Posted by Ace_Ciprioni

If you don't like Z room why go there? I don't like justin bieber, do I go to his concerts? no... because I don't like him, but he exists and nothing I can do to stop that. Learn to accept those things in life guys, every one is entitled to their own opinion but there always going to be things that we don't like.

We don't go there; what we don't like is the constant whoring that takes place there and the fact that it is counter productive.  

Posted by NCJohn

We don't go there; what we don't like is the constant whoring that takes place there and the fact that it is counter productive.

 

Posted by NCJohn

We don't go there; what we don't like is the constant whoring that takes place there and the fact that it is counter productive.

NCJohn for admin 2013

You know what is bull**** about the place overall? If any oldbie remembers when Dairy Hut came out, it was player owned by a gang. They shut it down because it was unfair to everyone that was not in the gang. I was in Dairy Hut at that time, hell, the Co-Owner and even I understood that it was majorly unfair so I didn't bitch when it was canceled. Then they go around and bring about the same drama. I don't believe in player owned anything simple because it will NOT be handled fairly, no matter what. Most/all players are not mature enough to reasonably do that sort of thing.

Also the whole "just ignore it if you don't like it" thing made me laugh. Ya we should do that with cancer and AIDs and World Hunger and anything else we don't like. Thanks for the life lesson.  

He already was

But if he wasnt already a admin. Then i would agree  

we all would  

If Z-Room must remained owned, it should be staff only.
Plain and simple.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

NCJohn for admin 2013

You know what is bull**** about the place overall? If any oldbie remembers when Dairy Hut came out, it was player owned by a gang. They shut it down because it was unfair to everyone that was not in the gang. I was in Dairy Hut at that time, hell, the Co-Owner and even I understood that it was majorly unfair so I didn't bitch when it was canceled. Then they go around and bring about the same drama. I don't believe in player owned anything simple because it will NOT be handled fairly, no matter what. Most/all players are not mature enough to reasonably do that sort of thing.

Also the whole "just ignore it if you don't like it" thing made me laugh. Ya we should do that with cancer and AIDs and World Hunger and anything else we don't like. Thanks for the life lesson.

Yeah, I was in Dairy Hut as well and the funny thing is we had less powers in the level in Dairy Hut then those kids have in Z-Room. Alls we could do was go behind the counter.

Posted by 99%

If Z-Room must remained owned, it should be staff only.
Plain and simple.

It shouldn't be owned at all. It should just be a level for all the role playing kids to throw parties in and chill; not for staff to host useless parties when there are other things to be done.  

Posted by Jeni<3

Ugh how did you know that at this very moment I was reading this thread and thinking THANK GOD I am not mentioned and it is not bashing me...then boom you come along and shatter that dream >.< gee thanks GIT! LOL

lol whenever someone says something about you get all offended, and the world doesn't revolve around you btw  

Posted by Jester Lapse

NCJohn for admin 2013

You know what is bull**** about the place overall? If any oldbie remembers when Dairy Hut came out, it was player owned by a gang. They shut it down because it was unfair to everyone that was not in the gang. I was in Dairy Hut at that time, hell, the Co-Owner and even I understood that it was majorly unfair so I didn't bitch when it was canceled. Then they go around and bring about the same drama. I don't believe in player owned anything simple because it will NOT be handled fairly, no matter what. Most/all players are not mature enough to reasonably do that sort of thing.

Also the whole "just ignore it if you don't like it" thing made me laugh. Ya we should do that with cancer and AIDs and World Hunger and anything else we don't like. Thanks for the life lesson.

the different is aids and cancer kill people, is it going to kill you that a gang owns a club? sounds like you're the one having the issues with the "fame" .

as for what NCJohn said yes it's VERY counter productive I agree completely with your statement, and most of the parties admins host are after they are burnt out on working for hours and hours at making new content, or at least that is my side of the story. I put an insane amount of hours into developing for the server, I feel I'm entitled to a break and some music from time to time right?  

