hmmm i can limit it just to IP?  

Posted by snk

hmmm i can limit it just to IP?

Remove it entirely x.x no one wants it  

no one wants it, its a bad way to stop boosters, use Rufus's system and condense all the sparring to only count in a main spar room, so its easier to monitor and so people cant boost,

you know, its better to ask players than just choose one silly and unwanted plan from one player, that has now self proclaimed themself "spar manager"  

It takes too long to get spar wins... now with this new time system it's impossible get some spar wins T-T  

Posted by Higbey

no one wants it, its a bad way to stop boosters, use Rufus's system and condense all the sparring to only count in a main spar room, so its easier to monitor and so people cant boost,

you know, its better to ask players than just choose one silly and unwanted plan from one player, that has now self proclaimed themself "spar manager"

hey higbey you ass  

Posted by callimuc

We do listen to players suggestions. So maybe you should stop talking random crap because not every idea you are making is getting added. A lot of updates we had have been suggested by players. As long as you can explain them and it's really a good idea we might add it at some time. Making your 5th thread about a trading system which has been cleared a lot of times won't get added.
TL;DR: you are wrong.

Hearing one idea and automatically adding it without any additional say from other players isnt "listening to player suggestions." If anything, it's showing favoritism. Why should his idea be automatically added without any kind of vote, or opinion process, but everyone else's ideas take weeks to be implemented, and that's if you guys consider them "good enough." The fact of the matter is, you can't add something that no one wants, and expect your game to be successful....you guys really need some business classes or something. These are the kind of mistakes that shutdown servers. They cause players to realize that they aren't really being listened to, that you guys don't really care about their opinions, and that they're wastiing their time thinking that you do. So they quit, and eventually you're left with something a lot like PC Era. They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. So what makes think iEra won't eventually end up like PC Era, if you can't even take everyone's opinions into account. We might as well have a trading system, because our server is gonna end up in the same place as PC anyways.  

Posted by snk

p.s higbey you're an ass

 

Fire the cannons!  

Posted by Rok

Hearing one idea and automatically adding it without any additional say from other players isnt "listening to player suggestions." If anything, it's showing favoritism. Why should his idea be automatically added without any kind of vote, or opinion process, but everyone else's ideas take weeks to be implemented, and that's if you guys consider them "good enough." The fact of the matter is, you can't add something that no one wants, and expect your game to be successful....you guys really need some business classes or something. These are the kind of mistakes that shutdown servers. They cause players to realize that they aren't really being listened to, that you guys don't really care about their opinions, and that they're wastiing their time thinking that you do. So they quit, and eventually you're left with something a lot like PC Era. They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. So what makes think iEra won't eventually end up like PC Era, if you can't even take everyone's opinions into account. We might as well have a trading system, because our server is gonna end up in the same place as PC anyways.

Just because there is an update on Era doesn't mean we are going to keep it. We're testing how this 'limit' system works- doesn't mean we're keeping it.

I'll probably limit it so that people with the same IP don't get recognised as kills/deaths.  

well that only solves people using the same ip, thats not gonna take out all the boosters.  

Posted by snk

I'll probably limit it so that people with the same IP don't get recognised as kills/deaths.

Great idea.
Just need to find a way to stop the people that have there friends help them boost.  

Posted by snk

I'll probably limit it so that people with the same IP don't get recognised as kills/deaths.

Better...nice idea..  

I can make it so they can't boost kills if the player they previously sparred is in the list of the previous 3. That requires 4 devices- if someone can be bothered to go through this for a spar rating they deserve it... haha  

Posted by Rok

Hearing one idea and automatically adding it without any additional say from other players isnt "listening to player suggestions." If anything, it's showing favoritism. Why should his idea be automatically added without any kind of vote, or opinion process, but everyone else's ideas take weeks to be implemented, and that's if you guys consider them "good enough." The fact of the matter is, you can't add something that no one wants, and expect your game to be successful....you guys really need some business classes or something. These are the kind of mistakes that shutdown servers. They cause players to realize that they aren't really being listened to, that you guys don't really care about their opinions, and that they're wastiing their time thinking that you do. So they quit, and eventually you're left with something a lot like PC Era. They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. So what makes think iEra won't eventually end up like PC Era, if you can't even take everyone's opinions into account. We might as well have a trading system, because our server is gonna end up in the same place as PC anyways.

At that point of time the person who added that seemd like he/she liked the idea. Simply because one person added it, it does not mean that every staff member is involved. And no we do not need anything like business classes. If you got any business problems contact either Stefan or Unixmad since it's their business and not ours. And again it's not favoritism. Like I said whoever added it must have had a higher rank and must have liked the idea. This can also be only temporary and be changed at any time after seeing the players reactions and testing stuff. Yes within this thread we did realize that players didn't like it but just because we didn't remove it again right away it doesn't mean it will never get removed.
And why other ideas are taking weeks until they are added is because either they should not be released yet or there are other reasons. But there is always a good reason why they won't be added immediately. Maybe it's because we are volunteers which are not working 24/7.

Posted by Rok

They cause players to realize that they aren't really being listened to, that you guys don't really care about their opinions, and that they're wastiing their time thinking that you do.

Go to LoL and ask if they will add tanks like in BF3. Let's see what their response will be. Not every idea is good and spams of one idea won't help aswell since players think they have to make feedbacks, posts, ... of ideas which have already been suggested or denied.

Posted by Rok

So what makes think iEra won't eventually end up like PC Era, if you can't even take everyone's opinions into account. We might as well have a trading system, because our server is gonna end up in the same place as PC anyways.

It's not up to us with the trading system. We would have probably already added it when we would be allowed to do so.  

Posted by callimuc

Go to LoL and ask if they will add tanks like in BF3. Let's see what their response will be. Not every idea is good and spams of one idea won't help aswell since players think they have to make feedbacks, posts, ... of ideas which have already been suggested or denied.

That's not what I'm talking about at all. I realise that a lot of the ideas you hear are crap. What I'm talking about is the fact that snk isn't even planning on removing it, even though every other player, besides one or two, want it removed. I'd call that "not listening."

I'm not pointing fingers at all staff, only the ones involved. I realize many of you are trying to do your best for the players.