Player Shop - 2

Vivid · 10-14-2013

Good idea, they have stuff like that in era that's pretty much all I play.
However, I think they should have different rooms with different stuuf in it like heads and bodies and stuff like that.

maybe if they had a special area where you could've get codes and stuff too. Anyone of those would satisfy me.
What would be the name I was thinking 'costomization shop' for starters.

ufoburan · 10-14-2013

Posted by Samie

you don't really get what im saying. not every player have their own shop? a show with player. made. items. and how wouldn't this be fair? its not like they are requried to have a shop.. if they don't make any items to submit, then thats not really unfair.. and there are apps that people have to make graphis on their ipod and ipads, i know nanner has it

The point was that not everybody are good at gfx and/or don't know how to do it. You are correct that they wouldn't be required to have a shop. I fail to see how not "requiring" them to have shops makes it fair? Yah its great and fair if you make gralats off items you made in your shop and get rich meanwhile everybody else that cant make items stays poor and has to take a year to save up to buy stuff with out purchasing gralat packs. The only way it would be fair is if they could get items that they would be able to sell to.

Samie · 10-14-2013

Posted by ufoburan

The point was that not everybody are good at gfx and/or don't know how to do it. You are correct that they wouldn't be required to have a shop. I fail to see how not "requiring" them to have shops makes it fair? Yah its great and fair if you make gralats off items you made in your shop and get rich meanwhile everybody else that cant make items stays poor and has to take a year to save up to buy stuff with out purchasing gralat packs. The only way it would be fair is if they could get items that they would be able to sell to.

well in that case, spar isnt fair becuase not everyone is good at it.
and if they stay poor, thats not anyone's fault but their's. they can farm, do the pryat quest, etc. and it wouldn't be 'your' shop.. it could be a shop in say MoD, that accepts items.. a shop in York has player-made hats, and thats perfectly fair..

Livid · 10-15-2013

Posted by Samie

well in that case, spar isnt fair becuase not everyone is good at it.
and if they stay poor, thats not anyone's fault but their's. they can farm, do the pryat quest, etc. and it wouldn't be 'your' shop.. it could be a shop in say MoD, that accepts items.. a shop in York has player-made hats, and thats perfectly fair..

She's been breaking all of you guys this whole time, thats some real opinion and I like it

ufoburan · 10-15-2013

Posted by Samie

well in that case, spar isnt fair becuase not everyone is good at it.
and if they stay poor, thats not anyone's fault but their's. they can farm, do the pryat quest, etc. and it wouldn't be 'your' shop.. it could be a shop in say MoD, that accepts items.. a shop in York has player-made hats, and thats perfectly fair..

You made it sound like it would be "your" shop to me. The way your saying it now sounds a little better. And Sparring isn't something that effects everybody There are people that get on and only spar like Thallen and there are people like me who don't give a big steamy S about sparring who don't spar. But Money or Gralats are something everyone has and effects everyone. Imo I don't think it would be fair for everyone if people could get money for creating items. There would need to be away to fairly distribute gralats amoung the players.

Like creating some kind of system like the Easter egg hunt from earlier this year. where you can find,sell and maybe even trade items. For instance they could add an Alchemist Npc where you find materials for stuff like powder and he gives you a set amount for each bag of powder you turn in and after you turn in like 5 bags he makes bombs for you. Or wood that you could turn in and eventually get arrows. Iron,leather,feathers. that would turn into a hat or new outfit to wear. something like that. You would make gralats,and eventually be able to get harder to get items.

Samie · 10-15-2013

Posted by ufoburan

You made it sound like it would be "your" shop to me. The way your saying it now sounds a little better. And Sparring isn't something that effects everybody There are people that get on and only spar like Thallen and there are people like me who don't give a big steamy S about sparring who don't spar. But Money or Gralats are something everyone has and effects everyone. Imo I don't think it would be fair for everyone if people could get money for creating items. There would need to be away to fairly distribute gralats amoung the players.

still don't get what your saying.. It's perfecly fair.. just because someone isn't able to make something doesnt make it unfair.. that's how it is now, seen the shop at York? Sevral player made hats. So I've heard, if your hat is approved and decided to be sold, you recive the hat for free, and the amount it is sold for.. that part isnt anything new

