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Demrow 02-20-2015 10:40 PM

Idev and mixed GST
 
Can you do both? Someone said they'll disqualify you if you do which makes no sense.

Zetectic 02-20-2015 10:44 PM

Specific more?
A guild entering both tournament is legal.
A person entering both tournament isn't legal.
maybe becuz of unfair advantages?

twilit 02-20-2015 10:46 PM

A guild can participate in both tournaments. A single player cannot participate in both teams though. Its scripted to allow players to only be on one team.

or do you mean using a second account be in both tourneys? ya, you can probably get DQ'd for that.

Zetectic 02-20-2015 11:03 PM

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Posted by twilit (Post 542820)
do you mean using a second account be in both tourneys? ya, you can probably get DQ'd for that.

i was never clear about this rule. is it legal to participate with ur sibling?

Demrow 02-21-2015 12:56 AM

What unfair advantage do you have? If you play both PC and Idevice you should be able to participate in both. Also if you do have a sibling in the same house on the same Internet how is that distinguished.

Zetectic 02-21-2015 01:03 AM

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Posted by Demrow (Post 542854)
What unfair advantage do you have? If you play both PC and Idevice you should be able to participate in both. Also if you do have a sibling in the same house on the same Internet how is that distinguished.

Not sure how to put this in nicely written sentence, but it's like u are getting two chances. if u lose idev gst, u can still play mixed gst. if u win both rofl gg.

i dont even know its a rule or not. few gsts ago i had a friend doing a different gst with his sibling and didn't get DQ.

There's a script that prevents one account to join two GSTs.

If you are using a secondary account. IDK like Twilit said you will get disqualified, but that's only if people figured it out and report you like 50x. And pretty positive that IP detection is disabled just for players that has siblings.

twilit 02-21-2015 05:13 AM

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Posted by Demrow (Post 542854)
What unfair advantage do you have? If you play both PC and Idevice you should be able to participate in both.

The "mixed" tourney is exactly what thats for...

Zetectic 02-21-2015 05:26 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 542884)
The "mixed" tourney is exactly what thats for...

He meant like he can multitask and spar on both PC and iDev during the GST and willing to do both since there's a gap time in GST.

Colin 02-21-2015 05:27 AM

They run both at the same time, what happens when you are summoned to play two matches at the same time?

If your work around for this is by using an alt account then that is even dumber than the idea its self, not like you'll win either of them anyways.

Zetectic 02-21-2015 05:35 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 542889)
They run both at the same time, what happens when you are summoned to play two matches at the same time?

If your work around for this is by using an alt account then that is even dumber than the idea its self, not like you'll win either of them anyways.

that's most likely a future issue, he first wants to know if it's legal or not and want to know the reason for it.

if i was doing both and was summoned to play at same time, I'd log idev team and they can summon sub. would do the gst for mixed.

he can do it at his own risk. demrow is pretty darn good pc sparrer out there, but i think he's trying something new on idev and willing to try it out. but that's just my thoughts.

Comyt 02-21-2015 04:43 PM

if a player is ever allowed to enter into both tournaments, then every single idevice team is going to enter into mixed as well. every single mixed team cannot enter into idevice as some pcs don't own one or absolutely suck on idevice, which is why they are using a pc. this is not balanced and it's basically like having two gsts in one day for an idevice. also take into consideration that the idevice side takes 64 teams and the mixed side takes 32. if big idevice teams enter into the mixed side, they could edge out the mixed teams that have a chance at victory and would be able to compete if idevices couldn't slide in.

Zetectic 02-21-2015 06:34 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 542936)
if a player is ever allowed to enter into both tournaments, then every single idevice team is going to enter into mixed as well.

I agree the very first part of your sentence.

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Posted by Comyt (Post 542936)
every single mixed team cannot enter into idevice as some pcs don't own one or absolutely suck on idevice, which is why they are using a pc.

Don't generalize everything through one perspective. It's not cause pc users absolutely suck at idev, they are just more used to pc.
I want to say to you, why the hell idevice players do not use pc when they can? yet they cry about pc users. Don't generalize everything like this. Not every individuals are like that.

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Posted by Comyt (Post 542936)
if big idevice teams enter into the mixed side, they could edge out the mixed teams that have a chance at victory and would be able to compete if idevices couldn't slide in.

yes, also agree with this one. they could edge out some teams.

Demrow 02-21-2015 07:57 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 542936)
if a player is ever allowed to enter into both tournaments, then every single idevice team is going to enter into mixed as well. every single mixed team cannot enter into idevice as some pcs don't own one or absolutely suck on idevice, which is why they are using a pc. this is not balanced and it's basically like having two gsts in one day for an idevice. also take into consideration that the idevice side takes 64 teams and the mixed side takes 32. if big idevice teams enter into the mixed side, they could edge out the mixed teams that have a chance at victory and would be able to compete if idevices couldn't slide in.

Yeah I'm not talking about entering on one account, that obviously wouldn't make much sense. I have an Idevice account and a PC account that I would enter. It shouldn't be illegal if it is, the only downside is that you might have conflicting matches where you then have a sub to take your place. I don't see an advantage and it allows hybrid players to do both.

Winter 02-21-2015 08:39 PM

The tournament is single-elimination. Allowing players to have two chances at a prize while others cannot do the same is an unfair advantage. Sadly, players who like to use both iDevice and PC still have to abide by the rule in order to maintain a level playing field.

IP addresses can be noted and used to identify someone doing this, but further inspection must take place in order to account for two people on separate devices simply in the same household. In this way, siblings playing in different tournaments is suspicious, but legal.

This is a rule because it disallows abuse of the system. Abuse still can occur in different ways (and it does, quite often..) but ideally, everyone should follow the rule. Anyone who doesn't should be reported to a GP as the tournament should be kept fair.

Zetectic 02-21-2015 08:56 PM

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Posted by Winter (Post 542960)
The tournament is single-elimination. Allowing players to have two chances at a prize while others cannot do the same is an unfair advantage. Sadly, players who like to use both iDevice and PC still have to abide by the rule in order to maintain a level playing field.

IP addresses can be noted and used to identify someone doing this, but further inspection must take place in order to account for two people on separate devices simply in the same household. In this way, siblings playing in different tournaments is suspicious, but legal.

This is a rule because it disallows abuse of the system. Abuse still can occur in different ways (and it does, quite often..) but ideally, everyone should follow the rule. Anyone who doesn't should be reported to a GP as the tournament should be kept fair.

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