Posted by Ace_Ciprioni

the different is aids and cancer kill people, is it going to kill you that a gang owns a club? sounds like you're the one having the issues with the "fame" .

as for what NCJohn said yes it's VERY counter productive I agree completely with your statement, and most of the parties admins host are after they are burnt out on working for hours and hours at making new content, or at least that is my side of the story. I put an insane amount of hours into developing for the server, I feel I'm entitled to a break and some music from time to time right?

Ok I can see staff that actually do their work taking the time to enjoy it for a bit, but why allow a gang full of attention seekers who don't contribute to the server run it? Gangs shouldn't be allowed to control levels unless they actively play a part in developing it. If the Z-Room is going to be kept, just make it like the Revolution and Nexus from iClassic where only staff can control it.  

It was an extreme counter example to your "if you don't like it, ignore it" mentality. Imagine if that was how people thought lol. There would still be slaves, hell there would probably be no America. Major point is, the place is a favoritism gang, and last time I checked, gangs don't get their own place until having basing 4000 hours?  

Posted by Ace_Ciprioni

I feel I'm entitled to a break and some music from time to time right?

You know you can do this is the real world as well :-)

In my opinion Z-Room from what I have seen is just a bunch of attention hoggers.  

Posted by Ace_Ciprioni

the different is aids and cancer kill people, is it going to kill you that a gang owns a club? sounds like you're the one having the issues with the "fame" .

as for what NCJohn said yes it's VERY counter productive I agree completely with your statement, and most of the parties admins host are after they are burnt out on working for hours and hours at making new content, or at least that is my side of the story. I put an insane amount of hours into developing for the server, I feel I'm entitled to a break and some music from time to time right?

You're missing the point completely.
Allowing players to staff the Z-Room just creates rifts in the playerbase.
People start thinking they're better than others, become stuck up and ignorant.
We already have a huge gap between newbie players and so called "pros".
Last thing needed is a group of 25 peacocks strutting around, regarding everyone else as filth.

Just from 15 minutes in Z-Room you can tell that place is full of player discrimination.
There's the Z-Room "staff" prancing around, decreeing these redundant rules on other players who were just trying to enjoy the club environment, because "I work here, so what I say goes", or "My club, My rules".

Z-Room was founded by Ziro, a notorious power abuser, who got fired not too long after.
Now it just lives on as a legacy of the wrong intentions put into it's making.
It's a place full of favoritism, abuse of authority, and blatant arrogance.

You yourself Ace, often complain about immature kids, and go completely ballistic when people ask you for a doll.
Why can't you see the immaturity from Z-Room staff, going around, acting big and bad?

Z-Room should have been shut down when Ziro was fired.
Or at least, never passed into the hands of players.  

Posted by 99%

You're missing the point completely.
Allowing players to staff the Z-Room just creates rifts in the playerbase.
People start thinking they're better than others, become stuck up and ignorant.
We already have a huge gap between newbie players and so called "pros".
Last thing needed is a group of 25 peacocks strutting around, regarding everyone else as filth.

Just from 15 minutes in Z-Room you can tell that place is full of player discrimination.
There's the Z-Room "staff" prancing around, decreeing these redundant rules on other players who were just trying to enjoy the club environment, because "I work here, so what I say goes", or "My club, My rules".

Z-Room was founded by Ziro, a notorious power abuser, who got fired not too long after.
Now it just lives on as a legacy of the wrong intentions put into it's making.
It's a place full of favoritism, abuse of authority, and blatant arrogance.

You yourself Ace, often complain about immature kids, and go completely ballistic when people ask you for a doll.
Why can't you see the immaturity from Z-Room staff, going around, acting big and bad?

Z-Room should have been shut down when Ziro was fired.
Or at least, never passed into the hands of players.

 

Posted by Ace_Ciprioni

If you don't like Z room why go there? I don't like justin bieber, do I go to his concerts? no... because I don't like him, but he exists and nothing I can do to stop that. Learn to accept those things in life guys, every one is entitled to their own opinion but there always going to be things that we don't like.

You're using the YouTube fanboy logic, "If you don't like it, don't watch it." But it's public, so we're allowed to form our own opinions about it.