Dino · 10-16-2013

Posted by Samie

still don't get what your saying.. It's perfecly fair.. just because someone isn't able to make something doesnt make it unfair.. that's how it is now, seen the shop at York? Sevral player made hats. So I've heard, if your hat is approved and decided to be sold, you recive the hat for free, and the amount it is sold for.. that part isnt anything new

HAI SAMIE JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING

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ufoburan · 10-24-2013

Posted by Samie

still don't get what your saying.. It's perfecly fair.. just because someone isn't able to make something doesnt make it unfair.. that's how it is now, seen the shop at York? Sevral player made hats. So I've heard, if your hat is approved and decided to be sold, you recive the hat for free, and the amount it is sold for.. that part isnt anything new

Again that is something you did not say before. I agree that if you create something and its added to the game you should get it for free,and I'm ok with the player getting a payment for the hat or item upon approval. But you did not state that was the case. You make it seem like they would get at least a portion of the gralats everytime the item is bought not just a one time payment of what the hat sells for.

That would be completely reasonable however I would think they could give more than just what the hat would sell for as they are going to be selling it over and over again and potentailly making the company a profit off something some one created. I would say something like 10-20k which would be comparable to a regular priced upload of a customized item.

If what you said is true then I still don't see the need to have player owned shops in player houses. If your not going to gain gralats from each hat sold then there is no point. There are all ready shops with hats you can buy and rooms could always be added to those.

If your worried about getting recognition for creating something then ask dusty to add the player nickname to the item so when any player clicks on it and the image pops up with the creators name underneath of it.

ChocoNotes · 10-25-2013

Posted by ufoburan

You make it seem like they would get at least a portion of the gralats everytime the item is bought not just a one time payment of what the hat sells for

Did you even read the OP?

Posted by Samie

the artist who made this would get the item, and the amount it's sold for (i.e. say i made a rug. i sent this rug in and they decided they will sell it. it will be sold for 2500 gralats, so i would recive the rug free, and 2500 gralats [only gralats once]) [/SIZE]

eevee2 · 11-01-2013

Posted by Samie

okay so i saw a thread and dropped my idea there, so i thought i mines well make a thread for it instead of just saying there.
the idea would be a shop with player made items. as you may think, well, they have graphic artist for that, this is a stupid idea.. but, the staff all tend to have their own 'style' and their own 'ideas' for all their items. the shop can have player-made bombs, horses, hats, furniture, etc. i think this would be cool so you can have items that don't look the same in genral pallete, shading, etc. this could be a good way for some aspiring graphics artist to make a little gralats too. now, a problem could be spaming their item to get it sold, well, maybe there can be a system like uploads, but diffrent, it could cost a little gralats to upload (small so people won't want to waste money, but big enough so people still won't spam) graphic staff could go through these, being they would have the best judgement in their own kinda section. items can be priced among quality, and the artist who made this would get the item, and the amount it's sold for (i.e. say i made a rug. i sent this rug in and they decided they will sell it. it will be sold for 2500 gralats, so i would recive the rug free, and 2500 gralats [only gralats once]) i just think this would be so cool, and help get aspiring artist's names out there. ik its flawed, but im tired and not that bright.. okay that was a handful ty for bearing through

Total agreement with that idea... BUT you need to be able to put head too! So people will be able to buy my heads without having to upload them ^_^

Samie · 11-01-2013

Posted by eevee2

Total agreement with that idea... BUT you need to be able to put head too! So people will be able to buy my heads without having to upload them ^_^

tbh, i personnaly wouldnt do that, but who am I too talk :0
I think heads are suppose to be so people can buy gralats packs, and heads are worth more then items like bombs and stuff. And if they did do heads, there'd be tons of people uploading random heads, that may just be minor edits. And if someone stole someone's head, they might upload it to the shop, just so people can have it, and revenge, etc (say maybe there not well known and no one would know who's head it is (ie, guild leaders that someone has a 'beef' with, or maybe a spar rivial))

Sicx · 11-10-2013

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Zazzi* · 11-10-2013

Posted by Samie

tbh, i personnaly wouldnt do that, but who am I too talk :0
I think heads are suppose to be so people can buy gralats packs, and heads are worth more then items like bombs and stuff. And if they did do heads, there'd be tons of people uploading random heads, that may just be minor edits. And if someone stole someone's head, they might upload it to the shop, just so people can have it, and revenge, etc (say maybe there not well known and no one would know who's head it is (ie, guild leaders that someone has a 'beef' with, or maybe a spar rivial))

