuurrrdddd just dominated. All these idevice tryhards were so desperate to fit in with them that’s why people wanted to join US.
Only time will prove Im right. I won’t be playing then but Im sure you will still be around so I will remember to come back in a couple years.

And the other 2 points I didn’t feel like replying cause youre just going to deny what I say.

US got more "famous" on iClassic than it did on PC lol.

Pretty sure the attraction to US didn't really have anything to do with Ares, Prado, or any single individual. Probably had more to do with:

• Guild from PC Graal
• Seems exclusive
• Grew significantly when FB was released
• Leader is an adiam
• Won GSTs

Mostly the last point, because iClassic kids seem to care about it a lot. When Facebook first came to iClassic, any PC sparrers who stuck around had their nuts rode hard. I played the server for a week and went something like 800-50. Maintaining a 10:1+ record seemed easy as hell in that time. I can only imagine that winning a GST was, too. I was more involved in another game at the time and didn't stick around. The PC players who did stick around were some of the aforementioned US members, so their nuts collectively swelled in size for the community to ride upon.

In time, those players also eventually quit the server and have since been immortalized and that probably contributes a lot to the allure of them and to US. If you want to come up with a list of the best PC sparrers to ever play iClassic, they've literally all been in US.

Anyway, US was the best guild on iClassic when guilds seemed to really matter.

Goat really blows things out of proportion, and keep bringing up the same points that I disprove with facts about the guild I am actually a part of... Goat, you realize Ruf wasn't staff when Ares started sparring? He began sparring on the Facebook server, and had about a 89-92 streak (one of those :dazed:) before his first loss. Nobody really noticed that much or cared for a while because it was a server with almost less players online than a PC server, and we all just laughed because we knew nobody would really be able to beat him. It really wasn't a big deal for anybody until the guild as a whole proved worth at GST. Momento Mori was the same way.

Although, US began gaining fame on the main server as the first GST rolled around because it rocketed up to the #1 guild spar score spot with Rufus, NiTe, Squirt, Stella, Albus, Unleash, Nadine, and Juggs. That was when I was asked to join the guild after I was rejected by another guild (that is still around today). I remember that it was a pretty big deal back then as well, because the guild was fresh and people knew they were PC players on iDevices. I mean, how could a bunch of newbies easily grab the #1 spot and uphold it?

Today, I think people just see that Rufus is staff and assume the guild is awesome. Pretty dumb ideology, but that seems to be some people's way of thinking. Ruf was staff on other servers while leading the guild, and just like Crono said, this server gave US the most popularity by far. I think that says something about the community as a whole, to be honest.

I didn’t even know he was the leader of US until a month after I saw Rashhhuuuurrrddddd spar let alone if he was staff or not. I was under the impression that nite was the leader. That’s why I said rashuurrrdddd was the main reason people wanted to join in the beginning. When he started sparing in the main room the arena was packed. Everyone wanted to see who was this mysterious guy beating up on everyone.
Your points have no real value since 90% of your posts are biased. Im speaking from what I witnessed the statement ive made don’t affect me whatsoever so my posts are unbiased. Only because my details might be a lil off the overall picture is pretty accurate.
Heres another point that you will argue to the death even when you know it’s the truth. The separation of the GSTs was the reason Rufus decided to make a idevice team.
Lol you serious? You would be lucky if you could find 20 people that cared about guild spar score let alone knowing who was at the top.
Lol
They see it like magic and black n yellow. ATM I doubt theres many people that want to join because of its members. People want to join because theyre desperate to be next to Rufus.
Fixed
US has only managed to be a top spar guild at one point or another

We decided we wanted to create a team to compete in the newly separated event, since the split essentially cut our guild in half. Rufus didn't decide to start finding recruits for it, though. The guild decided on it because we wanted to fully compete in the GST.

We then followed the same process we used before to recruit members, starting from carefully taking notes on players personality, attitude, and compatibility with current guild members.

Back then lol. Nowadays you are right, nobody cares. In 2010 and 2011, guild spar scores were all guilds had to judge spar skills, and I've been in multiple guilds with tons of different people that tried to earn the highest position possible. Guilds that felt this way include (but are not limited to) Momento Mori, no clu3, Swag City, SiB, Anubis, NkA, Valiance, ShAtTeReD, i69, and I LOVE SCUBAMANIA ITS AWESOME AND I LOVE IT GO SCUBAMANIA (renamed by Xor for vulgarity :P). If you owned a guild or were a part of a guild that ever valued guild spar score, feel free to expand my list.

That's not what I hear, and I actually get PM's from people asking to join our guild lol. Maybe you want to be near Rufus? Nobody else really seems to feel that way. :rolleyes:

R3druM was sorta fun, but again, just a bunch of friends sitting around at a tower for a really long time. The members were mainly part of other guilds as well, like Breakfast Club, ETM and SiB. US proved its reign of terror, and (against how I feel) really hasn't found a reason to come back to participate as a guild much recently.

What guild is Goat in? And what guilds has he been a part of in the past? He sounds like he claims to know everything, without question.

Comment doesn't make sense to me, as it would be implying that R3druM is still relevant today? Never knew that guild, only heard people praise it because they reached 1K fort hours, which will never resonate with me. Only thing I know is Shinta became terrified of the arena once PC players rolled through and took up Graal dating full-time. I only became active in 2012 but I don't recall them winning anything or sitting on any leaderboard spots. Maybe they were some amazing spar guild before 2011? I don't know.

