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deadowl 02-17-2015 03:32 AM

Is Big City Racist?
 
Native Americans did not trade in pelts except to Europeans. Pelts are what they had, and traded with. Not what they traded for.

The PBS series: We Shall Remain

After the Mayflower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYAdf-oGc8c

Tecumseh's Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPXEoQskYA

The Trail of Tears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8o0heHXQF8

Geronimo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79NaHAscIA

Wounded Knee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DHFjB-A5Ho

MrSimons 02-17-2015 03:34 AM

That is not in a any way racism.

Colin 02-17-2015 03:41 AM

what

MattKan 02-17-2015 03:47 AM

Perhaps it is historically inaccurate, but Classic does exist in an alternate universe and does not attempt to represent any real nations or groups of people.

deadowl 02-17-2015 03:52 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 541906)
Perhaps it is historically inaccurate, but Classic does exist in an alternate universe and does not attempt to represent any real nations or groups of people.

Okay, so lets make a fried chicken restaurant and some plantations run by black NPCs while their white NPC counterparts call them lazy. It exists in another universe so it doesn't count.

Colin 02-17-2015 04:10 AM

what

Dusty 02-17-2015 04:19 AM

I put a lot of research into Big City to make it as respectful as possible. Big City was loosely based off of the Klamath Tribes, though some things had to be adapted to better fit the gameplay.

http://www.craterlakeinstitute.com/o...c/complete.htm

The story of the Big City volcano was also loosely based off of the mythology of the Klamath tribe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llao

However, the pelts had little to do with trading and more to do with wanting to incooperate shape-shifting, or Skin-walkers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker

Though it's worth mentioning Big City had to be completed in just a month, and I didn't have time to do college-level research. I tried my best to be respectful of the culture and history of Native American's, contrary to what was expected for the content(stereotypical Western's Indian's and such).

deadowl 02-17-2015 04:48 AM

Nice info Dusty.

Link of GT 02-17-2015 06:35 AM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 541903)
Native Americans did not trade in pelts except to Europeans. Pelts are what they had, and traded with. Not what they traded for.

The PBS series: We Shall Remain

After the Mayflower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYAdf-oGc8c

Tecumseh's Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPXEoQskYA

The Trail of Tears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8o0heHXQF8

Geronimo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79NaHAscIA

Wounded Knee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DHFjB-A5Ho

Hey, we Canadians traded pelts to the French during the fur trade!

Multipas* 02-17-2015 07:07 AM

The only thing a native was ever to a colonist is a feathers, animal skin clothes ,brown skin, and a sense of being connected to nature. I appreciate you want to be respectful but all those people were murdered raped and put into prisons where there children were brainwashed into jesus. Representing them in graal online has always irked me, especially when graal wants to represent the more spiritual side of a culture that is has and is currently being raped

Seņor Albonio 02-17-2015 07:09 AM

ffs people it's a game. It was never Dusty's intention to trigger you guys.

Multipas* 02-17-2015 07:10 AM

For sure

Brooks 02-17-2015 09:03 AM

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Posted by Multipas* (Post 541939)
The only thing a native was ever to a colonist is a feathers, animal skin clothes ,brown skin, and a sense of being connected to nature. I appreciate you want to be respectful but all those people were murdered raped and put into prisons where there children were brainwashed into jesus. Representing them in graal online has always irked me, especially when graal wants to represent the more spiritual side of a culture that is has and is currently being raped

This has happen to every race and bringing Jesus into the conversation is irrelevant.Attachment 17206

Crono 02-17-2015 10:08 AM

We should make it realistic by slaughtering them for having inferior cultures.

Or not because that would actually be racist.

Ivy 02-17-2015 10:10 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 541974)
We should make it realistic by slaughtering them for having inferior cultures.

Or not because that would actually be racist.

LOL


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