One thing. Almost all of the places described in the bible are real in these times, there are countless churches for christianity, so you pretty much HAVE to think thats it's real, and another thing, think about it. almost EVERYWHERE there are people that believe in God so doesnt it just make sense?  

Posted by Engel

I'm an Atheist- but prove he doesn't exist.

Darwinism, the big bang, pangea,heliocentricity

Posted by 123tepig

One thing. Almost all of the places described in the bible are real in these times, there are countless churches for christianity, so you pretty much HAVE to think thats it's real, and another thing, think about it. almost EVERYWHERE there are people that believe in God so doesnt it just make sense?

This post confuses me.  

Posted by 123tepig

One thing. Almost all of the places described in the bible are real in these times, there are countless churches for christianity, so you pretty much HAVE to think thats it's real, and another thing, think about it. almost EVERYWHERE there are people that believe in God so doesnt it just make sense?

People believe in god -> he exists? That's your logic? Most of the americans are stupid enough to believe the goverment, does it mean they don't lie?  

Posted by callimuc

People believe in god -> he exists? That's your logic? Most of the americans are stupid enough to believe the goverment, does it mean they don't lie?

So your first example is America -_-" Why does everyone from every foreign country do that

Posted by 123tepig

One thing. Almost all of the places described in the bible are real in these times, there are countless churches for christianity, so you pretty much HAVE to think thats it's real, and another thing, think about it. almost EVERYWHERE there are people that believe in God so doesnt it just make sense?

Just because it was written in historical moments doesn't mean the extreme parts like the tower of babel are legitimate. I have books that do, "What if" stories on famous points in history. Oh and you want to know why Christianity is everywhere? Roman empire -> Spanish empire -> British empire -> USA. Every place they took over has Christianity. It actually has a lot in relation to language when it comes to how it spreads and mixes with cultures.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

So your first example is America -_-" Why does everyone from every foreign country do that

Because in foreign countries you hear more going on in america than you do (censoreship and all that crap). Friends from my mum who are living in america told us that they never heard of some stuff in the news as other countries did after we have been asking them about that. Probably it's the same as with germany and other countries. I mostly just hear whats going on in america rather than the other countries  

Posted by callimuc

Because in foreign countries you hear more going on in america than you do (censoreship and all that crap). Friends from my mum who are living in america told us that they never heard of some stuff in the news as other countries did after we have been asking them about that. Probably it's the same as with germany and other countries. I mostly just hear whats going on in america rather than the other countries

There's something called freedom of the press here, and Fox News always wants to undermine the government. They report everything from obamas weekly drone attacks to the strangest of conspiracy theories and they are the most popular news network here. I'm pretty sure there isn't widespread censorship. And even if there is censorship somehow, there is also a little thing called the internet.  

Posted by callimuc

Because in foreign countries you hear more going on in america than you do (censoreship and all that crap). Friends from my mum who are living in america told us that they never heard of some stuff in the news as other countries did after we have been asking them about that. Probably it's the same as with germany and other countries. I mostly just hear whats going on in america rather than the other countries

Eurorope is fairly censored too. With the uk shutting down pirating and now making a 5000£ for any person selling an pegi 18 rated game to a minor?  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

There's something called freedom of the press here, and Fox News always wants to undermine the government. They report everything from obamas weekly drone attacks to the strangest of conspiracy theories and they are the most popular news network here. I'm pretty sure there isn't widespread censorship. And even if there is censorship somehow, there is also a little thing called the internet.

Here i also your something called freedom of the press. Still there is lots of stuff censored. And not everyone checks the news in the internet and if, than mostly the news of their local newspaper/television channel. But let's not get off topic since it was just an example

Posted by spades of feare

Eurorope is fairly censored too. With the uk shutting down pirating and now making a 5000£ for any person selling an pegi 18 rated game to a minor?

Dunno, never heard of it  

Graalians isn't the place for this. Post this in some religious forum to troll them xD  

I personally consider God (not attached to any religion) to be the entity that started the process that lead to the creation of everything. If God didn't exist then I shouldn't either. However there is no way I can prove it did/does or didn't/doesn't exist.  

I kind of think the same as fp4. There must have been something like a god which created something but yet I wonder who created god than. I just don't agree with the "If God didn't exist then I shouldn't either" part of him ;)

Posted by fp4

I personally consider God (not attached to any religion) to be the entity that started the process that lead to the creation of everything. If God didn't exist then I shouldn't either. However there is no way I can prove it did/does or didn't/doesn't exist.

 

Posted by callimuc

I just don't agree with the "If God didn't exist then I shouldn't either" part

How come?  

Posted by fp4

How come?

For me it sounds like: "There is no god? Get rid of me I shouldn't exist". If there wouldn't be a god, than I wouldn't think like that. It actually wouldn't change anything on myself or how I think about my life  

Posted by fp4

I personally consider God (not attached to any religion) to be the entity that started the process that lead to the creation of everything. If God didn't exist then I shouldn't either. However there is no way I can prove it did/does or didn't/doesn't exist.

That very well may be true, but why should we jump to conclusions and believe something just because we need an explanation? We are simply not there yet scientifically to prove how it all started but that doesn't mean it's not true. You could say the same that it's not true that there isn't a god but evolution bears substantial evidence that has us on the path to understanding.

Posted by Mr.$imons

I believe because I don't wanna take a risk with being wrong.

That is probably the worst reason for having faith and a cowardly one at that.  

Meh, in my opinion (opinion alert) the idea of a god creating the universe is a cop out. That means the god must be omnipresent, so thus the creation of the universe is still not explained. I think there was never a beginning to the universe, though. As time itself is malleable (Satellites have to be adjusted to account for different time rates as they go very fast) that means that it must have been a product of the big bang since spacetime is one entity, not seperate. So as you get closer and closer to the point where the universe condenses into a singularity, time literally slows further and further down to the point where its infinitely slow and there is no beginning. As a singularity is infinitely small and infinitely massive. That is theoretically happening right now in the center of black holes across the universe since they are thought to have singularities in their center, although its in reverse. But thats just how I see it.