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Agonee 03-04-2017 08:21 PM

Bring back the competition
 
Can we get back 5k hats or any thing like that, I'm tired too see noobs getting cocky over hitting 1k hours even tho they still had to truce half of the guilds, this game been so dry, everyone is waiting for the NGS but lately I really lost hope in it & don't actually think it'll come out, give us something to do and stop making this game too noobfriendly.

MisterFace 03-04-2017 09:35 PM

NGS will fix this hopefully.

Colin 03-04-2017 09:40 PM

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Posted by MisterFace (Post 769566)
NGS will fix this hopefully.

Not with AA's guild roster

Competition doesn't come from rewards, it comes from players, if you tired of them getting 'cocky' go take their towers or PK them all day it's pretty simple even for AA clan...

Agonee 03-04-2017 09:45 PM

F**kboy^

Thallen 03-05-2017 03:18 AM

I don't think any rewards are going to make towering competitive (at least past the first week or something), because I honestly don't think it was competitive for about the last two years it existed… Even in that last month, it felt like more of a bartering contest to ally with other guilds than it did a competition.

The problem that always existed in towering is that it comes with an "everybody wins" endgame… You can't really lose, and if you just continue to do it eventually you're going to win. That's why I continuously suggested that towering be seasonal, and only the top 3–5 guilds at the end of the season be rewarded. That's why the GST and seasonal leaderboards are usually pretty competitive, you can't talk your way into winning. I really hated that part of towering.

It would make people tower a lot more though. I do agree that looking forward to the NGS is becoming depressing, but when/if it does happen then I think it would fix the vast majority of issues of issues like this.

SolFessler 03-05-2017 03:33 PM

the NGS is probably gonna kill military guilds hahahah


tbh i think 1k hats is still a good idea, but 1k hats should be given out based statistically on the top players in the guild. some sort of stat(s?) generated by towering for individual players, and then its averaged out to form something like the NBAs PER.

you know, also we should add basketball hoops and basketball furniture to the game, to add some variant to soccer only.

MisterFace 03-06-2017 05:19 AM

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Posted by SolFessler (Post 769720)
the NGS is probably gonna kill military guilds hahahah


tbh i think 1k hats is still a good idea, but 1k hats should be given out based statistically on the top players in the guild. some sort of stat(s?) generated by towering for individual players, and then its averaged out to form something like the NBAs PER.

you know, also we should add basketball hoops and basketball furniture to the game, to add some variant to soccer only.

They deserve to be killed.

Frankenstein 03-06-2017 10:18 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 769569)
Competition doesn't come from rewards, it comes from players, if you tired of them getting 'cocky' go take their towers or PK them all day it's pretty simple even for AA clan...

There reaches a point when players need to be incentivized to continue to do something. It keeps things fresh and in the players mind they're playing for something that's worth their time.

Do a GST without hats and belts and it will die.

G Fatal 03-06-2017 10:43 PM

Who's 7th alltime guildscore now?

0.5 03-06-2017 11:55 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 769638)
I don't think any rewards are going to make towering competitive (at least past the first week or something), because I honestly don't think it was competitive for about the last two years it existed… Even in that last month, it felt like more of a bartering contest to ally with other guilds than it did a competition.

The problem that always existed in towering is that it comes with an "everybody wins" endgame… You can't really lose, and if you just continue to do it eventually you're going to win. That's why I continuously suggested that towering be seasonal, and only the top 3–5 guilds at the end of the season be rewarded. That's why the GST and seasonal leaderboards are usually pretty competitive, you can't talk your way into winning. I really hated that part of towering.

It would make people tower a lot more though. I do agree that looking forward to the NGS is becoming depressing, but when/if it does happen then I think it would fix the vast majority of issues of issues like this.


Towering "seasonal" no smfh

I'm almost 100% they will be adding something for sparers in towering anyway

Reason you didn't think it was compeitive because you were always getting overpowered groups of people together when you got op groups there is not much compeition expect other op groups if you honestly wanted compeition you could of made it compeitive

Like for an example : when I did a 1k in your guild there was not much compeition at all but when I joined another guild and attacked your guild there was real compeition isnt that amazing how fast it can change

Definiton of op : look at CD and CD sub your prepared for the new one same old same old ...

Edit to say: I'm not just calling you out Or is it meant to be an attack I'm just saying there other ways to make it compeitive instead of the same old same old

Either way the NGS was way over hyped

Sad it had to go this direction

GotenGraal 03-07-2017 04:39 PM

Maybe if we get better prizes for towering it will b more competitive. now im thinking a juggle or a epic pogo

Shadd 03-07-2017 06:03 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 770235)
Maybe if we get better prizes for towering it will b more competitive. now im thinking a juggle or a epic pogo

Hats and Mounts are better in my opinion.

Agonee 03-07-2017 06:57 PM

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Posted by Shadd (Post 770252)
Hats and Mounts are better in my opinion.

You have to be on some serious drugs
EPIC POGO>Hats and Mounts

Fulgore 03-08-2017 03:45 PM

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Posted by Frankenstein (Post 769980)
There reaches a point when players need to be incentivized to continue to do something. It keeps things fresh and in the players mind they're playing for something that's worth their time.

