Is Big City Racist?

deadowl · 02-17-2015

Native Americans did not trade in pelts except to Europeans. Pelts are what they had, and traded with. Not what they traded for.

The PBS series: We Shall Remain

After the Mayflower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYAdf-oGc8c

Tecumseh's Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPXEoQskYA

The Trail of Tears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8o0heHXQF8

Geronimo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79NaHAscIA

Wounded Knee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DHFjB-A5Ho

MrSimons · 02-17-2015

That is not in a any way racism.

Colin · 02-17-2015

what

MattKan · 02-17-2015

Perhaps it is historically inaccurate, but Classic does exist in an alternate universe and does not attempt to represent any real nations or groups of people.

deadowl · 02-17-2015

Posted by MattKan

Perhaps it is historically inaccurate, but Classic does exist in an alternate universe and does not attempt to represent any real nations or groups of people.

Okay, so lets make a fried chicken restaurant and some plantations run by black NPCs while their white NPC counterparts call them lazy. It exists in another universe so it doesn't count.

Colin · 02-17-2015

what

Dusty · 02-17-2015

I put a lot of research into Big City to make it as respectful as possible. Big City was loosely based off of the Klamath Tribes, though some things had to be adapted to better fit the gameplay.

http://www.craterlakeinstitute.com/o...c/complete.htm

The story of the Big City volcano was also loosely based off of the mythology of the Klamath tribe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llao

However, the pelts had little to do with trading and more to do with wanting to incooperate shape-shifting, or Skin-walkers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker

Though it's worth mentioning Big City had to be completed in just a month, and I didn't have time to do college-level research. I tried my best to be respectful of the culture and history of Native American's, contrary to what was expected for the content(stereotypical Western's Indian's and such).

deadowl · 02-17-2015

Nice info Dusty.

Link of GT · 02-17-2015

Posted by deadowl

Native Americans did not trade in pelts except to Europeans. Pelts are what they had, and traded with. Not what they traded for.

The PBS series: We Shall Remain

After the Mayflower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYAdf-oGc8c

Tecumseh's Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPXEoQskYA

The Trail of Tears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8o0heHXQF8

Geronimo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79NaHAscIA

Wounded Knee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DHFjB-A5Ho

Hey, we Canadians traded pelts to the French during the fur trade!

Multipas* · 02-17-2015

The only thing a native was ever to a colonist is a feathers, animal skin clothes ,brown skin, and a sense of being connected to nature. I appreciate you want to be respectful but all those people were murdered raped and put into prisons where there children were brainwashed into jesus. Representing them in graal online has always irked me, especially when graal wants to represent the more spiritual side of a culture that is has and is currently being raped

Señor Albonio · 02-17-2015

ffs people it's a game. It was never Dusty's intention to trigger you guys.

Multipas* · 02-17-2015

For sure

Brooks · 02-17-2015

Posted by Multipas*

The only thing a native was ever to a colonist is a feathers, animal skin clothes ,brown skin, and a sense of being connected to nature. I appreciate you want to be respectful but all those people were murdered raped and put into prisons where there children were brainwashed into jesus. Representing them in graal online has always irked me, especially when graal wants to represent the more spiritual side of a culture that is has and is currently being raped

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Crono · 02-17-2015

We should make it realistic by slaughtering them for having inferior cultures.

Or not because that would actually be racist.

Ivy · 02-17-2015

Posted by Crono

We should make it realistic by slaughtering them for having inferior cultures.

Or not because that would actually be racist.

LOL

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deadowl Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 783	Is Big City Racist? Native Americans did not trade in pelts except to Europeans. Pelts are what they had, and traded with. Not what they traded for. The PBS series: We Shall Remain After the Mayflower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYAdf-oGc8c Tecumseh's Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPXEoQskYA The Trail of Tears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8o0heHXQF8 Geronimo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79NaHAscIA Wounded Knee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DHFjB-A5Ho

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MrSimons :) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: no. Posts: 10,309	That is not in a any way racism.

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Colin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,204	what

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MattKan the KattMan Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,204	Perhaps it is historically inaccurate, but Classic does exist in an alternate universe and does not attempt to represent any real nations or groups of people.

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	I put a lot of research into Big City to make it as respectful as possible. Big City was loosely based off of the Klamath Tribes, though some things had to be adapted to better fit the gameplay. http://www.craterlakeinstitute.com/o...c/complete.htm The story of the Big City volcano was also loosely based off of the mythology of the Klamath tribe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llao However, the pelts had little to do with trading and more to do with wanting to incooperate shape-shifting, or Skin-walkers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker Though it's worth mentioning Big City had to be completed in just a month, and I didn't have time to do college-level research. I tried my best to be respectful of the culture and history of Native American's, contrary to what was expected for the content(stereotypical Western's Indian's and such).

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Multipas* iowstcseewratb Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Idk Posts: 658	The only thing a native was ever to a colonist is a feathers, animal skin clothes ,brown skin, and a sense of being connected to nature. I appreciate you want to be respectful but all those people were murdered raped and put into prisons where there children were brainwashed into jesus. Representing them in graal online has always irked me, especially when graal wants to represent the more spiritual side of a culture that is has and is currently being raped

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Señor Albonio Amdin Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,290	ffs people it's a game. It was never Dusty's intention to trigger you guys.

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Crono :pluffy: Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,946	We should make it realistic by slaughtering them for having inferior cultures. Or not because that would actually be racist.