Posted by Tyler

You don't understand what I'm saying. I did spar Sarah and it was pretty delayed, but I did not directly call her a lagger. What I'm saying is sparring long distance just doesn't work out for the better. I had a friend in Ch4rM long ago from Australia and when he sparred it was just terrible connection between us. Not to pick on Yui, but during spars she warps all over the place. I'm sure like you said it's the same on her end for us, but it really shouldn't be like that at all. Sparring should be smooth easy registered movements and hits. When people are warping all over the place it's hardly sparring at all. It just happens too often when I actually do spar.

What's your point though? Do you think that sparrers who live in Japan enjoy delaying? Do you think it's fun to have to constantly spam your sword defensively in hopes that you'll predict the movement of your opponent, rather than spar in a fluid and responsive environment where skill is more of a factor?

You can't do anything about it and Graal can't do anything about it. They have as much of a right to spar as you or I do. It's not their fault that they are trying to enjoy the game despite the limitation put against them. I had to use satellite internet for a year and absolutely hated sparring with it because the delay was ridiculous.

So in a nutshell, you're complaining and saying that you don't like sparring against them. Me either, but I'm not on here crying about it like you guys. I understand it and I accept it, and I just don't spar them or I try to figure out the best possible way to spar them and try to enjoy it.

I spar like absolute **** against Yui. I'm like 2-50 against Sarah. Ask either of them how many times I've cried and complained to them after losing to them, and then ask yourself why you do.  

Posted by Thallen

What's your point though? Do you think that sparrers who live in Japan enjoy delaying? Do you think it's fun to have to constantly spam your sword defensively in hopes that you'll predict the movement of your opponent, rather than spar in a fluid and responsive environment where skill is more of a factor?

You can't do anything about it and Graal can't do anything about it. They have as much of a right to spar as you or I do. It's not their fault that they are trying to enjoy the game despite the limitation put against them. I had to use satellite internet for a year and absolutely hated sparring with it because the delay was ridiculous.

So in a nutshell, you're complaining and saying that you don't like sparring against them. Me either, but I'm not on here crying about it like you guys. I understand it and I accept it, and I just don't spar them or I try to figure out the best possible way to spar them and try to enjoy it.

I spar like absolute **** against Yui. I'm like 2-50 against Sarah. Ask either of them how many times I've cried and complained to them after losing to them, and then ask yourself why you do.

My point is that's just why I don't spar anymore. Not trying to state anything else. It's not their fault and I know that. If you're okay with dealing with the connection and can continue sparring then good. I'm just one of those people who can't.  

Posted by Tyler

My point is that's just why I don't spar anymore. Not trying to state anything else. It's not their fault and I know that. If you're okay with dealing with the connection and can continue sparring then good. I'm just one of those people who can't.

I'm not really trying to single you out because you're a part of a large group of people that have this problem. I don't like delay either. It's just that you and whoever else agrees not to spar because you can't handle delay shouldn't be parading around and crying that "sparring is dead." If you don't want to spar then just don't. Don't try to convince other people not to spar because you can't handle that international players play this game and beat you at it.

That's not to you, that's more to the OP of this thread and anyone who agrees with the narrow-minded **** that has polluted this thread for 20 pages or whatever. Foreign players are always going to spar and none of you can control that.  

People claim that the spar community is dying, however I honestly think that it's growing and better than it was 1-2 years ago. Just because your ideal vision of the spar community is gone, doesn't mean that it's dead.  

Posted by Rezon

People claim that the spar community is dying, however I honestly think that it's growing and better than it was 1-2 years ago. Just because your ideal vision of the spar community is gone, doesn't mean that it's dead.