Do a GST without hats and belts and it will die.

I agree with the general message to an extent, but I think GST is an exception rn. A lot of the hats in the past 2-3 years were unwearable, yet the same groups of people never stopped entering. That event specifically is less about the cosmetics and more about pride if anything.

Frankenstein 03-09-2017 12:58 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 770524)
I agree with the general message to an extent, but I think GST is an exception rn. A lot of the hats in the past 2-3 years were unwearable, yet the same groups of people never stopped entering. That event specifically is less about the cosmetics and more about pride if anything.


I disagree. Statue, belt, hat. Even if the hat is ****ty it's still a symbol of victory. Those are three strong incentives to the Graal world.

Fulgore 03-09-2017 03:27 AM

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Posted by Frankenstein (Post 770660)
I disagree. Statue, belt, hat. Even if the hat is ****ty it's still a symbol of victory. Those are three strong incentives to the Graal world.

Yeah possibly to random noobs who have 0 chance of getting it. Most everyone who has a chance doesn't really care all that much unless it's a rare decent hat. Some might care about the belt, but most just want the recognition.

Warhawk 03-09-2017 09:33 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 770682)
Some might care about the belt, but most just want the recognition.

I want a sandbox

TeK 03-10-2017 07:28 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 769983)
Who's 7th alltime guildscore now?

VG.

Basi 03-12-2017 09:48 PM

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Posted by Warhawk (Post 770830)
I want a sandbox

we had one in 2011.
we also had a better tileset in 2011
http://i.imgur.com/gIcUNWT.png

Red 03-13-2017 01:22 AM

reward me with new guild system that not **** thx

Nanner 03-13-2017 01:58 AM

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Posted by Basi (Post 771537)
we had one in 2011.
we also had a better tileset in 2011
http://i.imgur.com/gIcUNWT.png

Looks like playdoh

Zetectic 03-13-2017 03:32 AM

Just a question: Was Beg For Mercy reset? Lol
I thought they were after 5k or 10k, but I saw just them at 998h?
Allies and everything looks the same?

Agonee 03-13-2017 09:03 AM

Pretty sure that a few of their guilds got reset, their idea was to get 5 guilds to 1k and get the main guild to 5k, I think they ended up getting 4 guilds to 1k

WaFFL3Cake 03-14-2017 10:06 PM

If you want to be competitive, dominate towers now instead of waiting for some rewards.

0.5 03-15-2017 10:12 PM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 771906)
If you want to be competitive, dominate towers now instead of waiting for some rewards.

No :sarcastic:

If you want to tell me what to do be my Mother

instead of waiting for some child.

Agonee 03-15-2017 10:57 PM

When there guilds taking all towers with 10 members you know that this game is broken, towers all are empty and it's no fun at all to take towers from noobs that give up after 2minutes, it's just going back to the same and it'll end up that everyone goes afk while holding the tower.

Since we've 5 towers and most people can't wait for a system I think the best would be to add a 2K hat, everyone would start towering again and it'd stay kinda balanced, maybe even remove allies & forbid truces? / set in a rule that you hours will stop counting after you've been holding the same one for more than 8hours?

0.5 03-16-2017 12:24 AM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 772055)
When there guilds taking all towers with 10 members you know that this game is broken, towers all are empty and it's no fun at all to take towers from noobs that give up after 2minutes, it's just going back to the same and it'll end up that everyone goes afk while holding the tower.

Since we've 5 towers and most people can't wait for a system I think the best would be to add a 2K hat, everyone would start towering again and it'd stay kinda balanced, maybe even remove allies & forbid truces? / set in a rule that you hours will stop counting after you've been holding the same one for more than 8hours?


Agree this would be a great idea I mean this is petty how long they making us wait when they could of left it intill it was actually almost done, or could of left the 5k or done something like this 2k hours, at this point all i see is more and more of my friends who like to tower leaving


Heres a petition

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/462/260/974/

EP 03-17-2017 11:48 PM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 771906)
If you want to be competitive, dominate towers now instead of waiting for some rewards.

The current tower scene is pooled with players who barely understand the pvp mechanics of graal. I love stomping noobs as much as the next guy but it gets old fast when you always win. I thought maybe they should just close 3 towers everyday and cycle through which ones are open. It wont bring players but it would increase activity since guilds are now funneled to 2 towers instead of 5. Ultimately the NGS would help bring back a lot of the competition and activity but we dont know how far in the works it is or if it will be released anytime soon all we can do is believe in our savior FP4

Nanner 03-18-2017 04:45 AM

To be honest you guys could easily get 2 guilds with max players to face each other off in towering until the update or til whenever. I mean yeah there's no incentive to tower because 1k hats are removed but that just goes to show that all you scrubs really do only tower for the hat. And also spar has died but that's on you guys. Sparring has been the same for years and many players used to always spar. You guys are the ones who made it dead. All you guys are online but chose not to spar and instead talk/troll or afk.

WaFFL3Cake 03-27-2017 07:47 PM

Stomp some noobs and make them pay gralats for the tower back. That's how you make perfect use of your situation

RyanB 03-27-2017 07:59 PM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 774227)
Stomp some noobs and make them pay gralats for the tower back. That's how you make perfect use of your situation

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