Accomplishments "in time" mean nothing (IMO). I don't care if you were the first player to win 100K spars. I don't care if your tower guild hit 1K hours in a week. It's impressive only because you spent the required time and were dedicated to do it, not necessarily because you are a skilled player who has proven that you're smarter or better than others at something. You could be a 1:2 sparrer that spars for 12 hours per day and beat a 2:1 sparrer who spars for 5 hours per day to 10K spar wins because you had more time available. Big deal. Anyone with the right amount of resources can realistically accomplish those things. So, if that's any of the allure to a guild or a guild's member(s) then I don't respect or care about that.

No one on iClassic would know that though. lmao

Again my details were a lil off but the bigger picture of getting iphoners for the purpose of the gst were accurate.
I started playing mid 2010 so I cant speak for the first half of the year. I didn’t hit the spar part of the game until jan 2011 and to what I remember guild sparing wasn’t really important. The only time guild spar would have people was when some admin said a guild needed a challenge. SiB and Anubis are the ones I remember that actually tried to guild spar.

I was working on the ultimate troll. Get within 100 paces of Rufus and TEA BAG the Tea man.
Only he can unite our land. (if you seen this movie you will get it) it’s a lol
Don’t get me wrong I respect him for what hes done for the server but I pride myself on not sucking up to people or being a follower. Im not like 90% of the community I can stand on my own.
R3drum was known for everything. Their leader was the best sparer until Kevin passed him. Overall most of them had good spar and pk stats. Destroyed towering when it was the hardest to get a tower. Thx to Lia they were the most popular guild ;p, they were the trend setters. Whatever Shinta did everyone else followed. Sh1t comet from US spent 2 years trying to be better than Shinta and that includes 1 year after Shinta went inactive.
But the best part about it and why I must give them credit is because they did it when it was a pretty even playing field. While US was a guild that had more than 30 years combined of experience and they had an uneven playing field to their favor. Iphone5 at least can compete with most pcs atm but when US “terrorized” (lol) graal iphone4s were not even close to be on a pc level.
None Im what you call a lone ranger. I enjoy graal more by myself. The only guild I ever helped was HK. When I started helping them was to help my friend Bart. Once I met the people I realized that I actually like most of the members because it was the first guild where people actually had a fun conversation and wasn’t full with ******s. So I helped them to 1k out of my friendship with my girl BARTHOLOMEW KUMA. She was my #2 girl.
Ive been asked to multiple guilds and the only one I felt bad about declining was Ryo’s invitation. He was the sparer that I respected the most for his behavior.
1. when guilds seemed to really matter. Are you saying that now is when guilds really matter, if not you were referring to as in the past. So that title goes to R3drum. Ask comet he was obsessed with Shinta for 2 years he will tell you. Tell him it was the days when he used to follow nite around like a lil pet.
2. let me guess you heard that from comet. Lol Rezon was a R3drum groupie she knows what Im talking about.
Woah that was a hard reply

Shinta was never really very great in my opinion. He was average. I don't think I ever lost to him more than once every three or four times I beat him. And there were always tons of people better than me. Kevin was always on top. Shinta has numbers on his profile, and that really doesn't speak to me. R3druM itself was, again, a group of friends. They all joked and behaved as a group, so it is only natural that they were "trend-setters" for other members. They had strong players to defend the towers for longer amounts of time, which worked towards the guilds success.

Keep in mind that this was the only guild at the time that wasn't composed of "perms" and "temps" and had no real allies/sub guilds. It had strong, dedicated members, and therefore had a large advantage over any other guild at the time. You may also remember the 4-digit codename guild, Anbu. That was fun as well, while it was essentially R3druM with a different name, made just for fun. It kind of died, though. I forget what my number was, too. :(


True in a way, but US came when the playing field evened out as well. We just raised the bar. Once other guilds began growing and people started getting better at fighting these players with more experience (or skills rubbed off?), US had finally found some close matches right at the end of its heavy activity streak.

I've declined pretty much every major guild that still exists today except a select one or two. The only major guild leaders that I don't recall offering me a position were Clops and Thallen. Ryo is a very respectable person, and a really nice guy! I used to talk to him all the time, and we would guild spar with some other Japanese players every Saturday morning for a good year or so. This group of sparrers eventually gathered in Yocchi's guild, Momento Mori, for GST. Most of the members are gone, though. :(

Are you saying me and my guildmates suck up to Rufus? He's a friend to us, why would we be his "followers" or suck up to him for anything? If you don't mean us, and you mean the Graalians not including US and you, I don't think anyone can speak for them except themselves.

Also, just because you aren't in a guild means that you are above 90% of the community? Do you mean that anyone who is a part of any guild lacks the ability to stand on their own?

I am sad to hear that the earlier part of iClassic's sparring community was dominated by today's most well-known Graal *********s. Kevin is a good at sparring, but I can't ever imagine Shinta being good. There's a reason he avoids sparring. He's the type to call you a booster around his circle and friends and then refuse to spar you if you ask him about it.

I refuse to respect either of them because all I ever see them do is romancing underage Graal girls, and that's a little bit disgusting to me. If you asked me to try and make sense of it, I'd say those two were good sparrers early in the game's release because of their age. They probably had the mental capacity to understand the mechanics of sparring and how to use them to their advantage, so naturally it was probably easy to beat the 12-year-old girl with iCarly wallpaper. PCs (who are naturally older) came along and the game grew older and people got better at sparring. Kevin is no longer amazing and Shinta is non-existent. I don't even like Comyt and find it incredibly difficult to take his personality seriously, but he is better than both of them.

please, he ****ed everyone up, and was always a good sport.

#RIPPrado

Who cares?why does this all matter? Lol