Venturing Away from Graal

kenthefruit · 08-15-2014

What I mean is, why hasn't anyone tried/successfully made a game similar to Graal (MMO RPG), but so much better? I mean, especially with all the talented people in the community I'm not entirely sure why. I know Graal could be so much better than it currently is, but change just doesn't seem to be the picture for Unixmad. So rather than enforce change, why not make it and run it better then they are?

Dusty · 08-15-2014

Making a game is hard. Making an online game is harder.

kenthefruit · 08-15-2014

Posted by Dusty

Making a game is hard. Making an online game is harder.

I'm sure it's very difficult, but I think if a team of dedicated people got together it could get done though trial and error. SOMEONE should try at the very least. I would but I have not a clue on how to script.

Downsider · 08-15-2014

I dunno. I'd do it if I had a few good artists. I always wanted to and spent a lot of time working on engines and SDK's but never had the support from artists and ****.

kenthefruit · 08-15-2014

Posted by Downsider

I dunno. I'd do it if I had a few good artists. I always wanted to and spent a lot of time working on engines and SDK's but never had the support from artists and ****.

And I've always wanted to make art for a developing MMO/RPG game that would offer more than Graal does lmao.

Motrox · 08-15-2014

Many have left graal to work on there own projects and games. There are too many to name. But I can't think any who has finished an mmorpg similar to graal.

Eroz · 08-15-2014

Posted by Downsider

I dunno. I'd do it if I had a few good artists. I always wanted to and spent a lot of time working on engines and SDK's but never had the support from artists and ****.

The engine that you were working on seemed good. It was bad news when you abandoned it.

GOAT · 08-15-2014

Posted by kenovo

What I mean is, why hasn't anyone tried/successfully made a game similar to Graal (MMO RPG), but so much better? I mean, especially with all the talented people in the community I'm not entirely sure why. I know Graal could be so much better than it currently is, but change just doesn't seem to be the picture for Unixmad. So rather than enforce change, why not make it and run it better then they are?

some people are --v

Posted by Cadavre

Me and Jatz are working on our own game engine that'll be fairly similar to Graal and will support conversion of the graal file formats.

I think the major reason was the lack of success of pc graal. I dont think people had the motivation to invest the time required to do something like that.

Now that the app world has shown people that simple games like graal could make a decent profit, they should have more motivation to venture out on their own.

Look at fallchild, he used his pixel skills to contribute to the app he created with his friend. idk how much they have made out of it but im sure its more than he got out of graal(not counting stuff he might have sold to players)

5hift · 08-15-2014

Unixmad discretely got rid of those who tried to branch out to make their own, hit MMOs.

Watch out people, he's got dangerous contacts that are out to get you.

MrSimons · 08-16-2014

I just want a good looking top-down MMO that doesnt have ugly graphics or is total crap, besides Graal.

Platinum · 08-16-2014

I suppose it might not be too difficult, then again I don't have experience in developing. There must be people who would like to make their own mmo but don't know where to start, and don't have anyone to help them with it.

Rockstar · 08-16-2014

It would be hard if you don't have much experience

Cookie Xanadu · 08-16-2014

From what I understand, either Israfel or ghost_pirate (I think? He has a statue in front of the event house on Era, not iEra) and one (or more) of their buddies are working on an engine that's very similar to Graal but it uses a more known language and isn't complete **** with its limitations!

Downsider · 08-16-2014

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

From what I understand, either Israfel or ghost_pirate (I think? He has a statue in front of the event house on Era, not iEra) and one (or more) of their buddies are working on an engine that's very similar to Graal but it uses a more known language and isn't complete **** with its limitations!

u mean cadavre??

NicoX · 08-16-2014

Alot of people do not want to work for free. You have to invest alot of money into this, which is not even sure you get back later.
I think with a good 50.000 USD you could get something really nice together

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kenthefruit 🍇🍏🍋🍊🍒 Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,330	Venturing Away from Graal What I mean is, why hasn't anyone tried/successfully made a game similar to Graal (MMO RPG), but so much better? I mean, especially with all the talented people in the community I'm not entirely sure why. I know Graal could be so much better than it currently is, but change just doesn't seem to be the picture for Unixmad. So rather than enforce change, why not make it and run it better then they are?

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	Making a game is hard. Making an online game is harder.

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Downsider Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 347	I dunno. I'd do it if I had a few good artists. I always wanted to and spent a lot of time working on engines and SDK's but never had the support from artists and ****.

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Motrox : Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 818	Many have left graal to work on there own projects and games. There are too many to name. But I can't think any who has finished an mmorpg similar to graal.

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5hift ✔️TURBO✔️VERIFIED✔️ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Larunda Relay Posts: 6,481	Unixmad discretely got rid of those who tried to branch out to make their own, hit MMOs. Watch out people, he's got dangerous contacts that are out to get you.

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MrSimons :) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: no. Posts: 10,309	I just want a good looking top-down MMO that doesnt have ugly graphics or is total crap, besides Graal.

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Platinum Back from the dead? Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 2,533	I suppose it might not be too difficult, then again I don't have experience in developing. There must be people who would like to make their own mmo but don't know where to start, and don't have anyone to help them with it.

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Rockstar Gani Admin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 1,904	It would be hard if you don't have much experience

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Cookie Xanadu Uguu~ Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Canada, NS Posts: 1,046	From what I understand, either Israfel or ghost_pirate (I think? He has a statue in front of the event house on Era, not iEra) and one (or more) of their buddies are working on an engine that's very similar to Graal but it uses a more known language and isn't complete **** with its limitations!

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NicoX Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Frankfurt/Main - Germany Posts: 202	Alot of people do not want to work for free. You have to invest alot of money into this, which is not even sure you get back later. I think with a good 50.000 USD you could get something really nice together