It all comes full circle to "the scrub": http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playi...in-part-1.html (favorite link in the world)

"Sparring against a bad sparrer in a public room where anyone is freely able to queue is boosting."

he is bound up by an intricate construct of fictitious rules that prevent him from ever truly competing

"Sparrers who unwillingly delay, wall, or spam are not real sparrers."

the scrub is only willing to play to win within his own made-up mental set of rules

They try to impose these hilarious rules to curb "being a good sparrer" more towards the mold they conveniently fit. If you're on a streak and some awful sparrer repeatedly queues, they expect you to unqueue or something. You're a "booster" because you are enjoying yourself and sparring against anyone and everyone who queues against you. It's just hilarious to me to watch people sit on the sides of the spar, call people "boosters" for sparring against someone who queues against them, yet not queue themselves.

It's like they haven't figured out yet that no one cares about their opinions, who they respect, or how they view anyone within the community. That's why I actually respect an "IDGAF" sparrer like Sarah. Yup, she delays because she's in France. Yeah, she spars defensively and "walls" because she enjoys it. What are you going to do to stop her from enjoying herself? Cry about it? Call her names because you aren't having fun? Go for it. I can tell you right now that it'll never bother her.  

You do realize Thallen that my internet is over 80% faster than Australians every day internet users. Japan's delay is caused by the amount of people using the same internet in the same time. Having that many people in a small country will obviously cause delay for their internet system. Back to you Thallen, no offence, you lag. I saw you, I sparred you, I beat you, you're laggy. I versed other people, they didn't lag, so that means, it's not from me, it's from you.

Sarah lags because she uses 3G to win her spars (she told me she used 3G) and apparently her internet is worse than her 3G  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

You do realize Thallen that my internet is over 80% faster than Australians every day internet users. Japan's delay is caused by the amount of people using the same internet in the same time. Having that many people in a small country will obviously cause delay for their internet system. Back to you Thallen, no offence, you lag. I saw you, I sparred you, I beat you, you're laggy. I versed other people, they didn't lag, so that means, it's not from me, it's from you.

Sarah lags because she uses 3G to win her spars (she told me she used 3G) and apparently her internet is worse than her 3G

http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

You HAVE To be trolling. Nobody can be this ******ed. Please, tell me you're trolling.  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

You do realize Thallen that my internet is over 80% faster than Australians every day internet users.

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Japan's delay is caused by the amount of people using the same internet in the same time. Having that many people in a small country will obviously cause delay for their internet system.

laughing IRL
oh boy

Posted by Rezon

You HAVE To be trolling. Nobody can be this ******ed. Please, tell me you're trolling.

don't you dare give him an exit strategy  

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I obviously live in a wealthy area where technology prospers  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

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I obviously live in a wealthy area where technology prospers

You're still going to delay though.... what do you not get?  

Cool, you have a ping of 10ms to a server <50 miles from your location. Now ping the iClassic server then get back to me.  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2886254077.png (Unsupported image host)

I obviously live in a wealthy area where technology prospers

You can be in a wealthy area for all we care, but that still doesn't change the fact that you delay.  

Oh but the thing is guys, I don't get complaints about my delay, because I don't delay! The complaints I get are from people WHO I called laggers/delayers. It's like an automatic response. As seen here, I called thallen a "lagger", he called me a delayer-- do you see? Too bad I'm the only one telling the truth of how he lags.

Unlike Sarah, ABOOD, Mood, and Jack, they get bombarded with people calling them lagger/delayer (even nooblets call them lagger/delayer) they even get so abused that they have no name so they don't become known as the 'delayer or iClassic'  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Oh but the thing is guys, I don't get complaints about my delay, because I don't delay! The complaints I get are from people WHO I called laggers/delayers. It's like an automatic response. As seen here, I called thallen a "lagger", he called me a delayer-- do you see? Too bad I'm the only one telling the truth of how he lags.

Nobody complains about you delaying because they know you'll just start a ****storm with anyone that goes against your little "wealthy" internet.  

Posted by Striken

Nobody complains about you delaying because they know you'll just start a ****storm with anyone that goes against your little "wealthy" internet.

Wealthy area* I don't start a shirtstorm? What are you talking about I Pk and Guild spar sometimes, I hate sparring. I only spar to test my abilities against good sparrers, unlike other people who spar noobs and get a 40 win streak(Thallen) before someone better then him comes and ends the streak(Comyt)