You know they used to sell heads in Classic right? For the minor edits and stuff there are ways to check if they did redit it and so they would just disapprove.

ufoburan · 11-11-2013

I have noticed that people seem to be sensative over the uploads. I don't upload much at all,but the few times I have I always get random pm's from people complaining that I stole that head or body. I do think its good that we have the option to custom upload stuff into the game. I get the feeling they wouldn't want to add more admins just to create heads/bodies to sell in game,And it doesn't seem like they would have enough gfx staff currently to do that with right now.

While I still don't agree with people running their own shops in their houses in game. I don't see anything stopping them from idling in Graal city and advertising there services in creating a custom upload for any random passerby for the price of a Itunes gift card or for a free farmer for a few hours. I know this would open up scams,however it's not like there is an officially licensed gfx artist shop in game where you can contract some one for there gfx uploading services so you know your not getting scammed. Maybe that's something they could see about adding to the game.

I do agree with how you said if they create something and it gets used in game or even added to the depot for upload they should get it for free and a lump some of gralats for creating and giving the admins permission to use the created item. Imo they should probably get no less than twice what it would be sold for.

ufoburan · 11-19-2013

Okay time to contradict myself. I still don't like player owned shops in their houses however I do have an idea for this. Very similar to what I just suggested in another thread what if you have or buy a hat stand and you could place (only) hats that you have purchased on them and select an option to put it for sell then a cloud with a gralat would appear above it.

The stipulation being that the hat would still sell for its original purchased price,but you would only get a small portion of the profits. This would help to limit scams/multi account get rich quick schemes. I'm not at all sure where to set the bar for amount received from sold hats probably 10-30%. This would help players earn a little extra gralats and clear space by getting rid of seldom used no longer wanted hats. This could also sort of be away for players to give out a rare no longer available hat purchased at Nexus 3 years ago for a prize by making it available for purchase similar to Rufus's house maze.

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Vivid Hey Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: FL, USA Posts: 1,547	:) Good idea, they have stuff like that in era that's pretty much all I play. However, I think they should have different rooms with different stuuf in it like heads and bodies and stuff like that. maybe if they had a special area where you could've get codes and stuff too. Anyone of those would satisfy me. What would be the name I was thinking 'costomization shop' for starters.

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ufoburan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,682	I have noticed that people seem to be sensative over the uploads. I don't upload much at all,but the few times I have I always get random pm's from people complaining that I stole that head or body. I do think its good that we have the option to custom upload stuff into the game. I get the feeling they wouldn't want to add more admins just to create heads/bodies to sell in game,And it doesn't seem like they would have enough gfx staff currently to do that with right now. While I still don't agree with people running their own shops in their houses in game. I don't see anything stopping them from idling in Graal city and advertising there services in creating a custom upload for any random passerby for the price of a Itunes gift card or for a free farmer for a few hours. I know this would open up scams,however it's not like there is an officially licensed gfx artist shop in game where you can contract some one for there gfx uploading services so you know your not getting scammed. Maybe that's something they could see about adding to the game. I do agree with how you said if they create something and it gets used in game or even added to the depot for upload they should get it for free and a lump some of gralats for creating and giving the admins permission to use the created item. Imo they should probably get no less than twice what it would be sold for.

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ufoburan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,682	Okay time to contradict myself. I still don't like player owned shops in their houses however I do have an idea for this. Very similar to what I just suggested in another thread what if you have or buy a hat stand and you could place (only) hats that you have purchased on them and select an option to put it for sell then a cloud with a gralat would appear above it. The stipulation being that the hat would still sell for its original purchased price,but you would only get a small portion of the profits. This would help to limit scams/multi account get rich quick schemes. I'm not at all sure where to set the bar for amount received from sold hats probably 10-30%. This would help players earn a little extra gralats and clear space by getting rid of seldom used no longer wanted hats. This could also sort of be away for players to give out a rare no longer available hat purchased at Nexus 3 years ago for a prize by making it available for purchase similar to Rufus's house maze.